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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @orion said:

    There is the probability that it gets worse with Sanders...but I'm looking forward to finding out.  ( we're an underdog to the Jets...... )

    I should have gone this weekend to visit my family in North Jersey, my cousin is a huge Browns fan (from NE Ohio originally) and we could have scored two tickets to this game in East Rutherford for next to nothing. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    I should have gone this weekend to visit my family in North Jersey, my cousin is a huge Browns fan

    My cousin is a huge Browns fan also.  From the days of Jim Brown.  And we've always lived in New England.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      These critiques look oddly familiar.

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        These critiques look oddly familiar.

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        @tiamat63 said:

        These critiques look oddly familiar.

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        When you're losing...anything you do is deemed wrong.  

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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          Interesting. A lot of fans are wondering if Rees is going to be fired like Ken Dorsey was.

          Stepanski is boring, and doesn't have the instincts to fool defenses. We'll see if the offense production gets upgraded. It will be tough with the offensive line not being up to par. NOBODY is talking about trick plays. It's a matter of play design, and play calling to keep defenses guessing.

          Tillman will be back, apparently.

          https://larrybrownsports.com/football/fans-said-same-thing-kevin-stefanski-browns-play-calling/725387

          Fans all said the same thing about Browns coach giving up play-calling

          Meanwhile, oh, look, a film breakdown!

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            More sonic pollution to wake the neighbors up!

            Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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              Interesting. A lot of fans are wondering if Rees is going to be fired like Ken Dorsey was.

              Stepanski is boring, and doesn't have the instincts to fool defenses. We'll see if the offense production gets upgraded. It will be tough with the offensive line not being up to par. NOBODY is talking about trick plays. It's a matter of play design, and play calling to keep defenses guessing.

              Tillman will be back, apparently.

              https://larrybrownsports.com/football/fans-said-same-thing-kevin-stefanski-browns-play-calling/725387

              Fans all said the same thing about Browns coach giving up play-calling

              Meanwhile, oh, look, a film breakdown!

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              @calfoxwc said:

              Interesting. A lot of fans are wondering if Rees is going to be fired like Ken Dorsey was.

              Stepanski is boring, and doesn't have the instincts to fool defenses. We'll see if the offense production gets upgraded. It will be tough with the offensive line not being up to par. NOBODY is talking about trick plays. It's a matter of play design, and play calling to keep defenses guessing.

              Tillman will be back, apparently.

              https://larrybrownsports.com/football/fans-said-same-thing-kevin-stefanski-browns-play-calling/725387

              Fans all said the same thing about Browns coach giving up play-calling

              Meanwhile, oh, look, a film breakdown!

              I'm done with Stefanski TBH. His offensive design schemes are outdated and unimaginative in today's NFL. Looks like he was propped up by AVP and Callahan as offense dropped off a cliff with their exits. 

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                @calfoxwc said:

                Interesting. A lot of fans are wondering if Rees is going to be fired like Ken Dorsey was.

                Stepanski is boring, and doesn't have the instincts to fool defenses. We'll see if the offense production gets upgraded. It will be tough with the offensive line not being up to par. NOBODY is talking about trick plays. It's a matter of play design, and play calling to keep defenses guessing.

                Tillman will be back, apparently.

                https://larrybrownsports.com/football/fans-said-same-thing-kevin-stefanski-browns-play-calling/725387

                Fans all said the same thing about Browns coach giving up play-calling

                Meanwhile, oh, look, a film breakdown!

                I'm done with Stefanski TBH. His offensive design schemes are outdated and unimaginative in today's NFL. Looks like he was propped up by AVP and Callahan as offense dropped off a cliff with their exits. 

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                @mddawg said:

                I'm done with Stefanski TBH. His offensive design schemes are outdated and unimaginative in today's NFL. Looks like he was propped up by AVP and Callahan as offense dropped off a cliff with their exits. 

                back in hs, I was a stat guy with a friend for football. It was as close to the game I could get. Every play, we'd write down the formation, the play, player numbers, result of the play. It got so I could predict what they were going to run by how they lined up, and the stances of the offense - qb/rb/ot.

                  Stepanski's offense seems like that. But it is worse - the drafting for offense.

                Look at the first round draft picks for offense.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks

                2020 - Jedrick Wills, OT, blah.

                2018 - Baker Mayfield, but should have drafted my pick, Josh Allen

                2017 - David Njoku, who took years to be a dependable ball catcher. duh.

                2016 - Cory Coleman, midget wr..... 

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                Corey Coleman will forever remain one of the Browns biggest mistakes

                The Giants released Corey Coleman, providing proof once and for all what a mistake his selection was for the Cleveland Browns.
                 
                2015 - Cameron Irving, C. Injury prone throughout his career, floated from team to team, position to position. nope.
                2014 - Johnny Manziel. dammit, how stupid a pick that was.
                2012 - Brandon Weedon. another dismal mistake.
                2012 - Trent Richardson, considered one of the biggest draft busts in history
                2019 - Alex Mack, C, a star
                 
                Hardly a way to build a dynamic offense. Then there is the play calling. Your offensive line is struggling, getting overrun by the Pats defense and you call a flea-flicker? etc etc.
                 
                What is really hopeless, is the Browns offensive line, which is not helped by stepanski's inability to adapt to what is going on in a game....
                 
                https://thelistwire.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/10/30/pro-football-focus-ranking-nfl-offensive-line-week-9-pff/86979072007/
                 
                #32 Browns offensive line.
                per ESPN, Browns wide receivers - 25th in the NFL.
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                  More sonic pollution to wake the neighbors up!

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                  @nickers said:

                  More sonic pollution to wake the neighbors up!

                  Don't worry about the neighbors Nicks - you can't hold that talent hostage.  They'll get over it!

                  I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    Interesting. A lot of fans are wondering if Rees is going to be fired like Ken Dorsey was.

                    Stepanski is boring, and doesn't have the instincts to fool defenses. We'll see if the offense production gets upgraded. It will be tough with the offensive line not being up to par. NOBODY is talking about trick plays. It's a matter of play design, and play calling to keep defenses guessing.

                    Tillman will be back, apparently.

                    https://larrybrownsports.com/football/fans-said-same-thing-kevin-stefanski-browns-play-calling/725387

                    Fans all said the same thing about Browns coach giving up play-calling

                    Meanwhile, oh, look, a film breakdown!

                    I'm done with Stefanski TBH. His offensive design schemes are outdated and unimaginative in today's NFL. Looks like he was propped up by AVP and Callahan as offense dropped off a cliff with their exits. 

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                    @mddawg said:

                    I'm done with Stefanski TBH. His offensive design schemes are outdated and unimaginative in today's NFL. Looks like he was propped up by AVP and Callahan as offense dropped off a cliff with their exits. 

                    I'll say it this way- for a guy who is considered an offensive minded HC to do this twice in two years is hard to just shoo away as 'trying something out'. Talent level or not, it's pretty wonky.

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                      Funniest thing about it all. The best Cleveland has ever looked, came in their only Playoff Win in forever... BTW that game Stephanski what watching the game from his basement with covid. 

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                        Funniest thing about it all. The best Cleveland has ever looked, came in their only Playoff Win in forever... BTW that game Stephanski what watching the game from his basement with covid. 

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                        @poeticg said:

                        Funniest thing about it all. The best Cleveland has ever looked, came in their only Playoff Win in forever... BTW that game Stephanski what watching the game from his basement with covid. 

                        Oh how people forget the D did far more in that game (or frankly Ben/PIt to lose.that game) than the offense did.  Not like the D scored a TD and gave the O a short field for 3 more scores in the first quarter alone....

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                          @poeticg said:

                          Funniest thing about it all. The best Cleveland has ever looked, came in their only Playoff Win in forever... BTW that game Stephanski what watching the game from his basement with covid. 

                          Oh how people forget the D did far more in that game (or frankly Ben/PIt to lose.that game) than the offense did.  Not like the D scored a TD and gave the O a short field for 3 more scores in the first quarter alone....

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                          @reality said:

                          Oh how people forget the D did far more in that game (or frankly Ben/PIt to lose.that game) than the offense did.  Not like the D scored a TD and gave the O a short field for 3 more scores in the first quarter alone....

                          Non-Baker Mayfield obsessed Browns fans remember...

                          Pepperidge Farms remembers too. 

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                            @poeticg said:

                            Funniest thing about it all. The best Cleveland has ever looked, came in their only Playoff Win in forever... BTW that game Stephanski what watching the game from his basement with covid. 

                            Oh how people forget the D did far more in that game (or frankly Ben/PIt to lose.that game) than the offense did.  Not like the D scored a TD and gave the O a short field for 3 more scores in the first quarter alone....

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                            @reality said:

                            Oh how people forget the D did far more in that game (or frankly Ben/PIt to lose.that game) than the offense did.  Not like the D scored a TD and gave the O a short field for 3 more scores in the first quarter alone....

                            Even so - it was a great TEAM win.   FWIW, the score was 48-29 as late as 1:09 remaining in the 4th quarter until a junk time Prevent Defense TD + 2 point conversion was allowed.  Most of the alleged GREAT Steeler fans were already on the highway heading home.  

                            Anyway, the 1st TD of the game was a bad shot-gun snap in the end zone that Myles Garrett recovered on the 1st play from scrimmage after the opening kickoff.  What set that situation up was bad field position from STs. Baker didn't throw any INTs while Ben Rapen threw 4 INTs (some were deflected passes by our DL).  Whether it was short fields or long sustained drives - this offense scored 5 TDs and set up 2 successful FGs.  Seemed like every time they got the football - they punctuated it with points.  We were never so organized and less challenged by Pittsburgh in recent memory.

                            Our replacement HC that day was the STs Coach Mike Priefer while Alex Van Pelt upgraded the Offensive Coordination.  No wonder why they couldn't wait to get rid of both guys not too long after scoring 48 FREAKIN points at Pittsburgh.

                            The weirdest part of all this IMO is that Stefanski applied for the HC position here really only wanting to be the OC calling the plays.  

                            I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                              @reality said:

                              Oh how people forget the D did far more in that game (or frankly Ben/PIt to lose.that game) than the offense did.  Not like the D scored a TD and gave the O a short field for 3 more scores in the first quarter alone....

                              Non-Baker Mayfield obsessed Browns fans remember...

                              Pepperidge Farms remembers too. 

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              Non-Baker Mayfield obsessed Browns fans remember...

                              Pepperidge Farms remembers too. 

                              They didn't even have any Alka-Selzer or Tums commercials for Steeler fans getting ill at home in need.  Poor Gorka - that must have been a horrific night for him. ?

                              I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                @reality said:

                                Oh how people forget the D did far more in that game (or frankly Ben/PIt to lose.that game) than the offense did.  Not like the D scored a TD and gave the O a short field for 3 more scores in the first quarter alone....

                                Non-Baker Mayfield obsessed Browns fans remember...

                                Pepperidge Farms remembers too. 

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Non-Baker Mayfield obsessed Browns fans remember...

                                Pepperidge Farms remembers too. 

                                The Browns FO lives on Once Upon A Farm. When do we get our travel points?

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                                  @mddawg said:

                                  I'm done with Stefanski TBH. His offensive design schemes are outdated and unimaginative in today's NFL. Looks like he was propped up by AVP and Callahan as offense dropped off a cliff with their exits. 

                                  back in hs, I was a stat guy with a friend for football. It was as close to the game I could get. Every play, we'd write down the formation, the play, player numbers, result of the play. It got so I could predict what they were going to run by how they lined up, and the stances of the offense - qb/rb/ot.

                                    Stepanski's offense seems like that. But it is worse - the drafting for offense.

                                  Look at the first round draft picks for offense.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks

                                  2020 - Jedrick Wills, OT, blah.

                                  2018 - Baker Mayfield, but should have drafted my pick, Josh Allen

                                  2017 - David Njoku, who took years to be a dependable ball catcher. duh.

                                  2016 - Cory Coleman, midget wr..... 

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                                  https://factoryofsadness.co › 2020 › 09 › 07 › corey-coleman-will-forever-remain-one-browns-biggest-mistakes

                                  Corey Coleman will forever remain one of the Browns biggest mistakes

                                  The Giants released Corey Coleman, providing proof once and for all what a mistake his selection was for the Cleveland Browns.
                                   
                                  2015 - Cameron Irving, C. Injury prone throughout his career, floated from team to team, position to position. nope.
                                  2014 - Johnny Manziel. dammit, how stupid a pick that was.
                                  2012 - Brandon Weedon. another dismal mistake.
                                  2012 - Trent Richardson, considered one of the biggest draft busts in history
                                  2019 - Alex Mack, C, a star
                                   
                                  Hardly a way to build a dynamic offense. Then there is the play calling. Your offensive line is struggling, getting overrun by the Pats defense and you call a flea-flicker? etc etc.
                                   
                                  What is really hopeless, is the Browns offensive line, which is not helped by stepanski's inability to adapt to what is going on in a game....
                                   
                                  https://thelistwire.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/10/30/pro-football-focus-ranking-nfl-offensive-line-week-9-pff/86979072007/
                                   
                                  #32 Browns offensive line.
                                  per ESPN, Browns wide receivers - 25th in the NFL.
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  back in hs, I was a stat guy with a friend for football. It was as close to the game I could get. Every play, we'd write down the formation, the play, player numbers, result of the play. It got so I could predict what they were going to run by how they lined up, and the stances of the offense - qb/rb/ot.

                                    Stepanski's offense seems like that. But it is worse - the drafting for offense.

                                  Look at the first round draft picks for offense.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks

                                  2020 - Jedrick Wills, OT, blah.

                                  2018 - Baker Mayfield, but should have drafted my pick, Josh Allen

                                  2017 - David Njoku, who took years to be a dependable ball catcher. duh.

                                  2016 - Cory Coleman, midget wr..... 

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                                  https://factoryofsadness.co › 2020 › 09 › 07 › corey-coleman-will-forever-remain-one-browns-biggest-mistakes

                                  Corey Coleman will forever remain one of the Browns biggest mistakes

                                  The Giants released Corey Coleman, providing proof once and for all what a mistake his selection was for the Cleveland Browns.
                                   
                                  2015 - Cameron Irving, C. Injury prone throughout his career, floated from team to team, position to position. nope.
                                  2014 - Johnny Manziel. dammit, how stupid a pick that was.
                                  2012 - Brandon Weedon. another dismal mistake.
                                  2012 - Trent Richardson, considered one of the biggest draft busts in history
                                  2019 - Alex Mack, C, a star
                                   
                                  Hardly a way to build a dynamic offense. Then there is the play calling. Your offensive line is struggling, getting overrun by the Pats defense and you call a flea-flicker? etc etc.
                                   
                                  What is really hopeless, is the Browns offensive line, which is not helped by stepanski's inability to adapt to what is going on in a game....
                                   
                                  https://thelistwire.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/10/30/pro-football-focus-ranking-nfl-offensive-line-week-9-pff/86979072007/
                                   
                                  #32 Browns offensive line.
                                  per ESPN, Browns wide receivers - 25th in the NFL.

                                  I appreciate your acknowledgement, finally coming around that poor drafting effects every NFL coach. 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Non-Baker Mayfield obsessed Browns fans remember...

                                    Pepperidge Farms remembers too. 

                                    They didn't even have any Alka-Selzer or Tums commercials for Steeler fans getting ill at home in need.  Poor Gorka - that must have been a horrific night for him. ?

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    @flugel said:

                                    They didn't even have any Alka-Selzer or Tums commercials for Steeler fans getting ill at home in need.  Poor Gorka - that must have been a horrific night for him. ?

                                    Cal and nicker’s bodyguard probably cried himself asleep on his cock shaped pillow that night ?

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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      back in hs, I was a stat guy with a friend for football. It was as close to the game I could get. Every play, we'd write down the formation, the play, player numbers, result of the play. It got so I could predict what they were going to run by how they lined up, and the stances of the offense - qb/rb/ot.

                                        Stepanski's offense seems like that. But it is worse - the drafting for offense.

                                      Look at the first round draft picks for offense.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks

                                      2020 - Jedrick Wills, OT, blah.

                                      2018 - Baker Mayfield, but should have drafted my pick, Josh Allen

                                      2017 - David Njoku, who took years to be a dependable ball catcher. duh.

                                      2016 - Cory Coleman, midget wr..... 

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                                      https://factoryofsadness.co › 2020 › 09 › 07 › corey-coleman-will-forever-remain-one-browns-biggest-mistakes

                                      Corey Coleman will forever remain one of the Browns biggest mistakes

                                      The Giants released Corey Coleman, providing proof once and for all what a mistake his selection was for the Cleveland Browns.
                                       
                                      2015 - Cameron Irving, C. Injury prone throughout his career, floated from team to team, position to position. nope.
                                      2014 - Johnny Manziel. dammit, how stupid a pick that was.
                                      2012 - Brandon Weedon. another dismal mistake.
                                      2012 - Trent Richardson, considered one of the biggest draft busts in history
                                      2019 - Alex Mack, C, a star
                                       
                                      Hardly a way to build a dynamic offense. Then there is the play calling. Your offensive line is struggling, getting overrun by the Pats defense and you call a flea-flicker? etc etc.
                                       
                                      What is really hopeless, is the Browns offensive line, which is not helped by stepanski's inability to adapt to what is going on in a game....
                                       
                                      https://thelistwire.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/10/30/pro-football-focus-ranking-nfl-offensive-line-week-9-pff/86979072007/
                                       
                                      #32 Browns offensive line.
                                      per ESPN, Browns wide receivers - 25th in the NFL.

                                      I appreciate your acknowledgement, finally coming around that poor drafting effects every NFL coach. 

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                                      @tiamat63 said:

                                      I appreciate your acknowledgement, finally coming around that poor drafting effects every NFL coach. 

                                      another worthless comment? of course your stupanski wasn't the hc all those years. You smoking something funny or what?

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                                        @tiamat63 said:

                                        I appreciate your acknowledgement, finally coming around that poor drafting effects every NFL coach. 

                                        another worthless comment? of course your stupanski wasn't the hc all those years. You smoking something funny or what?

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                                        of course your stupanski wasn't the hc all those years. You smoking something funny or what?

                                        This 1st round pick is tied directly to the Stefanski coaching staff and is a weight on the current roster still being felt. 

                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        2020 - Jedrick Wills, blah

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                                        2019 - Alex Mack, C, a star
                                         
                                        What is really hopeless, is the Browns offensive line, which is not helped by stepanski's inability to adapt to what is going on in a game....
                                         
                                        https://thelistwire.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/10/30/pro-football-focus-ranking-nfl-offensive-line-week-9-pff/86979072007/
                                         
                                        #32 Browns offensive line.
                                        per ESPN, Browns wide receivers - 25th in the NFL.

                                         Alex Mack was drafted in 2009. A full decade before your comment.  He was in Atlanta 4 seasons before Stef became head coach in Cleveland. 

                                         Question- when the coaching staff designs a game plan around high percentage 3 and 5 step drop passes, to get the QB in rhythm and to help ease the burden on pass protection, yet the QB fails to consistently complete them as called, whose fault is it? 

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          of course your stupanski wasn't the hc all those years. You smoking something funny or what?

                                          This 1st round pick is tied directly to the Stefanski coaching staff and is a weight on the current roster still being felt. 

                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          2020 - Jedrick Wills, blah

                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          2019 - Alex Mack, C, a star
                                           
                                          What is really hopeless, is the Browns offensive line, which is not helped by stepanski's inability to adapt to what is going on in a game....
                                           
                                          https://thelistwire.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/10/30/pro-football-focus-ranking-nfl-offensive-line-week-9-pff/86979072007/
                                           
                                          #32 Browns offensive line.
                                          per ESPN, Browns wide receivers - 25th in the NFL.

                                           Alex Mack was drafted in 2009. A full decade before your comment.  He was in Atlanta 4 seasons before Stef became head coach in Cleveland. 

                                           Question- when the coaching staff designs a game plan around high percentage 3 and 5 step drop passes, to get the QB in rhythm and to help ease the burden on pass protection, yet the QB fails to consistently complete them as called, whose fault is it? 

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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          Alex Mack was drafted in 2009. A full decade before your comment.  He was in Atlanta 4 seasons before Stef became head coach in Cleveland. 

                                          wow. you figured that out? cool. The rest of us knew that automatically.

                                          Question:

                                          When an offensive line is rated last in the NFL, is it the qb's fault? or your honey stupanski?

                                            I say your sweetheart stupanski will get fired.

                                          Flacco struggled terribly with the Browns, but is really playing well with the Bengals.

                                          Your stupanski had Baker playing with a stupid sling on his shoulder. Is that Baker's fault or stupanski's fault?

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