The Official Browns at Bears Game 14 Thread
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When you have an Oline - you can rank 2nd at running the ball out of 32 teams like the Bears have accomplished as depicted below. Their QB is also improving after a rookie year where their fanbase thought they got it wrong again; because success running the ball sets up play-action passing. The Oline matters even though people cringe at the thought of drafting them. If you need at least 5 every week (considering injuries over 17 weeks) - this team is way behind too many teams with talent on the OL.
The good news is the Bears seemed to fix their Oline in one off season. I recall during the broadcast they talked about how they got a new center and 2 new guards, so the IOL was brand new as of this year.
If they can do it, maybe we can too.
The good news is the Bears seemed to fix their Oline in one off season. I recall during the broadcast they talked about how they got a new center and 2 new guards, so the IOL was brand new as of this year.
If they can do it, maybe we can too.
Agreed! That's exactly why I posted what I posted. If you can have the 2nd ranked running game - it opens up your play-action pass game and gives you doable 3rd down conversions. Caleb's stats are improved especially his TD:INT ratio but he's still only completing 58% of his passes (shown below). I'm not gonna judge Sanders by THIS OL and Jerry Jeudy's rock quarry for hands. Legit #1 WRs would have caught that ball at the goal line instead of had it bounce off their chest into the DB's hands that had him tightly covered... That said, I wish Sanders played better; and I also would have liked to have had our plays into the QB quicker every time the offense took the field. There were numerous times they barely got it snapped in time.
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When you have an Oline - you can rank 2nd at running the ball out of 32 teams like the Bears have accomplished as depicted below. Their QB is also improving after a rookie year where their fanbase thought they got it wrong again; because success running the ball sets up play-action passing. The Oline matters even though people cringe at the thought of drafting them. If you need at least 5 every week (considering injuries over 17 weeks) - this team is way behind too many teams with talent on the OL.
The good news is the Bears seemed to fix their Oline in one off season. I recall during the broadcast they talked about how they got a new center and 2 new guards, so the IOL was brand new as of this year.
If they can do it, maybe we can too.
The good news is the Bears seemed to fix their Oline in one off season. I recall during the broadcast they talked about how they got a new center and 2 new guards, so the IOL was brand new as of this year.
If they can do it, maybe we can too.
Problem is I believe the three interior OLinemen they got were all veterans acquired through trades/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
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Yeah, people were ready to write off Caleb last season and tbh he looked pretty bad, holding the ball too long taking sacks, couldn't read the field etc but look at what an offseason (and new coach) did for him. People shouldn't make the same mistake with Shedeur.
Not only that but Jeudy tried to body-catch the deep throw that bounced off his chest into the cradle of the DB that had him well covered. That was the INT at the goal-line/endzone. When Jeudy is our #1 WR - we're in trouble. 2 of our 1st 3 picks need to be OL and 1 should be WR. The volume of OTs is said to be weak so waiting until round 6 thinking there's a modern day Cody Risien for the right team or holding off for Undrafted Free Agents thinking there's another Tony (T-Bone) Jones ready to be a solid LT isn't advisable with the 2026 supply for the demand...
Not only that but Jeudy tried to body-catch the deep throw that bounced off his chest into the cradle of the DB that had him well covered. That was the INT at the goal-line/endzone. When Jeudy is our #1 WR - we're in trouble. 2 of our 1st 3 picks need to be OL and 1 should be WR. The volume of OTs is said to be weak so waiting until round 6 thinking there's a modern day Cody Risien for the right team or holding off for Undrafted Free Agents thinking there's another Tony (T-Bone) Jones ready to be a solid LT isn't advisable with the 2026 supply for the demand...
That was inexcusable for Jeudy, I recall Lavardain being unable to bring down a similar catch in the Baltimore game but he's a UDFA rookie. We need a true WR1, hopefully Bond can grow into a WR2 and Jeudy drop to WR3.
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Not only that but Jeudy tried to body-catch the deep throw that bounced off his chest into the cradle of the DB that had him well covered. That was the INT at the goal-line/endzone. When Jeudy is our #1 WR - we're in trouble. 2 of our 1st 3 picks need to be OL and 1 should be WR. The volume of OTs is said to be weak so waiting until round 6 thinking there's a modern day Cody Risien for the right team or holding off for Undrafted Free Agents thinking there's another Tony (T-Bone) Jones ready to be a solid LT isn't advisable with the 2026 supply for the demand...
That was inexcusable for Jeudy, I recall Lavardain being unable to bring down a similar catch in the Baltimore game but he's a UDFA rookie. We need a true WR1, hopefully Bond can grow into a WR2 and Jeudy drop to WR3.
That was inexcusable for Jeudy, I recall Lavardain being unable to bring down a similar catch in the Baltimore game but he's a UDFA rookie. We need a true WR1, hopefully Bond can grow into a WR2 and Jeudy drop to WR3.
Correct on Jeudy. I still don't understand why the Browns extended his contract when he hadn't played a down here yet.
The Lavardain play looked like DPI to me, but since it wasn't called you have to credit the Ratbirds defender for ripping it out.
Let's build the trenches in the draft first, maybe for once we get lucky on a WR in round 2 or 3. There's a real possibility we will have pick #1, 32, & 33 ( meaning Jax wins the SB?).
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Met some friends up in Cleveland, got an Airbnb a couple houses down from the Christmas Story House, got dinner at Mabel's and watched Ohio State win a thrilling double OT game vs West Virginia by one point Saturday.
Got up and walked down to the Rowley Inn (like Mabel's, I highly recommend this place) for a great breakfast, then drove north to Ohio City and grabbed a few drinks at a place called the Old Angle Tavern, a nice Irish bar.
Then the Browns game started.
Sigh. ?
Met some friends up in Cleveland, got an Airbnb a couple houses down from the Christmas Story House, got dinner at Mabel's and watched Ohio State win a thrilling double OT game vs West Virginia by one point Saturday.
Got up and walked down to the Rowley Inn (like Mabel's, I highly recommend this place) for a great breakfast, then drove north to Ohio City and grabbed a few drinks at a place called the Old Angle Tavern, a nice Irish bar.
Then the Browns game started.
Sigh. ?
we stayed at a Hilton the entire area decked out for the holidays, well the next morning we went to a place called grits and gravy (one of the few black owned restaurants in the city) food was awesome and we made our way to the train station, A half hour delay turned into a 2 hour delay, so we found a sports bar ( called fields , a real nice place for the location) all I can say is thank god for alcohol cause that was some ugly ass shit to watch, oh well Portland is not burning down as some orange guy said and I did not see any homeless eating cats or dogs
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All-22 was out early today. Bears picked up where TEN left off last week with the run DEF issues.
Once they got Mikey Hall and/or Sam Kamara on the field, they had efficient runs then explosive runs. Even Shelby Harris struggled at times. Browns are losing the battle on the IDL more and more without Maliek Collins.
A couple questionable designs (so far) by Schwartz when the Bears went heavy(ier) and ran the ball, and some non-existent defensive checks that should absolutely have happened when CHI went with their 2 TE, YY looks.
Defense did an admirable job cleaning things up after the first couple drives, but the lack of offensive support only lasts so long in the modern NFL.
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The good news is the Bears seemed to fix their Oline in one off season. I recall during the broadcast they talked about how they got a new center and 2 new guards, so the IOL was brand new as of this year.
If they can do it, maybe we can too.
Problem is I believe the three interior OLinemen they got were all veterans acquired through trades/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
Problem is I believe the three interior OLinemen they got were all veterans acquired through trades/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
I'm not aiming this at you as much as it is an ideal place to put it. We can draft 2 Tackles this year within the 1st 3 picks and get a very good WR with the other one. Again, Tackle volume isn't deep in this draft so it isn't the type of draft you can wait for 2 positions that sunk this team all year.
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The good news is the Bears seemed to fix their Oline in one off season. I recall during the broadcast they talked about how they got a new center and 2 new guards, so the IOL was brand new as of this year.
If they can do it, maybe we can too.
Problem is I believe the three interior OLinemen they got were all veterans acquired through trades/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
Problem is I believe the three interior OLinemen they got were all veterans acquired through trades/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
Be that as it may, our IOL guys are paid mighty well already, so it stands to reason we can afford it. There were a few plays the Bears’ IOL really popped. The push was noticeable.
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Problem is I believe the three interior OLinemen they got were all veterans acquired through trades/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
Be that as it may, our IOL guys are paid mighty well already, so it stands to reason we can afford it. There were a few plays the Bears’ IOL really popped. The push was noticeable.
Be that as it may, our IOL guys are paid mighty well already, so it stands to reason we can afford it. There were a few plays the Bears’ IOL really popped. The push was noticeable.
Wasn't *just* the push - Ben Johnson has done a great job getting his OL setup to utilize good angles by design.
Players have to win their assignment and be setup to win that assignment.
All credit to the Bears coaching staff, it's an impressive young group so far. They've improved defensively as the season has gone on as well.
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Met some friends up in Cleveland, got an Airbnb a couple houses down from the Christmas Story House, got dinner at Mabel's and watched Ohio State win a thrilling double OT game vs West Virginia by one point Saturday.
Got up and walked down to the Rowley Inn (like Mabel's, I highly recommend this place) for a great breakfast, then drove north to Ohio City and grabbed a few drinks at a place called the Old Angle Tavern, a nice Irish bar.
Then the Browns game started.
Sigh. ?
we stayed at a Hilton the entire area decked out for the holidays, well the next morning we went to a place called grits and gravy (one of the few black owned restaurants in the city) food was awesome and we made our way to the train station, A half hour delay turned into a 2 hour delay, so we found a sports bar ( called fields , a real nice place for the location) all I can say is thank god for alcohol cause that was some ugly ass shit to watch, oh well Portland is not burning down as some orange guy said and I did not see any homeless eating cats or dogs
we stayed at a Hilton the entire area decked out for the holidays, well the next morning we went to a place called grits and gravy (one of the few black owned restaurants in the city) food was awesome and we made our way to the train station, A half hour delay turned into a 2 hour delay, so we found a sports bar ( called fields , a real nice place for the location) all I can say is thank god for alcohol cause that was some ugly ass shit to watch, oh well Portland is not burning down as some orange guy said and I did not see any homeless eating cats or dogs
Did you have grits or gravy? Or both?
I like to put jelly in my grits. I know that’s an embarrassing thing to admit.
Biscuits and gravy is one of my most favoritest things in the world. Splash some hot sauce on it. That’s basically how l imagine heaven.
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we stayed at a Hilton the entire area decked out for the holidays, well the next morning we went to a place called grits and gravy (one of the few black owned restaurants in the city) food was awesome and we made our way to the train station, A half hour delay turned into a 2 hour delay, so we found a sports bar ( called fields , a real nice place for the location) all I can say is thank god for alcohol cause that was some ugly ass shit to watch, oh well Portland is not burning down as some orange guy said and I did not see any homeless eating cats or dogs
Did you have grits or gravy? Or both?
I like to put jelly in my grits. I know that’s an embarrassing thing to admit.
Biscuits and gravy is one of my most favoritest things in the world. Splash some hot sauce on it. That’s basically how l imagine heaven.
Did you have grits or gravy? Or both?
I like to put jelly in my grits. I know that’s an embarrassing thing to admit.
Biscuits and gravy is one of my most favoritest things in the world. Splash some hot sauce on it. That’s basically how l imagine heaven.
LOL I had corned beef hash, the wife had grits and shrimp, very rich and tasty, next time i go there I want to try their bread pudding french toast
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Did you have grits or gravy? Or both?
I like to put jelly in my grits. I know that’s an embarrassing thing to admit.
Biscuits and gravy is one of my most favoritest things in the world. Splash some hot sauce on it. That’s basically how l imagine heaven.
LOL I had corned beef hash, the wife had grits and shrimp, very rich and tasty, next time i go there I want to try their bread pudding french toast
LOL I had corned beef hash, the wife had grits and shrimp, very rich and tasty, next time i go there I want to try their bread pudding french toast
Corned beef hash? Are you hip to goetta? I know you got some Cincy ties.
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Corned beef hash? Are you hip to goetta? I know you got some Cincy ties.
is that anything like scrapple ? i got from Pennsylvania
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Be that as it may, our IOL guys are paid mighty well already, so it stands to reason we can afford it. There were a few plays the Bears’ IOL really popped. The push was noticeable.
Wasn't *just* the push - Ben Johnson has done a great job getting his OL setup to utilize good angles by design.
Players have to win their assignment and be setup to win that assignment.
All credit to the Bears coaching staff, it's an impressive young group so far. They've improved defensively as the season has gone on as well.
Wasn't *just* the push - Ben Johnson has done a great job getting his OL setup to utilize good angles by design.
Players have to win their assignment and be setup to win that assignment.
All credit to the Bears coaching staff, it's an impressive young group so far. They've improved defensively as the season has gone on as well.
Yes, this is reason #2 in my mind that we need to part ways with Stefanski. A HC & staff changes could make a huge difference.
It's just a shame that everything has sunk to this level of performance. Stefanski was 37-30 at one point, but it's time to move on.
Berry didn't hire KS, so if he's canned, AB will "get his guy," although a new coach will have the same type of roster/salary cap issues.
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Wasn't *just* the push - Ben Johnson has done a great job getting his OL setup to utilize good angles by design.
Players have to win their assignment and be setup to win that assignment.
All credit to the Bears coaching staff, it's an impressive young group so far. They've improved defensively as the season has gone on as well.
Yes, this is reason #2 in my mind that we need to part ways with Stefanski. A HC & staff changes could make a huge difference.
It's just a shame that everything has sunk to this level of performance. Stefanski was 37-30 at one point, but it's time to move on.
Berry didn't hire KS, so if he's canned, AB will "get his guy," although a new coach will have the same type of roster/salary cap issues.
Berry didn't hire KS, so if he's canned, AB will "get his guy," although a new coach will have the same type of roster/salary cap issues.
Can't really expect things to change while inheriting the same roster issues then.
Almost feels like we've really arrived at a bit of a causality.
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Corned beef hash? Are you hip to goetta? I know you got some Cincy ties.
is that anything like scrapple ? i got from Pennsylvania
is that anything like scrapple ? i got from Pennsylvania
It is likened to scrapple. It’s basically pork belly, steel cut oats and spices mixed into a damn fine breakfast sausage type thing. It’s German in origin, and a big deal in Cincy.
You have ties to Cincy yeah?
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The good news is the Bears seemed to fix their Oline in one off season. I recall during the broadcast they talked about how they got a new center and 2 new guards, so the IOL was brand new as of this year.
If they can do it, maybe we can too.
Problem is I believe the three interior OLinemen they got were all veterans acquired through trades/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
/free agency.
Our cap problems makes doing something like that difficult
We've got to bring in one veteran who can hold a spot down in FA. And then draft more.
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I say we keep Stefanski. He’s easily the best coach we’ve had since “the return” and l don’t think there’s any question about that. Give him another year.
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I say we keep Stefanski. He’s easily the best coach we’ve had since “the return” and l don’t think there’s any question about that. Give him another year.
I say we keep Stefanski. He’s easily the best coach we’ve had since “the return” and l don’t think there’s any question about that. Give him another year.
At the moment, I give that about a 15% chance of happening.
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It is likened to scrapple. It’s basically pork belly, steel cut oats and spices mixed into a damn fine breakfast sausage type thing. It’s German in origin, and a big deal in Cincy.
You have ties to Cincy yeah?
nope just Columbus anymore
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