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  • E Earl34

    I don't really believe that Maiava was ever meant to start beyond special teams. That said, I think that a "BIG SPLASH" is still to come. I smell a trade.

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    @earl34 said:

    I don't really believe that Maiava was ever meant to start beyond special teams. That said, I think that a "BIG SPLASH" is still to come. I smell a trade.

    I think it will be on draft day.

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      @jrex223 said:

      oh, lets get rid of the guy that has led our team in tackles for 3 straight years, (not including last year). Some Browns fans just dont get it, I've heard too many assnine statement lately.

      Maiava?... are you serious?...

      Thats a Gigantic drop-off

      Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

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      nmills said:

      Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

      *Buzzer Sound*

      wrong

      he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here

      dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in

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        chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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        its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

        lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

        another second would be a blessing.

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          its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

          lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

          another second would be a blessing.

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          @choco said:

          its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

          lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

          another second would be a blessing.[/quote]

          we were giving up 126 rushing YPG with DJ

          without him.............163

          all another 2nd does is put an unproven unknown player on the team its not a blessing

          sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

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          • chocoC choco

            its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

            lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

            another second would be a blessing.

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            Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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            @choco said:

            its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

            We played better without Rogers also. I say trade him for a 2nd.

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              nmills said:

              Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

              *Buzzer Sound*

              wrong

              he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here

              dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in

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              C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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              @jb32goat said:

              *Buzzer Sound*

              wrong

              he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here

              dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in

              thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

              Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 3 games started last year

              Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games started

              Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

              Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

              1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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              • C CLEVELandMILIDH

                @jb32goat said:

                *Buzzer Sound*

                wrong

                he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here

                dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in

                thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

                Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 3 games started last year

                Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games started

                Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

                Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

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                J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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                nmills said:

                thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

                Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 16 games played last year

                Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games played

                Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

                Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

                yes it was your point or you wouldnt have posted it

                there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

                keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

                dig dig dig

                can you just make 1 good post?

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                  nmills said:

                  thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

                  Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 16 games played last year

                  Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games played

                  Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

                  Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

                  yes it was your point or you wouldnt have posted it

                  there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

                  keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

                  dig dig dig

                  can you just make 1 good post?

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                  C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                  @jb32goat said:

                  there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

                  keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

                  I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

                  1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                    @choco said:

                    its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

                    lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

                    another second would be a blessing.[/quote]

                    we were giving up 126 rushing YPG with DJ

                    without him.............163

                    all another 2nd does is put an unproven unknown player on the team its not a blessing

                    sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

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                    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                    @jb32goat said:

                    sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

                    so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                    even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                    you kill me....lol.

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                      @jrex223 said:

                      oh, lets get rid of the guy that has led our team in tackles for 3 straight years, (not including last year). Some Browns fans just dont get it, I've heard too many assnine statement lately.

                      Maiava?... are you serious?...

                      Thats a Gigantic drop-off

                      Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

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                      JRex223J JRex223 wrote on last edited by
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                      nmills said:

                      Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

                      He was solid to say the least, He dropped off so we got rid of him. He had a pretty good season with denver last year. Hes had a great career for a 5th rounder.

                      By the Way: Jackson is much more talented than Davis. big difference

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                      • C CLEVELandMILIDH

                        @jb32goat said:

                        there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

                        keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

                        I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

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                        J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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                        nmills said:

                        I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

                        100% wrong

                        and

                        Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                        can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

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                          Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                          Where did these douchebags come from?

                          I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                          • chocoC choco

                            @jb32goat said:

                            sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

                            so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                            even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                            you kill me....lol.

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                            J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by
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                            @choco said:

                            so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                            even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                            you kill me....lol.

                            your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                            by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

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                              @choco said:

                              so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                              even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                              you kill me....lol.

                              your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                              by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

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                              Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                              @jb32goat said:

                              your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                              by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

                              While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                              It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

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                                nmills said:

                                I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

                                100% wrong

                                and

                                Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                                can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

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                                C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                                @jb32goat said:

                                100% wrong

                                and

                                Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                                can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

                                did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more than 300 plays all season

                                1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                  @jb32goat said:

                                  100% wrong

                                  and

                                  Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                                  can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

                                  did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more than 300 plays all season

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                                  J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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                                  nmills said:

                                  did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                                  no sorry i dont post like you

                                  i actually do my re-search

                                  you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                  and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                  Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                  Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                                    nmills said:

                                    did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                                    no sorry i dont post like you

                                    i actually do my re-search

                                    you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                    and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                    Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                    Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                                    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                                    @jb32goat said:

                                    no sorry i dont post like you

                                    i actually do my re-search

                                    lets see it

                                    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                      @jb32goat said:

                                      your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                                      by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

                                      While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                                      It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

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                                      J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                      While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                                      It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

                                      good for them i guess they always want to be wrong then

                                      i always look up and re-search my post to make sure they are 100% accurate

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                                        Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                                        This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

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                                          nmills said:

                                          did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                                          no sorry i dont post like you

                                          i actually do my re-search

                                          you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                          and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                          Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                          Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                                          C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jb32goat said:

                                          no sorry i dont post like you

                                          i actually do my re-search

                                          you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                          and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                          Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                          Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

                                          We had 1072 offensive plays against us last year. I would say Maiva maybe played a third of them plays. which would be a little over 300 plays, so i really dont beleive Maiva played 300 more plays then Jackson.

                                          1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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