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  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    @jrex223 said:

    oh, lets get rid of the guy that has led our team in tackles for 3 straight years, (not including last year). Some Browns fans just dont get it, I've heard too many assnine statement lately.

    Maiava?... are you serious?...

    Thats a Gigantic drop-off

    Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

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    JRex223J JRex223 wrote on last edited by
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    nmills said:

    Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

    He was solid to say the least, He dropped off so we got rid of him. He had a pretty good season with denver last year. Hes had a great career for a 5th rounder.

    By the Way: Jackson is much more talented than Davis. big difference

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      @jb32goat said:

      there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

      keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

      I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

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      J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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      nmills said:

      I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

      100% wrong

      and

      Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

      can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

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        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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        Where did these douchebags come from?

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          @jb32goat said:

          sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

          so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

          even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

          you kill me....lol.

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          J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by
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          @choco said:

          so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

          even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

          you kill me....lol.

          your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

          by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

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            @choco said:

            so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

            even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

            you kill me....lol.

            your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

            by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

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            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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            @jb32goat said:

            your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

            by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

            While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

            It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

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              nmills said:

              I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

              100% wrong

              and

              Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

              can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

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              C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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              @jb32goat said:

              100% wrong

              and

              Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

              can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

              did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more than 300 plays all season

              1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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              • C CLEVELandMILIDH

                @jb32goat said:

                100% wrong

                and

                Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

                did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more than 300 plays all season

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                J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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                nmills said:

                did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                no sorry i dont post like you

                i actually do my re-search

                you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                  nmills said:

                  did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                  no sorry i dont post like you

                  i actually do my re-search

                  you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                  and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                  Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                  Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                  C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                  @jb32goat said:

                  no sorry i dont post like you

                  i actually do my re-search

                  lets see it

                  1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                    @jb32goat said:

                    your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                    by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

                    While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                    It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

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                    J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by
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                    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                    While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                    It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

                    good for them i guess they always want to be wrong then

                    i always look up and re-search my post to make sure they are 100% accurate

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                      Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                      This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

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                        nmills said:

                        did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                        no sorry i dont post like you

                        i actually do my re-search

                        you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                        and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                        Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                        Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                        C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                        @jb32goat said:

                        no sorry i dont post like you

                        i actually do my re-search

                        you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                        and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                        Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                        Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

                        We had 1072 offensive plays against us last year. I would say Maiva maybe played a third of them plays. which would be a little over 300 plays, so i really dont beleive Maiva played 300 more plays then Jackson.

                        1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                          Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                          This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

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                          JRex223J JRex223 wrote on last edited by
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                          @roach said:

                          Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                          This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

                          Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?

                          I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.

                          I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.

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                            wow wow wow, cant believe you guys landed Fujita. This was one of parcells favorite players.

                            Scott has easily 4 years left in him and is one of the best leaders in the NFL. He is also one heck of a nice guy.

                            I cant tell you what a shock this is to us in N.O. , you landed one of the best all around LB in the NFL, he will be not only a key player on the field but in the locker room and community. Good luck scott , we will really miss you

                            Saints board in shock

                            http://saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156161

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                              @roach said:

                              Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                              This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

                              Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?

                              I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.

                              I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.

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                              @jrex223 said:

                              Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?

                              I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.

                              I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.

                              Let's see how many sniffs we get at a 2nd round pick from that tender.

                              Instincts? That's where we differ. How often does Jackson meet the ball carrier at the line of scrimmage? Watch Trusnick. i wish a guy with his instincts had the physical gifts of Jackson.

                              We agree that instincts are important. i'm afraid that on this player, that is where our agreement ends.

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                                C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                                Fujita gets three-year, $14 million deal

                                Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 8:40 PM ET

                                The Browns made a big splash in free agency without spending big cash.

                                Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that linebacker Scott Fujita's deal is worth $14 million over three years.

                                It's hardly a big-money deal -- and it makes us wonder why the Saints didn't cough up the same package in order to keep Fujita from leaving.

                                1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                  next2nothingN next2nothing wrote on last edited by
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                                  Great news! I was really hoping we'd be able to sign him.

                                  He brings leadership and a high motor to our defense. Great signing.

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                                    @jrex223 said:

                                    Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?

                                    I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.

                                    I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.

                                    Let's see how many sniffs we get at a 2nd round pick from that tender.

                                    Instincts? That's where we differ. How often does Jackson meet the ball carrier at the line of scrimmage? Watch Trusnick. i wish a guy with his instincts had the physical gifts of Jackson.

                                    We agree that instincts are important. i'm afraid that on this player, that is where our agreement ends.

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                                    JRex223J JRex223 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @roach said:

                                    Let's see how many sniffs we get at a 2nd round pick from that tender.

                                    Instincts? That's where we differ. How often does Jackson meet the ball carrier at the line of scrimmage? Watch Trusnick. i wish a guy with his instincts had the physical gifts of Jackson.

                                    We agree that instincts are important. i'm afraid that on this player, that is where our agreement ends.

                                    He does it often enough. He didnt get in this league because of his physical gifts. Hes short and undersized, but he plays big. How many times has he got his hands on a pass, I know he has a few picks. Those are the instincts im talking about. Hes good at reading plays quickly. Hes great in coverage and finds the ball, hes decent against the run because of his size, hes made a lot of plays on the edge, but hes toast in the middle, thats why Fujita is a very good signing. Hes huge and the guy he can play. He can stuff the run and even put some more pressure on the QB.

                                    Had to get one last rebuttle in there my freind, i think the lost season has made some forget.

                                    BTW... I hope we do get some Sniffs, thats probably what the Browns equated his value too. It still pretty high for a guy whos been out a season. That Bodes well for us.

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                                      nmills said:

                                      did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                                      no sorry i dont post like you

                                      i actually do my re-search

                                      you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                      and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                      Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                      Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                                      ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jb32goat said:

                                      no sorry i dont post like you

                                      i actually do my re-search

                                      you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                      and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                      Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                      Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

                                      I don't know where you did your research, and I don't know exactly what you are trying to say... but... from NFL.com

                                      We had 63, 72, 66, 76, 68, 74 plays against us in the first 6 games that Jackson played. That's 421 plays, in which he recorded 59 tackles. That's 7 plays per tackle. That is also on pace for 157 tackles.

                                      Maiava did not record a single game stat until that 6th game, in which his stats were similar, but just under what Jackson recorded. I don't know what that means exactly, as NFL.com doesn't tell you how many plays each defender actually played in.

                                      After jackson was injured, Maiava did not record a game stat in two games. Whether this means he was shut out, or didn't play, I don't know. But the number of games he recorded game stats in, were 9, at 594 plays, which equals 12 plays per tackle. Add in the other 7 games he had no stats in, that equals 21 plays per tackle.

                                      By the way, Maiava only had 48 tackles.

                                      So what does all this tell us? I don't know, but I do know it doesn't tell us that Maiava played 300 more plays than Jackson. I would say in the 5 games that Jackson played healthy, that Maiava probably got 5 defensive plays total, in each game. That's 25 plays. In the 6th game, Maiava probably played in a 3rd of the plays (not half, because Maiava was probably the backer removed in the nickle package.) So rounding up, that comes to 50 plays in the first 6 games. No stats in games 11 and 12, so lets say he played all those plays anyways, even though it was probably closer the first 6 games. That comes to 646 plays to Jackson's 386 plays.

                                      But the number of plays shouldn't be what we are looking at, it should be the number of plays per tackle.

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                                        Welcome the Asian Assassin.

                                        Fujita was named defensive captain of the Saints in 07.

                                        good story about him

                                        http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...=fleming/061110

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                                          Roth, Fujita, Jackson and Wimbley?? Thats a damn good lineup

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