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  • choco chocoC
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    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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    its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

    lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

    another second would be a blessing.

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      its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

      lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

      another second would be a blessing.

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      J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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      @choco said:

      its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

      lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

      another second would be a blessing.[/quote]

      we were giving up 126 rushing YPG with DJ

      without him.............163

      all another 2nd does is put an unproven unknown player on the team its not a blessing

      sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

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        its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

        lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

        another second would be a blessing.

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        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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        @choco said:

        its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

        We played better without Rogers also. I say trade him for a 2nd.

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          nmills said:

          Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

          *Buzzer Sound*

          wrong

          he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here

          dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in

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          C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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          @jb32goat said:

          *Buzzer Sound*

          wrong

          he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here

          dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in

          thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

          Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 3 games started last year

          Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games started

          Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

          Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

          1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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            @jb32goat said:

            *Buzzer Sound*

            wrong

            he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here

            dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in

            thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

            Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 3 games started last year

            Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games started

            Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

            Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

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            J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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            nmills said:

            thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

            Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 16 games played last year

            Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games played

            Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

            Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

            yes it was your point or you wouldnt have posted it

            there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

            keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

            dig dig dig

            can you just make 1 good post?

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              nmills said:

              thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable

              Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 16 games played last year

              Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games played

              Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.

              Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring

              yes it was your point or you wouldnt have posted it

              there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

              keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

              dig dig dig

              can you just make 1 good post?

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              C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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              @jb32goat said:

              there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

              keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

              I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

              1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                @choco said:

                its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....

                lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.

                another second would be a blessing.[/quote]

                we were giving up 126 rushing YPG with DJ

                without him.............163

                all another 2nd does is put an unproven unknown player on the team its not a blessing

                sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

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                chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                @jb32goat said:

                sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

                so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                you kill me....lol.

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                  @jrex223 said:

                  oh, lets get rid of the guy that has led our team in tackles for 3 straight years, (not including last year). Some Browns fans just dont get it, I've heard too many assnine statement lately.

                  Maiava?... are you serious?...

                  Thats a Gigantic drop-off

                  Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

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                  JRex223J JRex223 wrote on last edited by
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                  nmills said:

                  Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much

                  He was solid to say the least, He dropped off so we got rid of him. He had a pretty good season with denver last year. Hes had a great career for a 5th rounder.

                  By the Way: Jackson is much more talented than Davis. big difference

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                    @jb32goat said:

                    there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better

                    keep digging that hole deeper and deeper

                    I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

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                    J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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                    nmills said:

                    I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

                    100% wrong

                    and

                    Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                    can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

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                      Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                      Where did these douchebags come from?

                      I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                        @jb32goat said:

                        sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless

                        so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                        even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                        you kill me....lol.

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                        J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by
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                        @choco said:

                        so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                        even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                        you kill me....lol.

                        your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                        by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

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                          @choco said:

                          so, where else do players come from other than the draft?

                          even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.

                          you kill me....lol.

                          your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                          by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

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                          Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                          @jb32goat said:

                          your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                          by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

                          While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                          It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

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                            nmills said:

                            I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding

                            100% wrong

                            and

                            Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                            can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

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                            C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                            @jb32goat said:

                            100% wrong

                            and

                            Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                            can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

                            did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more than 300 plays all season

                            1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                              @jb32goat said:

                              100% wrong

                              and

                              Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson

                              can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet

                              did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more than 300 plays all season

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                              J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by JB32GOAT
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                              nmills said:

                              did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                              no sorry i dont post like you

                              i actually do my re-search

                              you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                              and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                              Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                              Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                                nmills said:

                                did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                                no sorry i dont post like you

                                i actually do my re-search

                                you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                                C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                                @jb32goat said:

                                no sorry i dont post like you

                                i actually do my re-search

                                lets see it

                                1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                  @jb32goat said:

                                  your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie

                                  by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned

                                  While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                                  It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

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                                  J JB32GOAT wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                  While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".

                                  It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.

                                  good for them i guess they always want to be wrong then

                                  i always look up and re-search my post to make sure they are 100% accurate

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                                    Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                                    This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

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                                      nmills said:

                                      did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all season

                                      no sorry i dont post like you

                                      i actually do my re-search

                                      you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                      and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                      Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                      Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

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                                      C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jb32goat said:

                                      no sorry i dont post like you

                                      i actually do my re-search

                                      you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?

                                      and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury

                                      Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)

                                      Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10

                                      We had 1072 offensive plays against us last year. I would say Maiva maybe played a third of them plays. which would be a little over 300 plays, so i really dont beleive Maiva played 300 more plays then Jackson.

                                      1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                        Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                                        This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

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                                        JRex223J JRex223 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @roach said:

                                        Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.

                                        This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.

                                        Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?

                                        I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.

                                        I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.

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                                          wow wow wow, cant believe you guys landed Fujita. This was one of parcells favorite players.

                                          Scott has easily 4 years left in him and is one of the best leaders in the NFL. He is also one heck of a nice guy.

                                          I cant tell you what a shock this is to us in N.O. , you landed one of the best all around LB in the NFL, he will be not only a key player on the field but in the locker room and community. Good luck scott , we will really miss you

                                          Saints board in shock

                                          http://saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156161

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