Fujita signed...
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its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....
lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.
another second would be a blessing.
its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....
lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.
another second would be a blessing.[/quote]
we were giving up 126 rushing YPG with DJ
without him.............163
all another 2nd does is put an unproven unknown player on the team its not a blessing
sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless
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its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....
lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.
another second would be a blessing.
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nmills said:
Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much*Buzzer Sound*
wrong
he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here
dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in
*Buzzer Sound*
wrong
he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here
dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in
thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable
Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 3 games started last year
Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games started
Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.
Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring
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*Buzzer Sound*
wrong
he only did it twice in the 7 years he was here
dont go making up lies, your only digging a deeper hole then your already in
thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceable
Maiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 3 games started last year
Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games started
Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.
Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring
nmills said:
thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceableMaiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 16 games played last year
Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games played
Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.
Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring
yes it was your point or you wouldnt have posted it
there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better
keep digging that hole deeper and deeper
dig dig dig
can you just make 1 good post?
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nmills said:
thats not the point, the point is your ILB is usually the one leading the team in tackles. Just because you rack up alot of tackles doesn't mean your irreplaceableMaiva had 45 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 16 games played last year
Jackson had 59 tackles with 0 sacks in 6 games played
Maiva was a rookie he'll get better, plus you have Barton, Fujita, Trusnik, Bowens that can all play inside and we dont no what we have in Veikune.
Im just saying I think its a trade off worth taking. No hole digging JMO you dont have to agree if everybody ageed this place would be pretty boring
yes it was your point or you wouldnt have posted it
there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better
keep digging that hole deeper and deeper
dig dig dig
can you just make 1 good post?
there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better
keep digging that hole deeper and deeper
I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding
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its not lke our defensive production suffered without jackson.....we actually got better....
lets not over-value him....bowens played better outta place.
another second would be a blessing.[/quote]
we were giving up 126 rushing YPG with DJ
without him.............163
all another 2nd does is put an unproven unknown player on the team its not a blessing
sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless
sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless
so, where else do players come from other than the draft?
even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.
you kill me....lol.
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oh, lets get rid of the guy that has led our team in tackles for 3 straight years, (not including last year). Some Browns fans just dont get it, I've heard too many assnine statement lately.
Maiava?... are you serious?...
Thats a Gigantic drop-off
Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying much
nmills said:
Andra Davis led us in tackles every year to, thats not saying muchHe was solid to say the least, He dropped off so we got rid of him. He had a pretty good season with denver last year. Hes had a great career for a 5th rounder.
By the Way: Jackson is much more talented than Davis. big difference
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there ya go, i had to fix your scewed stats since you appearentley felt the need to just post statst to make miava look better
keep digging that hole deeper and deeper
I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding
nmills said:
I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding100% wrong
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Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson
can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet
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Where did these douchebags come from?
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sounds like you under-value him and show your clueless
so, where else do players come from other than the draft?
even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.
you kill me....lol.
so, where else do players come from other than the draft?
even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.
you kill me....lol.
your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie
by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned
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so, where else do players come from other than the draft?
even more ironic, why not look up which round DQ was drafted in.....ya know, one of those unknown unproven guys that wasn't a household name in college.
you kill me....lol.
your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie
by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned
your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie
by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned
While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".
It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.
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nmills said:
I made it games started because he's a rookie, he barely played until Jackson and Barton went down. Since your such a stat freak look up plays played. Its probably pretty close and we'll have a better understanding100% wrong
and
Miava has almost 300 more plays played then Jackson
can you still make 1 valid point or a good post? i havent seen it yet
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nmills said:
did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all seasonno sorry i dont post like you
i actually do my re-search
you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?
and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury
Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)
Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10
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nmills said:
did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all seasonno sorry i dont post like you
i actually do my re-search
you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?
and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury
Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)
Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10
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your right he was unknown and unproven just like every other single rookie
by your logic every 2nd round pick is going to workout right? owned
While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".
It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.
While you may have good arguments, you just ruin it by saying things like "owned".
It makes you sound childish and stupid. Don't be such a dick, and you'll find that people here won't want to immediately dismiss everything you say.
good for them i guess they always want to be wrong then
i always look up and re-search my post to make sure they are 100% accurate
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Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.
This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.
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nmills said:
did you just make that number up in your head? Id like to see were you got that information. I doubt he played much more that 300 plays all seasonno sorry i dont post like you
i actually do my re-search
you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?
and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury
Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)
Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10
no sorry i dont post like you
i actually do my re-search
you do know our D was being on the field for an average of 53 Plays per game right?
and an average of about 57 after the jackson injury
Miava had a 10 game advantage over Jackson in GP so in about 570 plays (a little more)
Miava may not have started the other 7 but he played alot in those last 10
We had 1072 offensive plays against us last year. I would say Maiva maybe played a third of them plays. which would be a little over 300 plays, so i really dont beleive Maiva played 300 more plays then Jackson.
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Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.
This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.
Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.
This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.
Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?
I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.
I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.
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wow wow wow, cant believe you guys landed Fujita. This was one of parcells favorite players.
Scott has easily 4 years left in him and is one of the best leaders in the NFL. He is also one heck of a nice guy.
I cant tell you what a shock this is to us in N.O. , you landed one of the best all around LB in the NFL, he will be not only a key player on the field but in the locker room and community. Good luck scott , we will really miss you
Saints board in shock
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Wow. This thread has morphed to talk about Grass Stained Ass Jackson? It is amazing to me that he has any fans at all. GSA is the current version of Wali. Certain fans love him (them) because of where he was (they were) drafted and/or because of his (their) stats on a lousy defensive team.
This signing was a good move. GSA Jackson is a special teamer on most NFL rosters.
Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?
I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.
I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.
Why the beef?, Im not mezmorized by Jackson, but hes shown he can start in this league. Every agent right now is bitter because of the uncapped year. Suprisingly its been worse for the players so far. Agents always get a cut, so obviously not giving his agent more money is "utterly ridiculous," it worked for Josh Cribbs right?
I think we need to cool our heads, our Linebacking corps is solid right now. I agree the signing was a great move, I just dont think its an exit for the guy you call "GSA" Jackson. His stats were good, and yes the browns were bad. So what? Hes got instincts, thats hard to find. You can knock him all you want, but were not paying him much with this tender. We'll see how he responds after the injury to pay the man.
I just agree to disagree, i dont care what year he was drafted. The guys brings it everygame and produces. Thats fine in my book. While a 2nd rounder for him would be nice, its probably not going to happen. Thats pretty high for a guy who was injured all last season. The Browns picked that tender for a reason.
Let's see how many sniffs we get at a 2nd round pick from that tender.
Instincts? That's where we differ. How often does Jackson meet the ball carrier at the line of scrimmage? Watch Trusnick. i wish a guy with his instincts had the physical gifts of Jackson.
We agree that instincts are important. i'm afraid that on this player, that is where our agreement ends.
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