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  • H HaydenFox

    Here ya go. Im all for giving ginn a second chance to see if he can turn things around if it costs us a 5th rounder or less but here are some good reasons why the phins have all but given up on him as a receiver for them. He is like their braylon edwards when it comes to the big time dropsies minus the charactar issues. Seen enough of this with braylon. Funny Video with fitting song though!

    @haydenfox said:

    Here ya go. Im all for giving ginn a second chance to see if he can turn things around if it costs us a 5th rounder or less but here are some good reasons why the phins have all but given up on him as a receiver for them. He is like their braylon edwards when it comes to the big time dropsies minus the charactar issues. Seen enough of this with braylon. Funny Video with fitting song though!

    If it weren't for the character issues, Edwards may still be here. After he apparently sucker punched a guy a foot shorter than him is when Randy Lerner said he had enough of him and his act.

  • ThaakT Thaak

    @clebron said:

    He has never been a WR, good return guy in college...that's about it

    He actually had good WR stats in college.

    @thaak said:

    He actually had good WR stats in college.
    He did have good stats, but i attributed that to the long ball and outrunning coverage, I never saw him meet the ball at it's highest point or break in and out of cuts the way a WR should

    I think he's an unbelievable athlete just not a WR, imo

  • C clebron

    @thaak said:

    He actually had good WR stats in college.
    He did have good stats, but i attributed that to the long ball and outrunning coverage, I never saw him meet the ball at it's highest point or break in and out of cuts the way a WR should

    I think he's an unbelievable athlete just not a WR, imo

    @clebron said:

    He did have good stats, but i attributed that to the long ball and outrunning coverage, I never saw him meet the ball at it's highest point or break in and out of cuts the way a WR should

    I think he's an unbelievable athlete just not a WR, imo

    Funny thing is, if you recall, he came to Ohio State more renowned as a defensive back than as a WR.

    (though he might have been like Deion and hated to actually make a tackle. Hard to say. Perhaps a switch in position is in order for him? Hell, we had WR Mike Furrey playing safety for us last year.)

  • I think the kid switched from D to offense because of ball skills and he is a bit frail to be making tackles.

    His legs look like ink pens.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • Lol, if you thought Braylon was bad w/r/t drops, you'll just LOVE Ginn...

  • He's a Niner now so the point has become moot

    edit: traded for a 5th round pick

  • C clebron

    He's a Niner now so the point has become moot

    edit: traded for a 5th round pick

    @clebron said:

    He's a Niner now so the point has become moot

    edit: traded for a 5th round pick

    That's what I thought he'd go for.

  • A 5th is still too much

  • D BoneD D Bone

    A 5th is still too much

    @d-bone said:

    A 5th is still too much

    If you were told that you would draft a WR in the 5th round, and you’d get 36 catches for 460 yards a season, you’d be ecstatic.

    D BoneD 1 Reply

  • And if I drafted him in the 1st rd, I would be looking for work.

    ThaakT 1 Reply

  • Damn we missed out, that would have been a great pick up for a 5th

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
  • D BoneD D Bone

    And if I drafted him in the 1st rd, I would be looking for work.

    @d-bone said:

    And if I drafted him in the 1st rd, I would be looking for work.

    And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?

    Dude, you make no sense.

  • ThaakT Thaak

    @d-bone said:

    And if I drafted him in the 1st rd, I would be looking for work.

    And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?

    Dude, you make no sense.

    @thaak said:

    And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?

    Dude, you make no sense.

    actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.

    once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy
  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife

    @thaak said:

    And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?

    Dude, you make no sense.

    actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.

    But the statement was made in response to whether he was worth a 5th round pick or not.

    He clearly was a steal for the 49ers for a 5th rounder.

    How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?

  • ThaakT Thaak

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.

    But the statement was made in response to whether he was worth a 5th round pick or not.

    He clearly was a steal for the 49ers for a 5th rounder.

    How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?

    @thaak said:

    How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?

    that's a hole other discussion. i wasn't commenting on the 5th round aspect of it. a 5th round pick is decent for a guy with stats like ginn. however, we still don't know how he will produce. it's still possible that it would be the wrong choice to get rid of a 5th rounder for him. probably not though.

    once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy
  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife

    @thaak said:

    How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?

    that's a hole other discussion. i wasn't commenting on the 5th round aspect of it. a 5th round pick is decent for a guy with stats like ginn. however, we still don't know how he will produce. it's still possible that it would be the wrong choice to get rid of a 5th rounder for him. probably not though.

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    that's a hole other discussion. i wasn't commenting on the 5th round aspect of it. a 5th round pick is decent for a guy with stats like ginn. however, we still don't know how he will produce. it's still possible that it would be the wrong choice to get rid of a 5th rounder for him. probably not though.

    But that's what we were discussing. Not that the pick as a 1st rounder was bad.

  • were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.

    With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
    ThaakT C 2 Replies
  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.

    With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant

    nmills said:

    were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.

    With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant

    That is not going to happen.

    We will take a Berry (I hope not—although I am starting to warm up to the idea), Haden (this is my pick if we stay at #7), or trade back for Odrick.

  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.

    With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant

    nmills said:

    were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.

    With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant

    Will bring his QB Zac Robinson with him to

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
  • ThaakT Thaak

    @d-bone said:

    A 5th is still too much

    If you were told that you would draft a WR in the 5th round, and you’d get 36 catches for 460 yards a season, you’d be ecstatic.

    @thaak said:

    If you were told that you would draft a WR in the 5th round, and you’d get 36 catches for 460 yards a season, you’d be ecstatic.

    @thaak said:

    But the statement was made in response to whether he was worth a 5th round pick or not.

    He clearly was a steal for the 49ers for a 5th rounder.

    How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?

    What is your definition of "clearly a steal"? In a pass oriented offense, a good QB can get a walk on 36 catches. Also, his YAC last year was a miserable 1.3yds per catch........He could've just fallen down forward and gained more YAC............Yep, Niners got a steal alright.

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