Ted Ginn, Jr.
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He did have good stats, but i attributed that to the long ball and outrunning coverage, I never saw him meet the ball at it's highest point or break in and out of cuts the way a WR should
I think he's an unbelievable athlete just not a WR, imo
Funny thing is, if you recall, he came to Ohio State more renowned as a defensive back than as a WR.
(though he might have been like Deion and hated to actually make a tackle. Hard to say. Perhaps a switch in position is in order for him? Hell, we had WR Mike Furrey playing safety for us last year.)
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I think the kid switched from D to offense because of ball skills and he is a bit frail to be making tackles.
His legs look like ink pens.
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Damn we missed out, that would have been a great pick up for a 5th
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And if I drafted him in the 1st rd, I would be looking for work.
And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?
Dude, you make no sense.
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And if I drafted him in the 1st rd, I would be looking for work.
And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?
Dude, you make no sense.
And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?
Dude, you make no sense.
actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.
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And so just because he doesn't produce as well as a 1st rounder should, and he was originally picked in the 1st round, he isn’t worth a 5th rounder, even though he outproduced what you’d expect from a 5th rounder?
Dude, you make no sense.
actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.
actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.
But the statement was made in response to whether he was worth a 5th round pick or not.
He clearly was a steal for the 49ers for a 5th rounder.
How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?
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actually, he makes perfect sense. if i work as a buyer for my company, and i buy a high end product that turns out to suck, i would be out of a job. there was a lot of money invested in ginn and very little return on investment.
But the statement was made in response to whether he was worth a 5th round pick or not.
He clearly was a steal for the 49ers for a 5th rounder.
How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?
How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?
that's a hole other discussion. i wasn't commenting on the 5th round aspect of it. a 5th round pick is decent for a guy with stats like ginn. however, we still don't know how he will produce. it's still possible that it would be the wrong choice to get rid of a 5th rounder for him. probably not though.
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How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?
that's a hole other discussion. i wasn't commenting on the 5th round aspect of it. a 5th round pick is decent for a guy with stats like ginn. however, we still don't know how he will produce. it's still possible that it would be the wrong choice to get rid of a 5th rounder for him. probably not though.
that's a hole other discussion. i wasn't commenting on the 5th round aspect of it. a 5th round pick is decent for a guy with stats like ginn. however, we still don't know how he will produce. it's still possible that it would be the wrong choice to get rid of a 5th rounder for him. probably not though.
But that's what we were discussing. Not that the pick as a 1st rounder was bad.
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were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.
With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.
With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant
nmills said:
were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant
That is not going to happen.
We will take a Berry (I hope not—although I am starting to warm up to the idea), Haden (this is my pick if we stay at #7), or trade back for Odrick.
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were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.
With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant
nmills said:
were taking Dez Bryant theres no other way to explain why we wouldnt do this trade. Holmgren said we need to add a receiver, he said this WR class is pretty weak in depth, he backed off on character issues saying he can work with some guys, and now we dont get Ginn for a 5th.With the 7th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, The Cleveland Browns select.....Dez Bryant
Will bring his QB Zac Robinson with him to
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If you were told that you would draft a WR in the 5th round, and you’d get 36 catches for 460 yards a season, you’d be ecstatic.
But the statement was made in response to whether he was worth a 5th round pick or not.
He clearly was a steal for the 49ers for a 5th rounder.
How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?
What is your definition of "clearly a steal"? In a pass oriented offense, a good QB can get a walk on 36 catches. Also, his YAC last year was a miserable 1.3yds per catch........He could've just fallen down forward and gained more YAC............Yep, Niners got a steal alright.
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If you were told that you would draft a WR in the 5th round, and you’d get 36 catches for 460 yards a season, you’d be ecstatic.
But the statement was made in response to whether he was worth a 5th round pick or not.
He clearly was a steal for the 49ers for a 5th rounder.
How does whether Parcells/Irleland making a poor pick and be worth getting fired over have anything to do with his worth as a 5th rounder?
What is your definition of "clearly a steal"? In a pass oriented offense, a good QB can get a walk on 36 catches. Also, his YAC last year was a miserable 1.3yds per catch........He could've just fallen down forward and gained more YAC............Yep, Niners got a steal alright.
What is your definition of "clearly a steal"? In a pass oriented offense, a good QB can get a walk on 36 catches. Also, his YAC last year was a miserable 1.3yds per catch........He could've just fallen down forward and gained more YAC............Yep, Niners got a steal alright.
So I guess you are proving my point even more then. Ginn never had a “good” QB.
Plus his average per catch was 13 yards. With 36 catches, that is just over 2 catches per game. Additionally, he had some runs in there too (end arounds usually result in 0 yards or first downs, and he had quite a few yards). So lets say he averaged 3 first downs a game. That is in addition to being one of the top 10 return men in the NFL.
Everytime he got a touch, he got a first down. That’s pretty good.
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Bout what he should have gone for. Wouldnt even come close to calling it a steal. Worth a chance, yes, depends on what you are trying to get him for. If you need a returner than this it is a good deal. If you are expecting him to be a receiver then probably wont work out very well. Ginn is not an NFL caliber reciever. You might be able to put him on the field a few downs and run the deep ball and use him as a gimmick guy but as a true reciever he is a liability. He has always been an athlete with raw receiving skills that never amounted to much. Glad we passed. I think our front office knows as far as ginn the receiver goes we can do a lot better! Now if we needed a returner then yes he would be worth a 5th but we obviously dont need that.
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