Joe Freakin' Haden
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He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.
He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.
I suppose you're right about him being toast and not "deserving" but a turnover is a turnover and I thought he recovered nicely. Henne helped, for sure, but Haden still had to get position and catch it. Even if it isn't a pick, Haden was showing us a lot of athletic corner play that really looked like a top 10 pick. That's refreshing.
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He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.
I suppose you're right about him being toast and not "deserving" but a turnover is a turnover and I thought he recovered nicely. Henne helped, for sure, but Haden still had to get position and catch it. Even if it isn't a pick, Haden was showing us a lot of athletic corner play that really looked like a top 10 pick. That's refreshing.
I suppose you're right about him being toast and not "deserving" but a turnover is a turnover and I thought he recovered nicely. Henne helped, for sure, but Haden still had to get position and catch it. Even if it isn't a pick, Haden was showing us a lot of athletic corner play that really looked like a top 10 pick. That's refreshing.
I agree with most of what you said except for him recovering. Henne hit him in stride instead of the WR who had 3 steps on him.
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I suppose you're right about him being toast and not "deserving" but a turnover is a turnover and I thought he recovered nicely. Henne helped, for sure, but Haden still had to get position and catch it. Even if it isn't a pick, Haden was showing us a lot of athletic corner play that really looked like a top 10 pick. That's refreshing.
I agree with most of what you said except for him recovering. Henne hit him in stride instead of the WR who had 3 steps on him.
I agree with most of what you said except for him recovering. Henne hit him in stride instead of the WR who had 3 steps on him.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Now that Joe has played a few NFL games, he is starting to get the swagger, and do the things I saw him do at Florida.
Joe changes the way teams play offense.
As good a cover guy as he is, I think the thing that sets him apart is his run support. He knows how to string out plays and run guys out of bounds, and knows how to slip blocks and make tackles.
Joe isn't a big guy, but Mighty Mouse is as tough as nails.
As time goes on, he will start turning it in to a half field gameplan for other teams....whichever side of the field he isn't playing.
That will give us some big advantages.
Give it a few more weeks of this and teams will look for him and adjust from there.....if it isn't already happening.
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I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high
....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high
....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high
....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?
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I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high
....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?
Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?
Hopefully it is, because I am tired of trying to say that Haden is still a good pick. Peoples problem is all the money he is getting, well he's getting money and he is playing good. Deal with it because I highly doubt that if he goes to a pro bowl next year, or keeps on get the INT's this year and wins DROY that anyone is going to be saying that he is a bust.
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Now that Joe has played a few NFL games, he is starting to get the swagger, and do the things I saw him do at Florida.
Joe changes the way teams play offense.
As good a cover guy as he is, I think the thing that sets him apart is his run support. He knows how to string out plays and run guys out of bounds, and knows how to slip blocks and make tackles.
Joe isn't a big guy, but Mighty Mouse is as tough as nails.
As time goes on, he will start turning it in to a half field gameplan for other teams....whichever side of the field he isn't playing.
That will give us some big advantages.
Give it a few more weeks of this and teams will look for him and adjust from there.....if it isn't already happening.
Now that Joe has played a few NFL games, he is starting to get the swagger, and do the things I saw him do at Florida.
Joe changes the way teams play offense.
As good a cover guy as he is, I think the thing that sets him apart is his run support. He knows how to string out plays and run guys out of bounds, and knows how to slip blocks and make tackles.
Joe isn't a big guy, but Mighty Mouse is as tough as nails.
As time goes on, he will start turning it in to a half field gameplan for other teams....whichever side of the field he isn't playing.
That will give us some big advantages.
Give it a few more weeks of this and teams will look for him and adjust from there.....if it isn't already happening.
Yep, couldn't agree more with every word. The swagger, confidence - whatever you call it - is there. Like you mentioned, that was a big part of his game with the Gators and Haden didn't look at all comfortable early this year. That's changed, and quickly. There's growth to be had, no doubt, but the kid has been pretty damn terrific.
Beanpot
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You just have to love the way Haden tackles. VERY solid fundamentals. Maybe he should run the tackling drills.
What surprised me was when I saw a "box" of the game & he had 4 tackles, 1 assist, & an int. I would have SWORN he had more tackles, but whatever the count, he had a great game.
Mike
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I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high
....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?
Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?
judge for yourself
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
You just have to love the way Haden tackles. VERY solid fundamentals. Maybe he should run the tackling drills.
What surprised me was when I saw a "box" of the game & he had 4 tackles, 1 assist, & an int. I would have SWORN he had more tackles, but whatever the count, he had a great game.
Mike
You just have to love the way Haden tackles. VERY solid fundamentals. Maybe he should run the tackling drills.
What surprised me was when I saw a "box" of the game & he had 4 tackles, 1 assist, & an int. I would have SWORN he had more tackles, but whatever the count, he had a great game.
Mike
Me and my roommate said the same thing to each other. We were so sure that he had more tackles that we actually checked both espn and nfl.com. If you think about it though his guy wasn't catching balls because he was either knocking them out of the air of just straight out catching them. He had one special team tackle and the rest were him taking out Browns/Williams legs on the outside run.
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Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?
judge for yourself
judge for yourself
That's the thread I was looking for! All's quite in camp shep now....finally.
Kid shows up....balls skills AND can tackle. Take note EW....this is how u play the position.
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He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.
He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.
Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..
Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me!
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i'm very happy with joes progress, but let's not put him in the pro bowl yet. he got beat on his interception. he just got lucky that henne under threw it.
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The kid has been coming along great. He's got great instincts and if he does make a mistake he's got some wheels that really help make up for it. He's super athletic and I'm glad we took him at that spot in the draft. Imagine our defense without him and you'll agree.
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He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.
Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..
Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me!
Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..
Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me!
Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!
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Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..
Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me!
Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!
Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!
Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.
Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.
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Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!
Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.
Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.Don't forget Antonio Gates in San Diego
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