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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    Now that Joe has played a few NFL games, he is starting to get the swagger, and do the things I saw him do at Florida.

    Joe changes the way teams play offense.

    As good a cover guy as he is, I think the thing that sets him apart is his run support. He knows how to string out plays and run guys out of bounds, and knows how to slip blocks and make tackles.

    Joe isn't a big guy, but Mighty Mouse is as tough as nails.

    As time goes on, he will start turning it in to a half field gameplan for other teams....whichever side of the field he isn't playing.

    That will give us some big advantages.

    Give it a few more weeks of this and teams will look for him and adjust from there.....if it isn't already happening.

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    B Beanpot wrote on last edited by
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    @ballpeen said:

    Now that Joe has played a few NFL games, he is starting to get the swagger, and do the things I saw him do at Florida.

    Joe changes the way teams play offense.

    As good a cover guy as he is, I think the thing that sets him apart is his run support. He knows how to string out plays and run guys out of bounds, and knows how to slip blocks and make tackles.

    Joe isn't a big guy, but Mighty Mouse is as tough as nails.

    As time goes on, he will start turning it in to a half field gameplan for other teams....whichever side of the field he isn't playing.

    That will give us some big advantages.

    Give it a few more weeks of this and teams will look for him and adjust from there.....if it isn't already happening.

    Yep, couldn't agree more with every word. The swagger, confidence - whatever you call it - is there. Like you mentioned, that was a big part of his game with the Gators and Haden didn't look at all comfortable early this year. That's changed, and quickly. There's growth to be had, no doubt, but the kid has been pretty damn terrific.

    Beanpot

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      Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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      You just have to love the way Haden tackles. VERY solid fundamentals. Maybe he should run the tackling drills.

      What surprised me was when I saw a "box" of the game & he had 4 tackles, 1 assist, & an int. I would have SWORN he had more tackles, but whatever the count, he had a great game.

      Mike

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        @clevelandmilidh said:

        I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high πŸ™‚ ....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.

        Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?

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        @pizzadeliveryguy said:

        Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?

        judge for yourself

        http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15033

        1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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        • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

          You just have to love the way Haden tackles. VERY solid fundamentals. Maybe he should run the tackling drills.

          What surprised me was when I saw a "box" of the game & he had 4 tackles, 1 assist, & an int. I would have SWORN he had more tackles, but whatever the count, he had a great game.

          Mike

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          Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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          @canton-mike said:

          You just have to love the way Haden tackles. VERY solid fundamentals. Maybe he should run the tackling drills.

          What surprised me was when I saw a "box" of the game & he had 4 tackles, 1 assist, & an int. I would have SWORN he had more tackles, but whatever the count, he had a great game.

          Mike

          Me and my roommate said the same thing to each other. We were so sure that he had more tackles that we actually checked both espn and nfl.com. If you think about it though his guy wasn't catching balls because he was either knocking them out of the air of just straight out catching them. He had one special team tackle and the rest were him taking out Browns/Williams legs on the outside run.

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          • C CLEVELandMILIDH

            @pizzadeliveryguy said:

            Is this more sarcasm? Clausen?

            judge for yourself

            http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15033

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            chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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            @clevelandmilidh said:

            judge for yourself

            http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15033

            That's the thread I was looking for! All's quite in camp shep now....finally.

            Kid shows up....balls skills AND can tackle. Take note EW....this is how u play the position.

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              He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.

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              GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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              @pizzadeliveryguy said:

              He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.

              Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..

              Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me! πŸ˜‰

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                ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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                i'm very happy with joes progress, but let's not put him in the pro bowl yet. he got beat on his interception. he just got lucky that henne under threw it.

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                  USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                  The kid has been coming along great. He's got great instincts and if he does make a mistake he's got some wheels that really help make up for it. He's super athletic and I'm glad we took him at that spot in the draft. Imagine our defense without him and you'll agree.

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                    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

                    He looked great today but i wouldn't give him too much props for the pick. He was toast on that play and Henne just threw a terrible ball. 90% of NFL QBs throw a TD there. Other than that the kid was outstanding.

                    Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..

                    Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me! πŸ˜‰

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                    B blowe wrote on last edited by
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                    @gips said:

                    Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..

                    Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me! πŸ˜‰

                    Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!

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                      @gips said:

                      Capitalizing on the opponents mistakes counts as props to me, if wright or elam were covering there instead of haden it would have been 6 points or at best a lucky bat down..

                      Yep being a little lucky and both opportunistic and capable of seizing the moment count to me! πŸ˜‰

                      Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!

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                      Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                      @blowe said:

                      Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!

                      Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.

                      Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.

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                      • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

                        @blowe said:

                        Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!

                        Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.

                        Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.

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                        BrownsBackerB BrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                        Hillis-iz-Boss said:

                        Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.

                        Don't forget Antonio Gates in San Diego

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                          Usama Young with the Saints too.

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                          • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

                            @blowe said:

                            Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!

                            Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.

                            Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.

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                            C ClevelandBigDawg wrote on last edited by
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                            Hillis-iz-Boss said:

                            Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.

                            Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.

                            And Lichtensteiger is playing for the Redskins, I believe starting. My math teacher in high school coached Cory Lichtensteiger a few years before he came to my school. I also go to BG, so I focus on this stuff as well.

                            Not Woodhead, Edelman.

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                              I am a little suprised at the Elam hate still going on. Dude has played really well the last half dozen or so games

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                              • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

                                @blowe said:

                                Elam had another int today. Don't hate on Kent State!

                                Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.

                                Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.

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                                Hillis-iz-Boss said:

                                Kent State puts out a very impressive number of good NFL players (or just NFL players in general) compared to other MAC schools. I go to BG and I can't think of anyone who played here that is currently in the NFL. I was kind of hoping the Freddie Barnes panned out with the Bears but he was on the final cut in training camp and the Center that was drafted from here a few years ago as far as I know doesn't play for anyone anymore.

                                Besides Cribbs, Harrison, and Elam from Kent I can also think of the short white guy from the Patriots names Woodhead.

                                Shaun Suisham (kicker) went to BGSU. He played with Dallas for awhile and is doing well for the Steelers. Also, the Chargers center Scott Murkowski played at BGSU. Those are the only two I can think of who are still in the league.

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                                  BodogjoeB Bodogjoe wrote on last edited by
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                                  Finally a high draft pick on Defense is actually working out.

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                                  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife

                                    i'm very happy with joes progress, but let's not put him in the pro bowl yet. he got beat on his interception. he just got lucky that henne under threw it.

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                                    next2nothingN next2nothing wrote on last edited by next2nothing
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                                    @clevelandfanforlife said:

                                    i'm very happy with joes progress, but let's not put him in the pro bowl yet. he got beat on his interception. he just got lucky that henne under threw it.

                                    He did get lucky that Henne played poorly but he was able to recover and make a play when it was presented to him.

                                    That was the difference between him and the Miami corner who was gift-wrapped a pick six by Delhomme in the final minutes and dropped it.

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                                      I disagree that Haden got lucky on his interception. Sure, it appeared he was beat just because Hartline had a few steps on him. But, in order for Henne to hit Hartline in full stride it would have needed to be a 60 yard pass atleast.

                                      Haden bit on Hartline's fake because he didn't believe Henne could hit Hartline in full stride. He dared Henne to have to make an all-world type throw, and Henne couldn't make it. It was a gamble, but a smart and savvy one IMO.

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                                        @clevelandfanforlife said:

                                        i'm very happy with joes progress, but let's not put him in the pro bowl yet. he got beat on his interception. he just got lucky that henne under threw it.

                                        He did get lucky that Henne played poorly but he was able to recover and make a play when it was presented to him.

                                        That was the difference between him and the Miami corner who was gift-wrapped a pick six by Delhomme in the final minutes and dropped it.

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                                        B BROWNandORANGE wrote on last edited by
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                                        @next2nothing said:

                                        He did get lucky that Henne played poorly but he was able to recover and make a play when it was presented to him.

                                        That was the difference between him and the Miami corner who was gift-wrapped a pick six by Delhomme in the final minutes and dropped it.

                                        Yeah, talk about bad hands! Jake should have yelled to him "Sorry, I didn't mean to hit you in the hands!" ... That guy must have felt like a DICK after the game.

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                                        • C CLEVELandMILIDH

                                          I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high πŸ™‚ ....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.

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                                          ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                          @clevelandmilidh said:

                                          I still think it's a bad pick, with Clausen and Bryant still on the board how do you draft a CB top 10. He better be the best CB in the NFL to go that high πŸ™‚ ....Maybe he is, Bryant sure would be nice though.

                                          I know you are just saying this tongue in cheek about Clausen... and half-serious about Bryant... but Bryant just blew out his ankle and who knows how he will recover.

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