Who Would You Take With The First Pick Next Year
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Green or Jones. Later on I would grab McNutt from Iowa, or is it MizzU? I forget. He's big, smart, and plays multiple positions. I want Colt to have two big targets out there next year, both with good hands.
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Sorry for this topic guys i had a poll set up with over 20 players and wanted it to be a poll question but it didnt go through
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We're moving up in the draft (and down in the standings). If we draft 6th or 7th, we can get Green. At 10, it's probably Jones or Blackmon. But I'm pretty certain we'll go WR in a very good WR draft.
Everything else depends on free agency. We have four target positions atop our plan, I bet: WR, DE, RT, and linebacker. We really could use both an ILB (maybe DQJ resigning) and a pass rusher, so make that five targets.
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We're moving up in the draft (and down in the standings). If we draft 6th or 7th, we can get Green. At 10, it's probably Jones or Blackmon. But I'm pretty certain we'll go WR in a very good WR draft.
Everything else depends on free agency. We have four target positions atop our plan, I bet: WR, DE, RT, and linebacker. We really could use both an ILB (maybe DQJ resigning) and a pass rusher, so make that five targets.
We're moving up in the draft (and down in the standings). If we draft 6th or 7th, we can get Green. At 10, it's probably Jones or Blackmon. But I'm pretty certain we'll go WR in a very good WR draft.
Everything else depends on free agency. We have four target positions atop our plan, I bet: WR, DE, RT, and linebacker. We really could use both an ILB (maybe DQJ resigning) and a pass rusher, so make that five targets.
Hillis and McCoy are the future on O. I really like what McCoy shows. Hillis is a grinding power back needed to compete in the cold tough AFC north. You can get a good WR in 3rd round! First 2 picks should be on D. Two impact players on D wins all the close ones the Browns have lost the last couple years. You don't need to build a team to compete with Cincy, you need a tough team like the Steelers and Ravens. Right now the Browns are a good 5-11 team which can take the next step if they draft right.
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Yeah, lots of talk about the Bengals taking Green. That'd really piss me off.
We won't go looking for a #1 WR in round three. That'd be nuts and totally unfair to McCoy. You can take a guy for development there (Taylor Price) or as an additional stretch the field threat (Emmanuel Sanders) or just get lucky (Shipley)... but a team with a gaping hole at #1 WR doesn't go fishing in that pond.
We almost certainly have the worst set of WRs in the entire league. Nobody goes into this draft with a more obvious need at WR than the Browns. We have needs on the front 7, but we also have players (Rubin, Rogers, Coleman, Smith, Schaefering, Fujita, Gocong, Benard, and maybe DQJ). It's not a fully stocked shelf... but it isn't bare, either. I could see the 2nd round and a prime f/a slot going there.
BTW, I really don't think we'll stop with the high pick at WR. We'll also sign a free agent. We're incredibly weak there.
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I cant see the Bengals letting both Ochocinco and TO get away. One of them? Sure(prolly TO), but not both. You dont want to go into a season with your top options at Wide Receivers being Jerome Simpson, Shipley, and Jermaine Greshman, all of who have started like a combined 17(just a guess) games. They are going to need some experience so they will prolly keep Ochocinco. I think Ochocinco is under contract, or there is a team option for this year anyways...
I would put the Rams as a team that really needs a WR too.
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Everything I've read has Julio Jones going to the Browns because many believe Green will be off the board. I'm not a big college football fan and only follow the Panthers in a hit or miss fashion. I've always been a NFL guy that being said I think no matter who you draft the current Coach needs to remain unless Holmgren is going to come out of the box which I sincerely doubt. The team needs some continuity and with a good draft this past season keeping Mangini around will only help with this draft and team moral unless Mangini has completely lost the locker room. I doubt he has. Julio Jones is the pick in my opinion and Mangini needs to say. The great teams in the league avoid the Coaching turnstile. I'd say it's time for the Browns to follow suit.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
I would rather take Blackmon over Jones as Jones has the physical traits that make people wow i believe that blackmon is going to be the better pro, we'll have to wait for the combine but i see Jones running a 4.55 around that area but i would love to have Green he will not be there when we pick give me Blackmon Or Nick Fairley or Marcell Dareus those are my picks but if we take the D in round one we have to try to grab a Jonathan Baldwin or Ryan Broyles in round 2
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Everything I've read has Julio Jones going to the Browns because many believe Green will be off the board. I'm not a big college football fan and only follow the Panthers in a hit or miss fashion. I've always been a NFL guy that being said I think no matter who you draft the current Coach needs to remain unless Holmgren is going to come out of the box which I sincerely doubt. The team needs some continuity and with a good draft this past season keeping Mangini around will only help with this draft and team moral unless Mangini has completely lost the locker room. I doubt he has. Julio Jones is the pick in my opinion and Mangini needs to say. The great teams in the league avoid the Coaching turnstile. I'd say it's time for the Browns to follow suit.
Homotron said:
Everything I've read has Julio Jones going to the Browns because many believe Green will be off the board. I'm not a big college football fan and only follow the Panthers in a hit or miss fashion. I've always been a NFL guy that being said I think no matter who you draft the current Coach needs to remain unless Holmgren is going to come out of the box which I sincerely doubt. The team needs some continuity and with a good draft this past season keeping Mangini around will only help with this draft and team moral unless Mangini has completely lost the locker room. I doubt he has. Julio Jones is the pick in my opinion and Mangini needs to say. The great teams in the league avoid the Coaching turnstile. I'd say it's time for the Browns to follow suit.I can't believe this, but I agree.
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Here is my personal WR Board:
AJ Green (Rd 1)- Think Calvin Johnson
Jonathan Baldwin (Rd 1)- Think a faster Vincent Jackson
Titus Young(Rd 2-3)- Ochocinco/DeSean Jackson Hybrid
Julio Jones(Rd 1-2)- Larry Fitz, with lesser ball skills
Matt Szczur(Rd 3-4)- Think of a cross between Wes Welker and Dexter Mcluster
I think Titus Young is going to surprise people in the NFL much like Ochocinco did being from the second round, I really like that guy, ALOT!!
On Defense, Robert Quinn is the only standout no-brainer
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Yeah, lots of talk about the Bengals taking Green. That'd really piss me off.
We won't go looking for a #1 WR in round three. That'd be nuts and totally unfair to McCoy. You can take a guy for development there (Taylor Price) or as an additional stretch the field threat (Emmanuel Sanders) or just get lucky (Shipley)... but a team with a gaping hole at #1 WR doesn't go fishing in that pond.
We almost certainly have the worst set of WRs in the entire league. Nobody goes into this draft with a more obvious need at WR than the Browns. We have needs on the front 7, but we also have players (Rubin, Rogers, Coleman, Smith, Schaefering, Fujita, Gocong, Benard, and maybe DQJ). It's not a fully stocked shelf... but it isn't bare, either. I could see the 2nd round and a prime f/a slot going there.
BTW, I really don't think we'll stop with the high pick at WR. We'll also sign a free agent. We're incredibly weak there.
Yeah, lots of talk about the Bengals taking Green. That'd really piss me off.
We won't go looking for a #1 WR in round three. That'd be nuts and totally unfair to McCoy. You can take a guy for development there (Taylor Price) or as an additional stretch the field threat (Emmanuel Sanders) or just get lucky (Shipley)... but a team with a gaping hole at #1 WR doesn't go fishing in that pond.
We almost certainly have the worst set of WRs in the entire league. Nobody goes into this draft with a more obvious need at WR than the Browns. We have needs on the front 7, but we also have players (Rubin, Rogers, Coleman, Smith, Schaefering, Fujita, Gocong, Benard, and maybe DQJ). It's not a fully stocked shelf... but it isn't bare, either. I could see the 2nd round and a prime f/a slot going there.
BTW, I really don't think we'll stop with the high pick at WR. We'll also sign a free agent. We're incredibly weak there.
Rogers and Coleman will be 32 next year, Smith will be 34 and has been on IR all year. That leaves Rubin and who? The oldest receiver on the team is Stuckey at 27, D-line is a must right now. Our young WR's have shown there getting better and its only their 2nd year. This team is being built to win long term. The long term receiver situation looks promising, long term d-line situation looks retired. My money says were drafting D-line 1st rd.
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Yeah, lots of talk about the Bengals taking Green. That'd really piss me off.
We won't go looking for a #1 WR in round three. That'd be nuts and totally unfair to McCoy. You can take a guy for development there (Taylor Price) or as an additional stretch the field threat (Emmanuel Sanders) or just get lucky (Shipley)... but a team with a gaping hole at #1 WR doesn't go fishing in that pond.
We almost certainly have the worst set of WRs in the entire league. Nobody goes into this draft with a more obvious need at WR than the Browns. We have needs on the front 7, but we also have players (Rubin, Rogers, Coleman, Smith, Schaefering, Fujita, Gocong, Benard, and maybe DQJ). It's not a fully stocked shelf... but it isn't bare, either. I could see the 2nd round and a prime f/a slot going there.
BTW, I really don't think we'll stop with the high pick at WR. We'll also sign a free agent. We're incredibly weak there.
Rogers and Coleman will be 32 next year, Smith will be 34 and has been on IR all year. That leaves Rubin and who? The oldest receiver on the team is Stuckey at 27, D-line is a must right now. Our young WR's have shown there getting better and its only their 2nd year. This team is being built to win long term. The long term receiver situation looks promising, long term d-line situation looks retired. My money says were drafting D-line 1st rd.
Rogers and Coleman will be 32 next year, Smith will be 34 and has been on IR all year. That leaves Rubin and who? The oldest receiver on the team is Stuckey at 27, D-line is a must right now. Our young WR's have shown there getting better and its only their 2nd year. This team is being built to win long term. The long term receiver situation looks promising, long term d-line situation looks retired. My money says were drafting D-line 1st rd.
That makes some sense..after Green, I don't think any receiver is top 10 material.
At this point i haven't really focused on who we might pick....i usually wait until people have to declare so I am not talking about people who won't even be available at any pick.
We also have to know who will be coaching, as that impacts matters.
I do know Heckert has done a nice job in previous drafts, and seems to understand line play is pretty important.
I wouldn't be shocked, or disappointed for that matter, if we selected a O or D lineman.....if not QB, but that is another debate.
My feeling is QB's do more for receivers then do receivers for QB's....and QB's can't do much if the line is porous.....a big monster at RT would do wonders for our O, but at this point I don't know if anybody is good enough for that high a pick.
In the end, with a building team such as us, I am not a needs picker. Take the best football player you can in round 1 and look for need in round 2....after that BPA is the road to building a solid team.
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To me our two huge problems other than receiver are stopping the run and pass blocking at RT.
We have missed Robaire a lot and when you miss a 34 year old defensive lineman that is a bad sign. This is supposed to be a deep draft for defensive linemen. My dream draft would be to start with a good free agent receiver then add two defensive linemen and a right tackle in the first three rounds. Yeah we need another linebacker and if there is someone with better value than the next available dl it would be fine with me.
After that I would look to add DB, RB, QB, OL best value picks. Holmgren always takes a qb
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For obvious reason i didnt put Luck on here because he wont be available as well as alot of these guys wont like i believe A.J. Green will be gone so im sure he'll grab all these votes but more than likely he will not be there...But if you had the decision who would you draft and why you can even throw in a second round selection if you'd like...Im going Justin Blackmon or Marcel Dareus because i believe they'll be there when we select and Green wont
For obvious reason i didnt put Luck on here because he wont be available as well as alot of these guys wont like i believe A.J. Green will be gone so im sure he'll grab all these votes but more than likely he will not be there...But if you had the decision who would you draft and why you can even throw in a second round selection if you'd like...Im going Justin Blackmon or Marcel Dareus because i believe they'll be there when we select and Green wont
Yah, I bet Green will be gone. I would pick the first large durable looking (two games each against Pgh and Balt defenses yearly) WR. That would be Julio Jones, 6'4" and 211.
Second round, DL good against the run. don't know who.
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OFFENSE OFFENSE AND MORE OFFENSE
Great thread so far
We have none and McCoy needs some tools and Offense wins Championships
I like the Green and Jones thinking. I would also look for a RB because Hardesty has been injured two years in row and we have nothing behind Hillis and his running style makes me think his production will never get any better than this year.
Offense Skill players round 1 and 2 and maybe 3.
If we are staying 3-4 a LB is imperative in round 3 or 4
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