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  • DawgTracker D
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    D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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    I would expect Ryan to be successful in dallas with their defensive talent

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      B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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      I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.

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        Say, I think I like the idea...

        http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_f...h_jauron_1.html

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        @calfoxwc said:

        Say, I think I like the idea...

        http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_f...h_jauron_1.html

        Yeah, and he's got ties to Holmgren too.

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        Not a bad idea at all- bring in a real experienced coordinator (who's had HC experience) to mentor the rookie HC. There's some guys who are great coordinators who were lousy head coaches. Dick LeBeau anyone?

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          I can see it making sense with his experince and that Shurmur is so young, but i really hope we dont translate back into a 4-3 defense its hard enough with personal around that we do have we need to fill major holes, unless you put Rubin and Rogers at DTs and Then Matt Roth as a DE i dono if he could then who would are other end be?Scott Fujita outside line whos can play Mike middle linebacker unless we Retain D'Q, i dono it'd be hard to put some peices together to make it work...i do like the 3-4 and hope whoever they bring in wants to continue with that scheme

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            N Nw220 wrote on last edited by
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            And btw Rob Ryan is gonna have great sucess with that defense to work with Wares going to cause havok with blitz schemes its gonna make us look bad but we just dont have the talent that Dallas does on D

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            • B bringbackbrownie2

              I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.

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              @bringbackbrownie2 said:

              I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. [We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.]

              the Browns have run the 3-4 since they came back in 1999,what have they won with it?Its time for the 4-3. New coach new defense!

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                @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. [We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.]

                the Browns have run the 3-4 since they came back in 1999,what have they won with it?Its time for the 4-3. New coach new defense!

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                BrownB499B BrownB499 wrote on last edited by
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                @7moses7 said:

                the Browns have run the 3-4 since they came back in 1999,what have they won with it?Its time for the 4-3. New coach new defense!

                The 3-4 started with RAC

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                  ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                  Lety me take a wild guess that Dick Jauron also shares the same agent as Holmgren ...

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                  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

                    Lety me take a wild guess that Dick Jauron also shares the same agent as Holmgren ...

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                    @atenears said:

                    Lety me take a wild guess that Dick Jauron also shares the same agent as Holmgren ...

                    According to this, it doesn't look so.....at least for now.

                    http://www.psr-inc.net/

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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                      Our defensive front 7 needs to be revamped anyways and if we were ever going to go back to a 4-3 now would be the time..

                      Ryan lined our guys up 4-3 quite a bit and they all have various 4-3 experience so i dont really have a problem with switching, both defenses have their ups and downs and we currently lack the necessary personnel to run either efficiently or even through the course of a season due to age injuries..

                      We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                      • B bringbackbrownie2

                        I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.

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                        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                        @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                        I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.

                        So having 4 guys rushing won't be better then 3?

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                        • D DawgTracker

                          I would expect Ryan to be successful in dallas with their defensive talent

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                          ITHIKAI ITHIKA wrote on last edited by
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                          @dawgtracker said:

                          I would expect Ryan to be successful in dallas with their defensive talent

                          I'll go one step further and say they will have a top 5 defense next season.

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                            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                            it all points towards a 4-3. Holmgren and Heck came from teams that generally played that scheme, and the DCs being mentioned play the same.

                            All of that also seems to point towards a Dlineman taken with the first pick since we are weak at the position, and thin at the position.

                            One of Fairley, Bowers, Dareus, or a name not mentioned much, Aldon Smith would fit well on a 4-3 line.

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                              chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                              Lol....wow, this is getting sad. Jauron has such invaluable experience commanding the one team the browns have been consistently better than since we returned. Awesome.....

                              Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya

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                                Lol....wow, this is getting sad. Jauron has such invaluable experience commanding the one team the browns have been consistently better than since we returned. Awesome.....

                                Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya

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                                RavensFan1996R RavensFan1996 wrote on last edited by
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                                @choco said:

                                Lol....wow, this is getting sad. Jauron has such invaluable experience commanding the one team the browns have been consistently better than since we returned. Awesome.....

                                Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya

                                True, but the Haloti Ngata's and the Kelly Gregg's of the world are hard to find.

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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  Say, I think I like the idea...

                                  http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_f...h_jauron_1.html

                                  Yeah, and he's got ties to Holmgren too.

                                  Wiki Link

                                  Not a bad idea at all- bring in a real experienced coordinator (who's had HC experience) to mentor the rookie HC. There's some guys who are great coordinators who were lousy head coaches. Dick LeBeau anyone?

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                                  slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by slowburn
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                                  @hoorta said:

                                  Yeah, and he's got ties to Holmgren too.

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                                  Not a bad idea at all- bring in a real experienced coordinator (who's had HC experience) to mentor the rookie HC. There's some guys who are great coordinators who were lousy head coaches. Dick LeBeau anyone?

                                  Don't forget:

                                  1. Mike Nolan (MIA)

                                  2. Romeo Crennel (KC)

                                  3. Jim Hasslet (WAS)

                                  4. Rod Marinelli (Bears)

                                  5. Gunther Cunningham (DET)

                                  6. Dom Capers (GB)

                                  Some have had better success than others. Three of these coaches fielded playoff teams this year. Romeo has five Super Bowl rings from his defensive coaching efforts. Valid argument regarding coaches finding their niche. Could Mangini be joining this list in the future? JTIOT

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                                    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

                                    I think jauron is a good coach, but I will be praying that we stick with a 3-4. We have no pass rush and switching to a 4-3 would make it that much more blatantly obvious.

                                    So having 4 guys rushing won't be better then 3?

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                                    B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @kosar_for_president said:

                                    So having 4 guys rushing won't be better then 3?

                                    not when Rubin is your only DT with talent... then we are down 3 lineman and still have 0 pass rushers...

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                                      Our defensive front 7 needs to be revamped anyways and if we were ever going to go back to a 4-3 now would be the time..

                                      Ryan lined our guys up 4-3 quite a bit and they all have various 4-3 experience so i dont really have a problem with switching, both defenses have their ups and downs and we currently lack the necessary personnel to run either efficiently or even through the course of a season due to age injuries..

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                                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                      @gips said:

                                      Our defensive front 7 needs to be revamped anyways and if we were ever going to go back to a 4-3 now would be the time..

                                      Ryan lined our guys up 4-3 quite a bit and they all have various 4-3 experience so i dont really have a problem with switching, both defenses have their ups and downs and we currently lack the necessary personnel to run either efficiently or even through the course of a season due to age injuries..

                                      TICK TOCK. TICK TOCK.

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                                        @choco said:

                                        Lol....wow, this is getting sad. Jauron has such invaluable experience commanding the one team the browns have been consistently better than since we returned. Awesome.....

                                        Back to the 4-3....awesome. we get to run the antiquated defense that's predictable and has been going the way of the dodo. I like the arguments for the switch tho.....its obvious that's that we have all the right personnel to run it.....its not like the best defenses in the league are 3-4 (6 of 10), with 5 of which made the playoffs. Jaurons defenses were awesome in Buffalo...lemme tell ya

                                        True, but the Haloti Ngata's and the Kelly Gregg's of the world are hard to find.

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                                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                        @ravensfan1996 said:

                                        True, but the Haloti Ngata's and the Kelly Gregg's of the world are hard to find.

                                        Just to remind you the Browns could have taken Ngata instead of Kameron Wimbley. Could be why the Ravens have a great defense, and the Browns stink. OTOH, we may have found a keeper NT in Rubin- we shall see.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          Why does a defense have to choose ? I mean, why not draft some freakin SMART defensive front seven, who can play both WELL,

                                          and PLAY either one, off and on, depending on situations and personel matchups?

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