Terrelle Pryor Exiting Osu Amid Scandal
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mikeyP72 said:
Right, but your company doesn't get government or industry sanctions or negative press because their employee got a DUI?
You do, because you f!cked up.
See what I mean?
Also- I would consider selling their own personal items (jerseys and team gear), outside of the school. They broke an NCAA rule, not the University. Tressel did find out about it, handled it, and tried to cover it up and Tressel is gone because of it. With good reason. Regardless of the validity of the rule, which sucks, Tressel broke a rule that he signed paperwork for claiming he was adhering to. That is a crime and he was suspended for it and eventually resigned to avoid further punishment and possible firing down the road.
What else deserves to be done to the University? I can't imagine a rationale for anything further.
Take away the 2002 National Championship? HA, no. Take away the Sugar Bowl win last year? Maybe. The players were breaking rules and still allowed to play - HOWEVER, if the NCAA strips OSU of that victory they are TOTAL AND COMPLETE HYPOCRITES. Their ruling allowed those kids to play in that game AFTER the allegations and punishments were known. The 5 game suspension was enacted before the Sugar Bowl. To punish OSU after-the-fact is a JOKE.
Then throw in possibly for fitting the Rose Bowl vs Oregon. That is another option since all of this was likely going on during that.
Big Ten championships will also likely be on the line too as well as the season wins over the last 3 years.
100%
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mikeyP72 said:
Maybe u should lay off the day drinking, how about it...? maybe for a little while?
blasphemy!!
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All in all good points. It's nice to have a civil discussion about topics here. But my final point is that I did find it humorous that saying Ohio State is running a clean program after that has happened.
I'll keep my opinions and you can keep yours.
Fun discussion
All in all good points. It's nice to have a civil discussion about topics here. But my final point is that I did find it humorous that saying Ohio State is running a clean program after that has happened.
I'll keep my opinions and you can keep yours.
Fun discussion
I said "comparatively" clean.
And I still think it is true. Tressel's rule violation was passive..."not reporting" when he should have.
In street parlance he would have been a hero for not snitching.
Other schools are no doubt commiting much more active violations by paying players. More serious, not as clean, but much harder to catch.
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All in all good points. It's nice to have a civil discussion about topics here. But my final point is that I did find it humorous that saying Ohio State is running a clean program after that has happened.
I'll keep my opinions and you can keep yours.
Fun discussion
All in all good points. It's nice to have a civil discussion about topics here. But my final point is that I did find it humorous that saying Ohio State is running a clean program after that has happened.
I'll keep my opinions and you can keep yours.
Fun discussion
I said "comparatively" clean.
And I still think it is true. Tressel's rule violation was passive..."not reporting" when he should have.
In street parlance he would have been a hero for not snitching.
Other schools are no doubt commiting much more active violations by paying players. More serious, not as clean, but much harder to catch.
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No doubt, as one of the gang, he would be considered a stand up guy. But, i feel, in his role as moral compass and mentor for his players he sorely failed.
Heavy lays the crown.
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It is a tough situation for the guy. I feel bad for the way things went down. But ultimately they broke the rules and it gives a black eye to all just by association. Which isn't always fair.
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Not to be a dick, but on what basis? They just got freaking busted and you're saying they are one of the cleaner programs? Please explain... and don't forget to pass around whatever you're smoking.
Here is why: because these kids, in order to get money had to sell their trinkets. The kids in many or most other programs in the country don't have to sell their trinkets to get money because they are being given money hand over fist under the table. It was the act of selling their paraphenalia that got the program in trouble. No sale of paraphenalia, no trouble. Paraphenalia selling leaves a trail that straight cash in hand doesn't.
And what I am smoking is 30 years of legal experience and 20 years of judicial experience and any prosecutor will tell you that to prove your case you need documentable evidence. Leaving this trail of trinket selling gave the documentable evidence that straight cash deals don't give.
Raise your hand if you are gullible enough to not believe the truth of this.
Here is why: because these kids, in order to get money had to sell their trinkets. The kids in many or most other programs in the country don't have to sell their trinkets to get money because they are being given money hand over fist under the table.
You might want to provide your proof to the NCAA.
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Here is why: because these kids, in order to get money had to sell their trinkets. The kids in many or most other programs in the country don't have to sell their trinkets to get money because they are being given money hand over fist under the table.
You might want to provide your proof to the NCAA.
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The thing that pisses me off the most about this is that Pryor's agent had the nerve to say that NCAA is like slavery. Now to me this crossed the line and showed how idiotic they both are. First of all, how many slaves got $100,000++ scholarships to college and all expenses paid (food, books, dorms). Yeah just like football players calling the NFL slavery too, when they make MILLIONS. Apparently in this day and age, race has to be brought up in every situation. Lebron shits on the city of Cleveland, so everyone who hates him is a racist. Pryor got busted for doing something stupid, NCAA is racist. NFL players getting paid millions, racist.
Makes a whole lot of sense to me...if Tim Tebow would have done the same thing, he would face the same penalties.
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The thing that pisses me off the most about this is that Pryor's agent had the nerve to say that NCAA is like slavery. Now to me this crossed the line and showed how idiotic they both are. First of all, how many slaves got $100,000++ scholarships to college and all expenses paid (food, books, dorms). Yeah just like football players calling the NFL slavery too, when they make MILLIONS. Apparently in this day and age, race has to be brought up in every situation. Lebron shits on the city of Cleveland, so everyone who hates him is a racist. Pryor got busted for doing something stupid, NCAA is racist. NFL players getting paid millions, racist.
Makes a whole lot of sense to me...if Tim Tebow would have done the same thing, he would face the same penalties.
The thing that pisses me off the most about this is that Pryor's agent had the nerve to say that NCAA is like slavery. Now to me this crossed the line and showed how idiotic they both are. First of all, how many slaves got $100,000++ scholarships to college and all expenses paid (food, books, dorms). Yeah just like football players calling the NFL slavery too, when they make MILLIONS. Apparently in this day and age, race has to be brought up in every situation. Lebron shits on the city of Cleveland, so everyone who hates him is a racist. Pryor got busted for doing something stupid, NCAA is racist. NFL players getting paid millions, racist.
Makes a whole lot of sense to me...if Tim Tebow would have done the same thing, he would face the same penalties.
There is a solution to that: the NFL or the NCAA can simply tell these guys: "fine, you believe this is like slavery? You are free to pursue your life and your career wherever it makes you happy. We absolve any and all connection with you. Go out in the world and make whatever you want of yourself. You just are not going to do it here.
You are Free. Scream it from the Mountaintops."
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mikeyP72 said:
Sounds good
I'll admit I've jumped on the bandwaggon of hating USC and laughing as their sanctions and turmoil flared up. I guess I can understand- A LOT of people are happy OSU is in this situation. It comes with the territory. No one likes the Buckeyes, in the press, or anywhere for that matter. For some reason everyone hates Ohio. It will be easy to pile on top of the Bucks.
It's all opinions too like you said. None of us are lawyers (well maybe Gipper is) or actually deal in NCAA bylaws. None of us are in these decision making positions, none of us are in these guys shoes while they're in school being promised the world and given handouts left and right. I know for certain that it would be hard for me to turn down the stuff... I probably would have been A LOT less blatant and smarter about it... Why be flamboyant and expect not to get caught?
Have you watched ESPN the last few years?? Their Buckeye love is sickening, reason why a lot of people hate them. Sick of hearing how "great" Osu is
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mikeyP72 said:
Sounds good
I'll admit I've jumped on the bandwaggon of hating USC and laughing as their sanctions and turmoil flared up. I guess I can understand- A LOT of people are happy OSU is in this situation. It comes with the territory. No one likes the Buckeyes, in the press, or anywhere for that matter. For some reason everyone hates Ohio. It will be easy to pile on top of the Bucks.
It's all opinions too like you said. None of us are lawyers (well maybe Gipper is) or actually deal in NCAA bylaws. None of us are in these decision making positions, none of us are in these guys shoes while they're in school being promised the world and given handouts left and right. I know for certain that it would be hard for me to turn down the stuff... I probably would have been A LOT less blatant and smarter about it... Why be flamboyant and expect not to get caught?
Have you watched ESPN the last few years?? Their Buckeye love is sickening, reason why a lot of people hate them. Sick of hearing how "great" Osu is
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mikeyP72 said:
Sounds good
I'll admit I've jumped on the bandwaggon of hating USC and laughing as their sanctions and turmoil flared up. I guess I can understand- A LOT of people are happy OSU is in this situation. It comes with the territory. No one likes the Buckeyes, in the press, or anywhere for that matter. For some reason everyone hates Ohio. It will be easy to pile on top of the Bucks.
It's all opinions too like you said. None of us are lawyers (well maybe Gipper is) or actually deal in NCAA bylaws. None of us are in these decision making positions, none of us are in these guys shoes while they're in school being promised the world and given handouts left and right. I know for certain that it would be hard for me to turn down the stuff... I probably would have been A LOT less blatant and smarter about it... Why be flamboyant and expect not to get caught?
Have you watched ESPN the last few years?? Their Buckeye love is sickening, reason why a lot of people hate them. Sick of hearing how "great" Osu is
Have you watched ESPN the last few years?? Their Buckeye love is sickening, reason why a lot of people hate them. Sick of hearing how "great" Osu is
Jeez....Mark May hates the Buckeyes. I guess you never noticed?
He hates OSU, Notre Dame, & Michigan, just to be clear.
Karlis Missed -
Kirk Herbstreet is the biggest buckeye hater of all time... and he xxxxing played for them!
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Kirk Herbstreet is the biggest buckeye hater of all time... and he xxxxing played for them!
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Kirk Herbstreet is the biggest buckeye hater of all time... and he xxxxing played for them!
Wrong. He is the most objective one of the whole ESPN crew. Just because he doesn't swallow the OSU Kool Aid you guys hate him.
Irony.
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Kirk Herbstreet is the biggest buckeye hater of all time... and he xxxxing played for them!
Wrong. He is the most objective one of the whole ESPN crew. Just because he doesn't swallow the OSU Kool Aid you guys hate him.
Irony.
Wrong. He is the most objective one of the whole ESPN crew. Just because he doesn't swallow the OSU Kool Aid you guys hate him.
Irony.
Anytime OSU plays somebody in the top 25, he says they are going to lose. He is the first person to say that OSU is going to get upset, to lose a bowl game, ect. There is being overly objective to make it seem like you not rooting for your amla mater and then there is literally shitting on them every week on National TV regardless of the opponent. Lee Corso picks the Bucks to win more than Kirk does.
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Kirk Herbstreet is the biggest buckeye hater of all time... and he xxxxing played for them!
Wrong. He is the most objective one of the whole ESPN crew. Just because he doesn't swallow the OSU Kool Aid you guys hate him.
Irony.
Just because he doesn't swallow the OSU Kool Aid
Wrong. Let Ramzy of the awesome 11Warriors describe:
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/05/concrete-blonde
"Herbstreit has been castigated wholesale by his own because he repeatedly speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Each and every time he is called out for that hypocrisy he has trashed the Ohio State fan base with the same strawman defense that you (people like BigBrownsFan above) keep swilling down without any critical thought whatsoever."
And to those of you who still believe ESPN is "unbiased" vs Ohio State, read the following link:
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Wrong. He is the most objective one of the whole ESPN crew. Just because he doesn't swallow the OSU Kool Aid you guys hate him.
Irony.
Anytime OSU plays somebody in the top 25, he says they are going to lose. He is the first person to say that OSU is going to get upset, to lose a bowl game, ect. There is being overly objective to make it seem like you not rooting for your amla mater and then there is literally shitting on them every week on National TV regardless of the opponent. Lee Corso picks the Bucks to win more than Kirk does.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Anytime OSU plays somebody in the top 25, he says they are going to lose.
not for nothing but they usually do lose. they can't play SFU every week (sorry browns sfu fan). one tough cream puff in a season? pleez, love the bucks but no respect there.
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Anytime OSU plays somebody in the top 25, he says they are going to lose.
not for nothing but they usually do lose. they can't play SFU every week (sorry browns sfu fan). one tough cream puff in a season? pleez, love the bucks but no respect there.
not for nothing but they usually do lose. they can't play SFU every week (sorry browns sfu fan). one tough cream puff in a season? pleez, love the bucks but no respect there.
Umm then why were they 21 and 14 when playing teams who finished the season in the top 25 since Tressel took over as coach. Ya they were a 8 and 10 in that time against teams in the top 10, but those are the teams where it is supposed to be a very close game. His record against teams finishing 11-25 is 17-4 yet everytime OSU plays one of those team Herbstreat calls for OSU to lose, probably because he never really managed to accomplish anything himself when he played there and doesn't want them to accomplish anything now.
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Jeez....Mark May hates the Buckeyes. I guess you never noticed?
He hates OSU, Notre Dame, & Michigan, just to be clear.
His "hate" of OSU, ND, and Mich. is simply a manifestation of his inferiority complex by having gone to Pitt. I suspect those other schools didn't think enough of his talents to try to recruit him, and he maintains that grudge.
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