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  • Mangini was fired for not winning enough..So is 5-11 acceptable this year..4-12..6-10?...Whats the number?

    Squawking from the locker room..What makes you think this could not implode?

    Considering 4 of the last five games involve Ravens and Steelers..UGH..We better have good team chemisrtry or its about to get very ugly.

  • You guys miss the point...

    Let me spell it out for you. I don't like the free agents this team has brought in over the last two years. Terrible! Fujita, delhomo, paterson, jackson and osama young, also throw in Pashos to that..

    What i would have liked them to do is yes, bring in one play maker. Steve Breaston has started to come on this year. Bring in some descent oline help.

    We resigned j mitchell who is terrible and we gave a bunch of money to Gocong..

    Now lets start talking about the draft. Lets give em that haden and ward from last year were good picks. After that, who? Dont tell me since lauvao is starting he is a good pick. Where are the diamonds in the rough? Where are the picks rd 4-7???? Oh yeah there either in active every week or on another teams roster.

    You guys just dont get it. I dont see the Browns making the strides through the draft that will make them competitive.. We look slow and un talented.

    Say what you want about MY Yankees, but at least they try to win. Now that said baseball and football are different. Eventually perception becomes reality!

    @wrrebel said:

    You guys miss the point...

    Let me spell it out for you. I don't like the free agents this team has brought in over the last two years. Terrible! Fujita, delhomo, paterson, jackson and osama young, also throw in Pashos to that..

    What i would have liked them to do is yes, bring in one play maker. Steve Breaston has started to come on this year. Bring in some descent oline help.

    We resigned j mitchell who is terrible and we gave a bunch of money to Gocong..

    Now lets start talking about the draft. Lets give em that haden and ward from last year were good picks. After that, who? Dont tell me since lauvao is starting he is a good pick. Where are the diamonds in the rough? Where are the picks rd 4-7???? Oh yeah there either in active every week or on another teams roster.

    You guys just dont get it. I dont see the Browns making the strides through the draft that will make them competitive.. We look slow and un talented.

    Say what you want about MY Yankees, but at least they try to win. Now that said baseball and football are different. Eventually perception becomes reality!

    So are you saying, the Tribe or any other team is not TRYING TO WIN because they do not have a 200 million dollar payroll, cause if you are..thats one arguement you will lose...

    I can see your point about a Wide-out, but our F.O knows what they are doing..Every teams draft picks all do not go to the pro bowl, sorry it just does not happen..

    Herkett has had a great draft picks over the last 2 years...

    In 2012 I think they are going to draft more defense with our first two picks also, then they are going to piss every OSU hater off, by picking Haren and Posey in the 3rd and 4th round...OH that will chap some peoples ass!!!!! This board might explode....LOL

  • @wrrebel said:

    You guys miss the point...

    Let me spell it out for you. I don't like the free agents this team has brought in over the last two years. Terrible! Fujita, delhomo, paterson, jackson and osama young, also throw in Pashos to that..

    What i would have liked them to do is yes, bring in one play maker. Steve Breaston has started to come on this year. Bring in some descent oline help.

    We resigned j mitchell who is terrible and we gave a bunch of money to Gocong..

    Now lets start talking about the draft. Lets give em that haden and ward from last year were good picks. After that, who? Dont tell me since lauvao is starting he is a good pick. Where are the diamonds in the rough? Where are the picks rd 4-7???? Oh yeah there either in active every week or on another teams roster.

    You guys just dont get it. I dont see the Browns making the strides through the draft that will make them competitive.. We look slow and un talented.

    Say what you want about MY Yankees, but at least they try to win. Now that said baseball and football are different. Eventually perception becomes reality!

    So are you saying, the Tribe or any other team is not TRYING TO WIN because they do not have a 200 million dollar payroll, cause if you are..thats one arguement you will lose...

    I can see your point about a Wide-out, but our F.O knows what they are doing..Every teams draft picks all do not go to the pro bowl, sorry it just does not happen..

    Herkett has had a great draft picks over the last 2 years...

    In 2012 I think they are going to draft more defense with our first two picks also, then they are going to piss every OSU hater off, by picking Haren and Posey in the 3rd and 4th round...OH that will chap some peoples ass!!!!! This board might explode....LOL

    @tampadawgs said:

    So are you saying, the Tribe or any other team is not TRYING TO WIN because they do not have a 200 million dollar payroll, cause if you are..thats one arguement you will lose...

    I can see your point about a Wide-out, but our F.O knows what they are doing..Every teams draft picks all do not go to the pro bowl, sorry it just does not happen..

    Herkett has had a great draft picks over the last 2 years...

    In 2012 I think they are going to draft more defense with our first two picks also, then they are going to piss every OSU hater off, by picking Haren and Posey in the 3rd and 4th round...OH that will chap some peoples ass!!!!! This board might explode....LOL

    No dude!

    But you look around NFL teams, take emotions out of it. Cause obviously us all being passionate Browns fans fog our judgement one way or another. I have lots of friends and follow other teams on different boards. They even have the perception that the Browns arent doing enough, via the draft or free agency..

    I beleive we will see who is right once it all plays out. Lets forget about this year since all of you who support the FO say that..

    What can i expect next year??? When we still blow.. Will you guys who support the FO come around or will you stay the course??

    See i can admitt when im wrong, but unfortantely i dont think im going to be wrong..

  • i think its you missing the point....by a mile....

    those FA you dont like we brought here to occupy the positions until we gets people drafted....not to be top of their position. this may be players of less ability, but also of a much lesser price tag. get that thru your thick skull....while you see no problem with compromising the future cap to "win now" (lmao), those of superior football intelligence decided the opposite so we can lock up our young talent with upside. this includes 2 1st round picks next year.

    youre sick of losing....we get that. but what you are suggesting has been proven to be ineffective in the long term. this is a fact and supported by many long term winners. do you not get that? does the failing of the redskins over the years just not sink in? if you really are sick of losing and want something more than the fluke 2007 season, then simply shut up and watch how building thru the draft is done. its what we need....but then again, it seems like u think every draft pick should be playing like a probowler from day one...and if they dont, its a failure. if you dont see how utterly ridiculous this is, then ill just agree to disagree.

    yes...ill bag on your yankees. their the poster child franchise of trying to buy a winner. some years its worked, and theyre always competitive. yet,2 teams that build thru their farm system and make SMART FA signings are stillplaying while jeter and arod are moping around the house. texas went back without cliff lee. the evidence is all around you,you just cant see it cause youre up to your eye lids in bullshit.

  • Come on dude jeter is a god..

    Don't knock jete! He is the kalamazoo kid. From our farm system by the way. He has 5 rings and had minka kelly.. I don't know which one I would want more his rings, minka kelly or his cock? Wait does that make me gay??

    Arod is a homo...

  • Oh yeah I forgot, carpenter furcal, holliday, berkman.... ect......... didn't come from the cards farm system..

    Beltra??? Nelson cruz?? Napoli????

    Dude if ur gonna debate facts at least no some..

  • As much as I hate the Spankees, I will admit that Jeter is the Man...That being said his best yrs are behind him, but we all know that...

    I was really hope someone was going to say the Yankees want to win more cause they spend more!!! I just did a report for the Rays broadcast team about wanting to win more means spend more. Well lets just say, facts are facts of what each city and each team can and can not do

  • As much as I hate the Spankees, I will admit that Jeter is the Man...That being said his best yrs are behind him, but we all know that...

    I was really hope someone was going to say the Yankees want to win more cause they spend more!!! I just did a report for the Rays broadcast team about wanting to win more means spend more. Well lets just say, facts are facts of what each city and each team can and can not do

    @tampadawgs said:

    As much as I hate the Spankees, I will admit that Jeter is the Man...That being said his best yrs are behind him, but we all know that...

    I was really hope someone was going to say the Yankees want to win more cause they spend more!!! I just did a report for the Rays broadcast team about wanting to win more means spend more. Well lets just say, facts are facts of what each city and each team can and can not do

    For most cities that is true.

    But there are owners who are holding out on there teams and fans. You look at the Astros ownerm he dwarfs the steinbrenners in terms of wealth. Why not invest into there team? Toronto also has a wealthy owners..

    Jeter is on the down side, but i would still do him

  • You all do realize we are 30 million under the cap this year..We could have brought in some WCO help.

    Austerity measures are in full affect in Cleveland..Except for game tickets and the such..Why..these

    people know Cleveland Brown fans are off the hook loyal to all things Browns..Why should they spend, we will

    keep putting up with this s**t and they know it..When people stop showing up to the stadium then maybe..

    @peterbell said:

    You all do realize we are 30 million under the cap this year..We could have brought in some WCO help.

    Austerity measures are in full affect in Cleveland..Except for game tickets and the such..Why..these

    people know Cleveland Brown fans are off the hook loyal to all things Browns..Why should they spend, we will

    keep putting up with this s**t and they know it..When people stop showing up to the stadium then maybe..

    Way off base. As as far as tickets go- there was no increase in ticket prices this year, and the average price per ticket puts the Browns near the bottom in cost of going to see a game.

    Not showing up doesn't work either- the Bungles haven't come close to selling out this year- there were 20,000 empty seats for the Colts game, and even cheapskate Mike Brown isn't worried. You do know an owner would still make money even if the stadium was totally empty, don't you? It's TV revenue that's the big cash cow. Though Lerner would never do it, total non-support is a good reason to get worried your team might move to greener pastures- the folks in Jacksonville are getting a tad nervous about those LA rumors.

  • i think its you missing the point....by a mile....

    those FA you dont like we brought here to occupy the positions until we gets people drafted....not to be top of their position. this may be players of less ability, but also of a much lesser price tag. get that thru your thick skull....while you see no problem with compromising the future cap to "win now" (lmao), those of superior football intelligence decided the opposite so we can lock up our young talent with upside. this includes 2 1st round picks next year.

    youre sick of losing....we get that. but what you are suggesting has been proven to be ineffective in the long term. this is a fact and supported by many long term winners. do you not get that? does the failing of the redskins over the years just not sink in? if you really are sick of losing and want something more than the fluke 2007 season, then simply shut up and watch how building thru the draft is done. its what we need....but then again, it seems like u think every draft pick should be playing like a probowler from day one...and if they dont, its a failure. if you dont see how utterly ridiculous this is, then ill just agree to disagree.

    yes...ill bag on your yankees. their the poster child franchise of trying to buy a winner. some years its worked, and theyre always competitive. yet,2 teams that build thru their farm system and make SMART FA signings are stillplaying while jeter and arod are moping around the house. texas went back without cliff lee. the evidence is all around you,you just cant see it cause youre up to your eye lids in bullshit.

    @choco said:

    i think its you missing the point....by a mile....

    those FA you dont like we brought here to occupy the positions until we gets people drafted....not to be top of their position. this may be players of less ability, but also of a much lesser price tag. get that thru your thick skull....while you see no problem with compromising the future cap to "win now" (lmao), those of superior football intelligence decided the opposite so we can lock up our young talent with upside. this includes 2 1st round picks next year.

    youre sick of losing....we get that. but what you are suggesting has been proven to be ineffective in the long term. this is a fact and supported by many long term winners. do you not get that? does the failing of the redskins over the years just not sink in? if you really are sick of losing and want something more than the fluke 2007 season, then simply shut up and watch how building thru the draft is done. its what we need....but then again, it seems like u think every draft pick should be playing like a probowler from day one...and if they dont, its a failure. if you dont see how utterly ridiculous this is, then ill just agree to disagree.

    yes...ill bag on your yankees. their the poster child franchise of trying to buy a winner. some years its worked, and theyre always competitive. yet,2 teams that build thru their farm system and make SMART FA signings are stillplaying while jeter and arod are moping around the house. texas went back without cliff lee. the evidence is all around you,you just cant see it cause youre up to your eye lids in bullshit.

    Ah, I finally got it through MY Thick head where WRRebel is coming from. Yankees fan- tells me all I need to know. Well the Yankee baseball model of buying up all the talent every year to go pennant chasing doesn't work in the NFL- never has, since Free Agency and a hard salary cap. It worked once way back when for George Allen and his Over the Hill Gang of Redskins.

    I happen to agree in Spades with the part of your post I put in red. Buster Skrine looks to be a terrific pickup for the round he was drafted in. And it's really a bit much at this point to expect Taylor to be playing like Suh or Ngata, and Sheard to be the second coming of Abraham and Tuck.

    That hard cap has consequences- just ask the Colts, who are paying a ton of money to Manning, Freeney, and Mathis, and have to go bargain basement shopping to fill other positions.

  • I have a feeling WRRebel was a huge Queen fan before he was traded to the Broncos.

  • And Jeter the peter is an asswhipe.

  • And Jeter the peter is an asswhipe.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    And Jeter the peter is an asswhipe.

    Blasphamey!!

    Dude Brady quinn was dreamy! When u said queen i first thought you were talking about the macho band from the 70's

  • ok....jeter was brought up in the yanks farm system, not bought thru FA. isnt that just further proof that building thru the draft is the way to go?

  • Come on dude jeter is a god..

    Don't knock jete! He is the kalamazoo kid. From our farm system by the way. He has 5 rings and had minka kelly.. I don't know which one I would want more his rings, minka kelly or his cock? Wait does that make me gay??

    Arod is a homo...

    @wrrebel said:

    Come on dude jeter is a god..

    Don't knock jete! He is the kalamazoo kid. From our farm system by the way. He has 5 rings and had minka kelly.. I don't know which one I would want more his rings, minka kelly or his cock? Wait does that make me gay??

    Arod is a homo...

    "Our farm system"? Are you employed by that entity?

  • @wrrebel said:

    Come on dude jeter is a god..

    Don't knock jete! He is the kalamazoo kid. From our farm system by the way. He has 5 rings and had minka kelly.. I don't know which one I would want more his rings, minka kelly or his cock? Wait does that make me gay??

    Arod is a homo...

    "Our farm system"? Are you employed by that entity?

    @the-gipper said:

    "Our farm system"? Are you employed by that entity?

    gipper, u know what i mean...

    Its just like when you use to call Moammar Gadhafi your DADDY

  • you sure do get quiet when you cant make an argument....which usually leads to deflection posts so you can ignore that youre once again....wrong.

  • I dont remember a question. I can beat a dead horse all day long. All we have is one big rat hole.. choco, I'd show you, but I'm too old, I'm too tired, I'm too f.ckin' blind. If I were the man I was five years ago, I'd take a FLAMETHROWER to this place!

  • @the-gipper said:

    "Our farm system"? Are you employed by that entity?

    gipper, u know what i mean...

    Its just like when you use to call Moammar Gadhafi your DADDY

    @wrrebel said:

    gipper, u know what i mean...

    Its just like when you use to call Moammar Gadhafi your DADDY

    You're losing me.

  • Gipper

    Exaclty... I understand you have a pepeive, when fans call it "my team"

    Its a figure of speech.

    Can I ask? When someone ask u who is ur football team, do u tl them. "I don't have a football team, but I'm a fan of the browns"?