Our Next Coach Will Be?
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I like Mike Zimmer DC of the Bengals. He is young, has plenty of experience as DC and his defenses have consistently been great and also we will be getting a coach who knows our division and also we can weaken our opponent.
I like Mike Zimmer DC of the Bengals. He is young, has plenty of experience as DC and his defenses have consistently been great and also we will be getting a coach who knows our division and also we can weaken our opponent.
I'm with you I think Zimmer will be a tough no nonsense coach that has his team ready to play on sundays. Want to see a young hungry coach not a retread whose system worked in 2001..
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When was Shurmur ever a hot assistant? lol
I agree with the point some people have made before on these boards in that some of these guys like Cowher,Gruden etc. have lost their fire.
Honestly I think Gruden is a bit overrated anyhow, he won the Superbowl with Dungy's team.
I would rather us get our own guy who is hungry and ready to make a name for himself rather than trying to latch onto some has been.
Just please let it be some guy with passion and an attitude , not one of these dull mr. nice guy pussies we always hire.
Mangini was about the only guy we hired who actually had us playing some tough football, maybe part of that was Rob Ryan you got to love his enthusiasm.
I'm still liking the O-Line guys and O-coordinator from Houston.
They know the zone blocking running scheme from Alex Gibbs,Gary Kubiak that turns every running back into a pro-bowler and it would fit like a glove with Richardson.
I would agree Cowher has lost his fire, but Gruden is stll BURNING HOT AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tough football doesn't win anymore............. The last "TOUGH" football team that won a Superbowl was the 2000-2001 Ravens. The Stoolers have won it since then, but they didn't win ANYTHING until the rapist started throwing the ball.
To win in 2012 and beyond, the winner needs a GREAT offense.
It's no surprise the worst defensive teams last year ( New England, Green Bay) had the best records. And the worst rushing offensive team ( GIANTS ) actually won the Superbowl. It's all about the QB and the men catching the ball.
I would agree Cowher has lost his fire, but Gruden is stll BURNING HOT AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tough football doesn't win anymore............. The last "TOUGH" football team that won a Superbowl was the 2000-2001 Ravens. The Stoolers have won it since then, but they didn't win ANYTHING until the rapist started throwing the ball.
To win in 2012 and beyond, the winner needs a GREAT offense.
It's no surprise the worst defensive teams last year ( New England, Green Bay) had the best records. And the worst rushing offensive team ( GIANTS ) actually won the Superbowl. It's all about the QB and the men catching the ball.
And the Texans with a MASH unit won in the playoffs, Ratbirds go to SB if Evans holds onto ball and 9ers are in if Ginn is returning punts.. All these teams have top defenses in the league and outside of Hou, a bunch of soso O's...
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If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I would agree Cowher has lost his fire, but Gruden is stll BURNING HOT AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tough football doesn't win anymore............. The last "TOUGH" football team that won a Superbowl was the 2000-2001 Ravens. The Stoolers have won it since then, but they didn't win ANYTHING until the rapist started throwing the ball.
To win in 2012 and beyond, the winner needs a GREAT offense.
It's no surprise the worst defensive teams last year ( New England, Green Bay) had the best records. And the worst rushing offensive team ( GIANTS ) actually won the Superbowl. It's all about the QB and the men catching the ball.
And the Texans with a MASH unit won in the playoffs, Ratbirds go to SB if Evans holds onto ball and 9ers are in if Ginn is returning punts.. All these teams have top defenses in the league and outside of Hou, a bunch of soso O's...
And the Texans with a MASH unit won in the playoffs, Ratbirds go to SB if Evans holds onto ball and 9ers are in if Ginn is returning punts.. All these teams have top defenses in the league and outside of Hou, a bunch of soso O's...
"All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.
You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................
Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year
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If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win
If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win
Fine with me
Leave him in College
where he WIPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSS meatchicken
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I like Gruden.
I heard him saying he is a Browns fan. He would understand the value of a W for the hungriest franchies in the world.
Not like that idiot wearing headphones on our sideline.
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If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win
If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win
Perhaps, though, I could see him having a Jimmy Johnson like career arc.
He might be my choice.
Sure, he failed as an NFL HC at Miami.....but Bill Belichick failed as an NFL HC here.
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I like Gruden.
I heard him saying he is a Browns fan. He would understand the value of a W for the hungriest franchies in the world.
Not like that idiot wearing headphones on our sideline.
I like Gruden.
I heard him saying he is a Browns fan. He would understand the value of a W for the hungriest franchies in the world.
Not like that idiot wearing headphones on our sideline.
He is from Sandusky, so it is natural that he would have grown up a Browns fan.
Though I think he wants to be the next John Madden....media wise.
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Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.
Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.
A Harbaugh sister would be better then what we have now
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Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.
Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.
Just scrolling through to post this exact comment.... too late...
As for the rest...
I'm not a Gruden fan. He won with an inherited TB team and then tore it apart. Too volatile for my taste.
Saban has burned his NFL bridges as far as I am concerned with the way he fucked over the Fins. Besides he has all the spotlight and $$$ he needs at Bama.
I think Cowher is interesting. I have no doubt that his fire would reignite in a heart beat. And vs Gruden I think it's the right amount of fire. Plus if he doesn't take a job soon, the calls will dwindle to zero...
Billick - Nothing there but ego...
Reid - Why go after another "can't do it" retread?
Mooch - no
Holmgren - hell no...
What about Jim Tressel? Always thought he was cast in the mold of Bill Walsh, and in the NFL there are no rules against free tattoos...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.
no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').
i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.
there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.
edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.
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i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.
no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').
i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.
there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.
edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.
i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.
no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').
i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.
there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.
edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.
There is the option to pick "other"
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i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.
no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').
i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.
there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.
edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.
There is the option to pick "other"
There is the option to pick "other"
thanks. didn't see it.
at the time of my vote it's interesting to see that 'gruden' and 'other' are neck and neck.
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And the Texans with a MASH unit won in the playoffs, Ratbirds go to SB if Evans holds onto ball and 9ers are in if Ginn is returning punts.. All these teams have top defenses in the league and outside of Hou, a bunch of soso O's...
"All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.
You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................
Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year
"All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.
You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................
Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year
The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.
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Rick Dennison OC of Houston.
Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90
Special Teams Coach,Offensive Line Coach,Offensive Coordinator Denver 95-2008
Offensive Coordinator Houston 2010- Present
1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison
Terrel Davis
Tatum Bell
Olandis Gary
Mike Anderson
Rueben Droughns
Clinton Portis
Arian Foster
Ben Tate 942*
Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.
And bring in Bernie as our new GM.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
"All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.
You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................
Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year
The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.
The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.
I would not agree with that. They were close, but the 2000 Ravens I think would rank better.
Also, the 2005 Steelers defense would be in that conversation of best defenses since 2000.
The problem with trying to rate the "best defense" of all time is the age old problem of "different eras" having different rules or different philosophies.
E.g. There were massive rule changes in the late 70s/early 80s geared toward improving offensive output. Some of the greatest defenses we all know: Steel Curtain/Purple People Eaters/Fearsome Foursome/Grits Blitz/Doomsday etc. of the 60s/70s were able to bump and run down the field...able to use the head slap...able to pummel QBs almost at will
..all of which would be penalties today.
And even going back. In the early years it was quite common to have a 0-0 tie. I am curious when the last time a game ended 0-0. A shutout of any kind is rare today. Offenses were not as adept then.
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Rick Dennison OC of Houston.
Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90
Special Teams Coach,Offensive Line Coach,Offensive Coordinator Denver 95-2008
Offensive Coordinator Houston 2010- Present
1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison
Terrel Davis
Tatum Bell
Olandis Gary
Mike Anderson
Rueben Droughns
Clinton Portis
Arian Foster
Ben Tate 942*
Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.
And bring in Bernie as our new GM.
Rick Dennison OC of Houston.
Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90
Special Teams Coach,Offensive Line Coach,Offensive Coordinator Denver 95-2008
Offensive Coordinator Houston 2010- Present
1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison
Terrel Davis
Tatum Bell
Olandis Gary
Mike Anderson
Rueben Droughns
Clinton Portis
Arian Foster
Ben Tate 942*
Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.
And bring in Bernie as our new GM.
sounds good as long as bernie stays off the sauce.
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