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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win

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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win

    Fine with me

    Leave him in College

    where he WIPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSS meatchicken

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      The Italian DawgPoundT The Italian DawgPound wrote on last edited by
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      I like Gruden.

      I heard him saying he is a Browns fan. He would understand the value of a W for the hungriest franchies in the world.

      Not like that idiot wearing headphones on our sideline.

      All the way from Torino to Cleveland: GO BROWNS!!!!!!!
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      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

        If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @mld-woody said:

        If Saban can't get an advantage over his competition (oversigning, cutting players with medical hardships, shady recruiting, etc) he won't win

        Perhaps, though, I could see him having a Jimmy Johnson like career arc.

        He might be my choice.

        Sure, he failed as an NFL HC at Miami.....but Bill Belichick failed as an NFL HC here.

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        • The Italian DawgPoundT The Italian DawgPound

          I like Gruden.

          I heard him saying he is a Browns fan. He would understand the value of a W for the hungriest franchies in the world.

          Not like that idiot wearing headphones on our sideline.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @the-italian-dawgpound said:

          I like Gruden.

          I heard him saying he is a Browns fan. He would understand the value of a W for the hungriest franchies in the world.

          Not like that idiot wearing headphones on our sideline.

          He is from Sandusky, so it is natural that he would have grown up a Browns fan.

          Though I think he wants to be the next John Madden....media wise.

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            T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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            Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.

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              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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              @the-cysko-kid said:

              Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.

              A Harbaugh sister would be better then what we have now

              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                @the-cysko-kid said:

                Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.

                Just scrolling through to post this exact comment.... too late... 😁

                As for the rest...

                I'm not a Gruden fan. He won with an inherited TB team and then tore it apart. Too volatile for my taste.

                Saban has burned his NFL bridges as far as I am concerned with the way he fucked over the Fins. Besides he has all the spotlight and $$$ he needs at Bama.

                I think Cowher is interesting. I have no doubt that his fire would reignite in a heart beat. And vs Gruden I think it's the right amount of fire. Plus if he doesn't take a job soon, the calls will dwindle to zero...

                Billick - Nothing there but ego...

                Reid - Why go after another "can't do it" retread?

                Mooch - no

                Holmgren - hell no...

                What about Jim Tressel? Always thought he was cast in the mold of Bill Walsh, and in the NFL there are no rules against free tattoos...

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                  WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                  Please no to Gruden!! he is a phony and reminds me too much of Lane Kiffen...

                  i would say no to all of these coaches.. I am hoping Jerry can pick the right coach finnaly!!

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                    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                    I'm going with whomever Poetic G is going with.

                    Zombo

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                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                      i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.

                      no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').

                      i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.

                      there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.

                      edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.

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                        i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.

                        no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').

                        i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.

                        there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.

                        edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.

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                        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                        @miktoxic said:

                        i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.

                        no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').

                        i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.

                        there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.

                        edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.

                        There is the option to pick "other"

                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                        • Browns149B Browns149

                          @miktoxic said:

                          i knew of gruden when going to sandusky HS. he was no tough guy then. i think he might have taken his napolean complex and turned into this 'chucky' persona. i don't think he's a great coach. if you think billick was lucky then put gruden up there with him.

                          no one on that list excites me so i didn't vote (there should be a select button for 'none of the above').

                          i agree with someone in another post that we should hire marty schottenheimer as president (see ya fat boy!) and let him figure out the rest. i wouldn't however flush everyone out who is a part of this coaching squad. i'd keep jauron and any other coach who has proven themselves (shurmur and childress got to go) and i'd keep heckert.

                          there's something ingrained in this WC style offense we play that just falls flat.

                          edit: well i just read about banner replacing holmgren, so the schottenheimer reference is null and void. another idea shattered. lol.

                          There is the option to pick "other"

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          @browns149 said:

                          There is the option to pick "other"

                          thanks. didn't see it.

                          at the time of my vote it's interesting to see that 'gruden' and 'other' are neck and neck. 😆

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                            And the Texans with a MASH unit won in the playoffs, Ratbirds go to SB if Evans holds onto ball and 9ers are in if Ginn is returning punts.. All these teams have top defenses in the league and outside of Hou, a bunch of soso O's...

                            "All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.

                            You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................

                            Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year

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                            B baybrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                            @browns149 said:

                            "All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.

                            You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................

                            Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year

                            The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.

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                              BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                              Rick Dennison OC of Houston.

                              Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90

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                              1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison

                              Terrel Davis

                              Tatum Bell

                              Olandis Gary

                              Mike Anderson

                              Rueben Droughns

                              Clinton Portis

                              Arian Foster

                              Ben Tate 942*

                              Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.

                              And bring in Bernie as our new GM.

                              "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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                              • B baybrownsfan

                                @browns149 said:

                                "All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.

                                You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................

                                Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year

                                The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @baybrownsfan said:

                                The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.

                                I would not agree with that. They were close, but the 2000 Ravens I think would rank better.

                                Also, the 2005 Steelers defense would be in that conversation of best defenses since 2000.

                                The problem with trying to rate the "best defense" of all time is the age old problem of "different eras" having different rules or different philosophies.

                                E.g. There were massive rule changes in the late 70s/early 80s geared toward improving offensive output. Some of the greatest defenses we all know: Steel Curtain/Purple People Eaters/Fearsome Foursome/Grits Blitz/Doomsday etc. of the 60s/70s were able to bump and run down the field...able to use the head slap...able to pummel QBs almost at will

                                ..all of which would be penalties today.

                                And even going back. In the early years it was quite common to have a 0-0 tie. I am curious when the last time a game ended 0-0. A shutout of any kind is rare today. Offenses were not as adept then.

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                                  Rick Dennison OC of Houston.

                                  Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90

                                  Special Teams Coach,Offensive Line Coach,Offensive Coordinator Denver 95-2008

                                  Offensive Coordinator Houston 2010- Present

                                  1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison

                                  Terrel Davis

                                  Tatum Bell

                                  Olandis Gary

                                  Mike Anderson

                                  Rueben Droughns

                                  Clinton Portis

                                  Arian Foster

                                  Ben Tate 942*

                                  Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.

                                  And bring in Bernie as our new GM.

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                                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                  @badnewsbrowns said:

                                  Rick Dennison OC of Houston.

                                  Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90

                                  Special Teams Coach,Offensive Line Coach,Offensive Coordinator Denver 95-2008

                                  Offensive Coordinator Houston 2010- Present

                                  1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison

                                  Terrel Davis

                                  Tatum Bell

                                  Olandis Gary

                                  Mike Anderson

                                  Rueben Droughns

                                  Clinton Portis

                                  Arian Foster

                                  Ben Tate 942*

                                  Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.

                                  And bring in Bernie as our new GM.

                                  sounds good as long as bernie stays off the sauce.

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                                    @browns149 said:

                                    "All these teams have top defenses" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                    Since 2000 only the Ravens in 2000 had a "GREAT" defense.

                                    You say the ratbirds woulda shoulda but didn't and the 49ers woulda shoulda. but didn't.... If that's the case the Browns would be 1-0. Afterall we should have intercepted that pass Vick threw.................................

                                    Anyone can get to the playoffs, hell the Bungles got there last year. And they will be lucky to win 6 games this year

                                    The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.

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                                    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @baybrownsfan said:

                                    The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.

                                    The Bucs D was good, but the Ratbirds were WAY better. Balt gave up 23 points total in 4 playoff games, TB gave up 37 points in 3 playoff games. Balt allowed an NFL record 60 rushing yards a game.

                                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                      @baybrownsfan said:

                                      The 2002 Bucs had a better defense than the Ravens did ya idiot.

                                      The Bucs D was good, but the Ratbirds were WAY better. Balt gave up 23 points total in 4 playoff games, TB gave up 37 points in 3 playoff games. Balt allowed an NFL record 60 rushing yards a game.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @browns149 said:

                                      The Bucs D was good, but the Ratbirds were WAY better. Balt gave up 23 points total in 4 playoff games, TB gave up 37 points in 3 playoff games. Balt allowed an NFL record 60 rushing yards a game.

                                      Let us not forget the 1985 Bears. No discussion of the greatest defense ever is complete without them. They are pretty much consensus #1.

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                                        Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.

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                                        The Italian DawgPoundT The Italian DawgPound wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                                        Do the harbaughs have another brother? Hire him.

                                        @browns149 said:

                                        A Harbaugh sister would be better then what we have now

                                        😆

                                        All the way from Torino to Cleveland: GO BROWNS!!!!!!!
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                                        • BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns

                                          Rick Dennison OC of Houston.

                                          Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90

                                          Special Teams Coach,Offensive Line Coach,Offensive Coordinator Denver 95-2008

                                          Offensive Coordinator Houston 2010- Present

                                          1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison

                                          Terrel Davis

                                          Tatum Bell

                                          Olandis Gary

                                          Mike Anderson

                                          Rueben Droughns

                                          Clinton Portis

                                          Arian Foster

                                          Ben Tate 942*

                                          Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.

                                          And bring in Bernie as our new GM.

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                                          thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @badnewsbrowns said:

                                          Rick Dennison OC of Houston.

                                          Linebacker Denver Broncos 82-90

                                          Special Teams Coach,Offensive Line Coach,Offensive Coordinator Denver 95-2008

                                          Offensive Coordinator Houston 2010- Present

                                          1000 yard rushers coached under Dennison

                                          Terrel Davis

                                          Tatum Bell

                                          Olandis Gary

                                          Mike Anderson

                                          Rueben Droughns

                                          Clinton Portis

                                          Arian Foster

                                          Ben Tate 942*

                                          Bring in John Benton current Texans O-Line coach also a long time student of the zone blocking scheme to run the Offense.

                                          And bring in Bernie as our new GM.

                                          Thats a good one. IMHO we should keep Jauron and all of the defensive coaches. He showed last yr that he deserves the job. But, we desperately need an offensive-minded HC and better position coaches. Holmgren had the right idea with Shurmur but he just seems like an idiot. And, Childress is useless as well. Neither one of these guys can call plays.

                                          Bring in a HC to coach and an OC to call plays. That's the way it should be. I like the guy from Houston... as an OC but we need a true motivator HC to inspire this team that's been like a bump on a log for too long.

                                          #Justsayin'
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