Possible Free Agents
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Jammer sucks... he's been run out of San Diego. We don't want him and he's old.
That's what they said about Woodson before coming to the Packers.
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That's what they said about Woodson before coming to the Packers.
You can't compare woodson to jammer..
Woodson was a stud up to the final two years in oakland when he was injured.
Woodson was selected by the Oakland Raiders with the fourth pick in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft. In his first season with Oakland, Woodson was selected as the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. He was named to the Pro Bowl and earned All-Pro recognition three consecutive times (1999–2001). In a memorable 2002 AFC playoff match against the New England Patriots, Woodson seemed to have clinched the game by laying a hit on quarterback Tom Brady and forcing a fumble, but the ruling was controversially overturned. Woodson later battled several nagging injuries in consecutive seasons in Oakland, leading to his departure and becoming a free agent after the 2005 NFL season.[3]
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That's what they said about Woodson before coming to the Packers.
You can't compare woodson to jammer..
Woodson was a stud up to the final two years in oakland when he was injured.
Woodson was selected by the Oakland Raiders with the fourth pick in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft. In his first season with Oakland, Woodson was selected as the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. He was named to the Pro Bowl and earned All-Pro recognition three consecutive times (1999–2001). In a memorable 2002 AFC playoff match against the New England Patriots, Woodson seemed to have clinched the game by laying a hit on quarterback Tom Brady and forcing a fumble, but the ruling was controversially overturned. Woodson later battled several nagging injuries in consecutive seasons in Oakland, leading to his departure and becoming a free agent after the 2005 NFL season.[3]
You can't compare woodson to jammer..
Woodson was a stud up to the final two years in oakland when he was injured.
Woodson was selected by the Oakland Raiders with the fourth pick in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft. In his first season with Oakland, Woodson was selected as the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. He was named to the Pro Bowl and earned All-Pro recognition three consecutive times (1999–2001). In a memorable 2002 AFC playoff match against the New England Patriots, Woodson seemed to have clinched the game by laying a hit on quarterback Tom Brady and forcing a fumble, but the ruling was controversially overturned. Woodson later battled several nagging injuries in consecutive seasons in Oakland, leading to his departure and becoming a free agent after the 2005 NFL season.[3]
Yea, but he is an Ohio guy that went to Michigan....so he sucks just for that....though maybe not for all the other things you mention.
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You can't compare woodson to jammer..
Woodson was a stud up to the final two years in oakland when he was injured.
Woodson was selected by the Oakland Raiders with the fourth pick in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft. In his first season with Oakland, Woodson was selected as the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. He was named to the Pro Bowl and earned All-Pro recognition three consecutive times (1999–2001). In a memorable 2002 AFC playoff match against the New England Patriots, Woodson seemed to have clinched the game by laying a hit on quarterback Tom Brady and forcing a fumble, but the ruling was controversially overturned. Woodson later battled several nagging injuries in consecutive seasons in Oakland, leading to his departure and becoming a free agent after the 2005 NFL season.[3]
Yea, but he is an Ohio guy that went to Michigan....so he sucks just for that....though maybe not for all the other things you mention.
Yea, but he is an Ohio guy that went to Michigan....so he sucks just for that....though maybe not for all the other things you mention.
wait im saying Woodson was great,, and he is in a whole different league than jammer..
Plus he is much better looking
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I didn't say 1 guy. One guy isn't going to help that much, unless he's a coach or QB. For the Browns to get much better they will need 1 guy from each positon list you have. That will add up to big money
Well with a first and third round pick coming from the above list, a couple of slots should be filled. And with a FA or two you do the rest.
I think if we can get either a killer OLB we can perhaps live with the DEs we have. Or vice versa.
And I also think that we could live with the OGs we have.
The primary slots are that CB, and FS and either a DE or OLB.
Three defenders. Need them.
Well with a first and third round pick coming from the above list, a couple of slots should be filled. And with a FA or two you do the rest.
I think if we can get either a killer OLB we can perhaps live with the DEs we have. Or vice versa.
And I also think that we could live with the OGs we have.
The primary slots are that CB, and FS and either a DE or OLB.
Three defenders. Need them.
OLB Daryl Smith
Saftey Jariuos Byrd
CB Derek Cox
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How is this for a plan:
If the Browns have the #4-5 overall pick, they trade it down to say 10-12 with the Arizona Cardinals who will be desperate for a QB. Only KC is more in need of one. The Browns get back at least the Cardinals #2 and #3 round picks which should be about #42 and #75
With 10-12 they pick Barkevious Mingo or Sam Montgomery to fill their OLB/DE need.
With #42 they take either David Amerson or Jordan Pryor at CB
With their own 3rd round pick they take OG Larry Warford.
With about #75 they take either of the FS Kenny Vaccaro or Tony Jefferson
Thus they have filled all their primary needs in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
This of course is predicated on the continued policy of not obtaining top FAs, but that is a big assumption.
Or...would all y'all just prefer to say "Take either Jarvis Jones or Dee Milliner and forget the trade?
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Yea, but he is an Ohio guy that went to Michigan....so he sucks just for that....though maybe not for all the other things you mention.
wait im saying Woodson was great,, and he is in a whole different league than jammer..
Plus he is much better looking
wait im saying Woodson was great,, and he is in a whole different league than jammer..
Plus he is much better looking
Woodson is pretty much a butt ugly looking dude. But maybe a chick like you sees things from a different perspective.
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Woodson is pretty much a butt ugly looking dude. But maybe a chick like you sees things from a different perspective.
The sky is blue, water is wet, women have secrets.
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How is this for a plan:
If the Browns have the #4-5 overall pick, they trade it down to say 10-12 with the Arizona Cardinals who will be desperate for a QB. Only KC is more in need of one. The Browns get back at least the Cardinals #2 and #3 round picks which should be about #42 and #75
With 10-12 they pick Barkevious Mingo or Sam Montgomery to fill their OLB/DE need.
With #42 they take either David Amerson or Jordan Pryor at CB
With their own 3rd round pick they take OG Larry Warford.
With about #75 they take either of the FS Kenny Vaccaro or Tony Jefferson
Thus they have filled all their primary needs in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
This of course is predicated on the continued policy of not obtaining top FAs, but that is a big assumption.
Or...would all y'all just prefer to say "Take either Jarvis Jones or Dee Milliner and forget the trade?
How is this for a plan:
If the Browns have the #4-5 overall pick, they trade it down to say 10-12 with the Arizona Cardinals who will be desperate for a QB. Only KC is more in need of one. The Browns get back at least the Cardinals #2 and #3 round picks which should be about #42 and #75
With 10-12 they pick Barkevious Mingo or Sam Montgomery to fill their OLB/DE need.
With #42 they take either David Amerson or Jordan Pryor at CB
With their own 3rd round pick they take OG Larry Warford.
With about #75 they take either of the FS Kenny Vaccaro or Tony Jefferson
Thus they have filled all their primary needs in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
This of course is predicated on the continued policy of not obtaining top FAs, but that is a big assumption.
Or...would all y'all just prefer to say "Take either Jarvis Jones or Dee Milliner and forget the trade?
It all sounds good, but haven't we learned, a young, inexperienced team, like the one we have now, isn't going to win many games?
They keep saying "Build through the draft" Well when you have 27 rookies or 2nd year players, and VERY few veterans + an aweful coach = 3-13.
Let's get some veterans, a better coach and see what we can do. Rookies are fine until you have to rely on them to play a lot. Holmgren NEEDED all these young guys, to justify his 5 year plan. Now that he's leaving, lets get some experience and winners here. And the young guys can learn from them
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How is this for a plan:
If the Browns have the #4-5 overall pick, they trade it down to say 10-12 with the Arizona Cardinals who will be desperate for a QB. Only KC is more in need of one. The Browns get back at least the Cardinals #2 and #3 round picks which should be about #42 and #75
With 10-12 they pick Barkevious Mingo or Sam Montgomery to fill their OLB/DE need.
With #42 they take either David Amerson or Jordan Pryor at CB
With their own 3rd round pick they take OG Larry Warford.
With about #75 they take either of the FS Kenny Vaccaro or Tony Jefferson
Thus they have filled all their primary needs in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
This of course is predicated on the continued policy of not obtaining top FAs, but that is a big assumption.
Or...would all y'all just prefer to say "Take either Jarvis Jones or Dee Milliner and forget the trade?
It all sounds good, but haven't we learned, a young, inexperienced team, like the one we have now, isn't going to win many games?
They keep saying "Build through the draft" Well when you have 27 rookies or 2nd year players, and VERY few veterans + an aweful coach = 3-13.
Let's get some veterans, a better coach and see what we can do. Rookies are fine until you have to rely on them to play a lot. Holmgren NEEDED all these young guys, to justify his 5 year plan. Now that he's leaving, lets get some experience and winners here. And the young guys can learn from them
It all sounds good, but haven't we learned, a young, inexperienced team, like the one we have now, isn't going to win many games?
They keep saying "Build through the draft" Well when you have 27 rookies or 2nd year players, and VERY few veterans + an aweful coach = 3-13.
Let's get some veterans, a better coach and see what we can do. Rookies are fine until you have to rely on them to play a lot. Holmgren NEEDED all these young guys, to justify his 5 year plan. Now that he's leaving, lets get some experience and winners here. And the young guys can learn from them
Well here is the key.. If the new owner goes the college route like chip kelly or someone with no NFL experience my quess is we will keep the young guys and not sign any veterans.
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It all sounds good, but haven't we learned, a young, inexperienced team, like the one we have now, isn't going to win many games?
They keep saying "Build through the draft" Well when you have 27 rookies or 2nd year players, and VERY few veterans + an aweful coach = 3-13.
Let's get some veterans, a better coach and see what we can do. Rookies are fine until you have to rely on them to play a lot. Holmgren NEEDED all these young guys, to justify his 5 year plan. Now that he's leaving, lets get some experience and winners here. And the young guys can learn from them
Well here is the key.. If the new owner goes the college route like chip kelly or someone with no NFL experience my quess is we will keep the young guys and not sign any veterans.
Well here is the key.. If the new owner goes the college route like chip kelly or someone with no NFL experience my quess is we will keep the young guys and not sign any veterans.
Great. and we will go 4-12 again.
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Great. and we will go 4-12 again.
No i don't think we will. I am betting 7-9 next year but my prediction is tied to the coach they hire.
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Great. and we will go 4-12 again.
No i don't think we will. I am betting 7-9 next year but my prediction is tied to the coach they hire.
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OLB - Erin Henderson, Manny Lawson
S - Kenny Phillips, Jarius Byrd
CB - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, Aqib Talib
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Here is a list of some Free Agents that may be available next year that could be picked up to plug some of the Browns holes:
Cornerbacks:
Brent Grimes ATL
Tracy Porter DEN
Sean Smith MIA
Quentin Jammer SD
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie PHIL
Derek Cox JAX
Aqib Talib NE
Safeties:
William Moore ATL
Dashon Golsdon SF
LaRon Landry NYJ
Jarius Byrd BUFF
Louis Delmas DET
Linebackers:
Shaun Phillips SD OLB
Anthony Spencer DAL OLB
Connor Barwin HOU OLB
Daryl Smith JAX OLB
Rey Maualaga CIN MLB
Defensive Ends:
Dwight Freeny IND
Cliff Avril DET
Osi Umeniora NYG
Michael Johnson CIN
Glen Dorsey KC
Offensive Guards:
Brandon Moore NYJ
WRs:
Mike Wallace PIT
Dwayne Bowe KC
Wes Welker NE
Danny Amendola STL
Kevin Ogletree DAL
Are any of these guys worth considering for the Browns future?
Here is a list of some Free Agents that may be available next year that could be picked up to plug some of the Browns holes:
Cornerbacks:
Brent Grimes ATL: Will resign
Tracy Porter DEN: Will likely resign
Sean Smith MIA: Will resign
Quentin Jammer SD: Over the hill
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie PHIL: Will resign
Derek Cox JAX: Will resign
Aqib Talib NE: Based on how he's playing, i see him getting a longer term deal. He's a head case but his talent has never been a question and bellicheat has a way with those players.
Safeties:
William Moore ATL: He may hit the market
Dashon Golsdon SF: Same as moore
LaRon Landry NYJ: You don't want him his play is no where what it used to be. He's a gym rat and that's about it.
Jarius Byrd BUFF: He's going to resign, vital to their operation
Louis Delmas DET: I expect him to also resign
Linebackers:
Shaun Phillips SD OLB: No idea
Anthony Spencer DAL OLB: Will resign
Connor Barwin HOU OLB: Will resign especially with Mario Williams gone. He and and Brooks anchor the outside now
Daryl Smith JAX OLB: No idea
Rey Maualaga CIN MLB: Resign
Defensive Ends:
Dwight Freeny IND: I'd be surprised if he doesn't resign for a home town discount type deal
Cliff Avril DET: No idea
Osi Umeniora NYG: Do you really want him?
Michael Johnson CIN: I expect him to resign
Glen Dorsey KC: High draft pick, can't exactly stay healthy and I don't see him helping
Offensive Guards:
Brandon Moore NYJ: No idea
WRs:
Mike Wallace PIT: I won't be shocked to see him stay in Pittsburgh but I also won't be shocked to see him go. He's going to cost where ever he ends up.
Dwayne Bowe KC: He'll resign
Wes Welker NE: Resign
Danny Amendola STL: resign
Kevin Ogletree DAL: no idea
Are any of these guys worth considering for the Browns future?
All speculation on my part but most of the guys you mentioned likely aren't going to hit the market. I obviously added my portion to all the above players.
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Oh and Jammer is no where close to as good as Woodson, never has been and never will be. I agree two completely different animals.
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Yeah I agree that a lot of them will re-sign... I'm sticking with my plan I brought up in a different thread... Overpay for Greg Jennings on a 4-Year deal (really the only way he'd come here), grab Michael Huff (who most definitely will be cut with a four million dollar bonus, and grab a OT/OG guy, I think I went with Charlie Johnson from Minnesota.
Looking at this, I don't think San Francisco will pay Goldson what he wants, so there is a possibility that he will hit the market.
The only way to get a marquee free agent is to pay them more. If the Browns get Goldson and Jennings by overpaying and then grab a few guys to round out the roster, I'd be happy with that in addition to another quality draft.
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We need three FA's, if we go Jarvis Jones in the draft like im hoping for, i can see us snagging one of those CB's (any would do as theyre all dramatic upgrades to what we have) we can also grab a FB and G out of the FA crop, draft a TJ McDonald or Bacarri Rambo in the third and a DE in the 4th and if Weeden preforms like a top 15 QB next year we're playoff bound!!!
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i always dug that name....quentin jammer.
too bad he sucks.
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