What it will take for the Browns to be a consistent winner
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Are you willing to go 2-14 to get one of those QB's?
We won't need to be that bad. Jags will get a qb, raiders have Pryor, buffalo has ej, jets have geno, Pitt has Big Ben. The only teams that will be near us in the draft that will go for a qb are the jags, then us, then Tampa bay, then maybe the titans.
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Only gotta go 2-12 the rest of the way. Why not? Let's just suck one more year and then maybe we can get a good QB for once.
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Only gotta go 2-12 the rest of the way. Why not? Let's just suck one more year and then maybe we can get a good QB for once.
Only gotta go 2-12 the rest of the way. Why not? Let's just suck one more year and then maybe we can get a good QB for once.
I agree, what's the point of going 4-12, 5-11, 6-10, at best 7-9 every single year? let's just get this over with..
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A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,
About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB
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A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,
About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB
A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,
About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB
next draft and FA period has to be all offense minded in accruing talent...
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A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,
About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB
next draft and FA period has to be all offense minded in accruing talent...
next draft and FA period has to be all offense minded in accruing talent...
The thing that gets me, is Holmgren was a west coast offensive guy and he NEVER drafted a decent WR. The west coast offense is ALL about the WR's
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.
and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.
I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...
I'm still looking for "the one"...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...
I'm still looking for "the one"...
was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
The thing that gets me, is Holmgren was a west coast offensive guy and he NEVER drafted a decent WR. The west coast offense is ALL about the WR's
Yeah,I never understood what the vision was totally...or so I thought...
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Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...
I'm still looking for "the one"...
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no and neither were drafted in round one either.was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.
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I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...
I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...
I'm ready... put me in, Coach...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...
I'm still looking for "the one"...
Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.
If we draft #1 and get Clowney, that would be so counter-intuitive
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Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.
If we draft #1 and get Clowney, that would be so counter-intuitive
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DE is not a position of need.
And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
No it isn't, but I see Zero qb's worthy of a top pick. Is their a Fitzgerald or Julio Jones that you see in college that screams #1 playmaker, sorry don't see it.DE is not a position of need.
And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...
Just because a player is projected to be #1 in his draft for his position don't mean he is worth it. The level of talent at every position goes up or down from year to year.
So If I had the #1 pick I would take clowney and trade away the excess position for more picks if need be. if you follow football and watch how successful teams draft they don't reach on draft picks and find the best talent in the 3rd thru 5th rounds.
Just take a look at all of the top picks we've had and reached on in the first round that should be enough right there to make you start to understand. That's why you take the safe low risk high reward pick of clowney and trade your players or trade down to the level at which you think the player of need is worth the risk.
Sometimes BPA is worth doing even in the first round not just position of need.
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