What it will take for the Browns to be a consistent winner
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The thing that gets me, is Holmgren was a west coast offensive guy and he NEVER drafted a decent WR. The west coast offense is ALL about the WR's
Yeah,I never understood what the vision was totally...or so I thought...
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Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...
I'm still looking for "the one"...
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no and neither were drafted in round one either.was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.
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I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...
I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...
I'm ready... put me in, Coach...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...
I'm still looking for "the one"...
Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.
If we draft #1 and get Clowney, that would be so counter-intuitive
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Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.
If we draft #1 and get Clowney, that would be so counter-intuitive
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DE is not a position of need.
And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
No it isn't, but I see Zero qb's worthy of a top pick. Is their a Fitzgerald or Julio Jones that you see in college that screams #1 playmaker, sorry don't see it.DE is not a position of need.
And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...
Just because a player is projected to be #1 in his draft for his position don't mean he is worth it. The level of talent at every position goes up or down from year to year.
So If I had the #1 pick I would take clowney and trade away the excess position for more picks if need be. if you follow football and watch how successful teams draft they don't reach on draft picks and find the best talent in the 3rd thru 5th rounds.
Just take a look at all of the top picks we've had and reached on in the first round that should be enough right there to make you start to understand. That's why you take the safe low risk high reward pick of clowney and trade your players or trade down to the level at which you think the player of need is worth the risk.
Sometimes BPA is worth doing even in the first round not just position of need.
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Pull it back some chief its still way too early, last year matt Barkley was the cream of the crop early on.
a man of reason.
the newbie has 18 posts and they are all about getting a new QB.
hey junior, how'd kaep do last night with his big strong arm and mobile/getaway ability and all the read option bullshit against a great defense with the best defensive backfield in the league? what did they muster, 3 points? HA!
GTFO.
i want. what i want. i want. what i want.
just cut the shit already. didn't flacco win the super bowl last year? and he's about as mobile as weeden. actually weeden put up better #'s than flacco sunday...-minus the td of course. but blame that on chornivsky. not weeden.
all you guys just want to keep drafting QBs every fucking year, when we don't know how to draft anyways, just to get pissed at him in his second year and call for the next one in line.
shut the fuck up already.
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Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!
Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.
Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.
These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.
I WANT A HEAD COACH
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.
So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?
I'm confused.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.
So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?
I'm confused.
So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?
I'm confused.
my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!
Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.
Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.
These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.
I WANT A HEAD COACH
Did you just say marriuchi?Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!
Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.
Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.
These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.
I WANT A HEAD COACH
And then say you want a proven guy???
He was fired before the end of the season on his last gig.
Take your shit somewhere else would ya.
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Did you just say marriuchi?Here is an idea............. Get a head coach that has been a WINNING head coach in the NFL. Since the Browns have returned, they have hired Palmer, Davis, Crennel. Mangini, Shurmur, and Chudzinski. A list of idiots, losers, bad coaches, and deer in the headlights TOOLS!!!!!!!!
Spend the $20 million and get a a PROVEN guy. Dungy, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Mariucci, .................someone.....ANYONE, besides these so-called hot assistants. The NFL is not for nice guy coaches. Look at the teams that win, their coaches are jerks, mean, and don't sugar coat ANYTHING. Watch a coach presser for NE, GB, NYG, Stoolers, SF, SEA, DEN, Balt, They don't mince words.
Even Dungy, while he's NICE on TV, his players KNOW they are not allowed to fail.
These assistants don't know how to handle a TEAM. They are to involved with their side of the ball.
I WANT A HEAD COACH
And then say you want a proven guy???
He was fired before the end of the season on his last gig.
Take your shit somewhere else would ya.
Did you just say marriuchi?
And then say you want a proven guy???
He was fired before the end of the season on his last gig.
Take your shit somewhere else would ya.
He's better then any of the losers we have had.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.
So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?
I'm confused.
I'm confused.
come on TCPO, we've already been through this. you're a vegas showgirl in the body of a fat tranny vegas showgirl.
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So we should forsake the season in order to get a mid round QB project?
I'm confused.
my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB
Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB
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Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.my point was we need a coach to make the QB. Unless you get a LUCK 1st in the draft, you need a coach to make the QB
Sorry don't buy it. More to it than just a coach with them guys.
Then keep hiring no experience losers. And we will keep losing
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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