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  • Only gotta go 2-12 the rest of the way. Why not? Let's just suck one more year and then maybe we can get a good QB for once.

  • Only gotta go 2-12 the rest of the way. Why not? Let's just suck one more year and then maybe we can get a good QB for once.

    @hunt-daddy said:

    Only gotta go 2-12 the rest of the way. Why not? Let's just suck one more year and then maybe we can get a good QB for once.

    I agree, what's the point of going 4-12, 5-11, 6-10, at best 7-9 every single year? let's just get this over with..

  • A new owner that does not hire dip shits like Dumbanner and Lomtardi

  • A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,

    About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB

  • A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,

    About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB

    @browns149 said:

    A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,

    About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB

    next draft and FA period has to be all offense minded in accruing talent...

  • @browns149 said:

    A coach that has won something in the last ten years. A QB that's not afraid to fail. An OL that can open holes for running and that doesn't give up 5 sacks a week. 2 WR's that can get open AND catch the ball. Another CB that can cover, 2 safety's that can tackle,

    About the ONLY thing we don't need is DL and LB

    next draft and FA period has to be all offense minded in accruing talent...

    @nickers said:

    next draft and FA period has to be all offense minded in accruing talent...

    The thing that gets me, is Holmgren was a west coast offensive guy and he NEVER drafted a decent WR. The west coast offense is ALL about the WR's

  • and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.

    @soju said:

    and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

  • @soju said:

    and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

    @tour2ma said:

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

    was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.

  • @nickers said:

    next draft and FA period has to be all offense minded in accruing talent...

    The thing that gets me, is Holmgren was a west coast offensive guy and he NEVER drafted a decent WR. The west coast offense is ALL about the WR's

    @browns149 said:

    The thing that gets me, is Holmgren was a west coast offensive guy and he NEVER drafted a decent WR. The west coast offense is ALL about the WR's

    Yeah,I never understood what the vision was totally...or so I thought...

  • @soju said:

    and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

    @tour2ma said:

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

    Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.
  • @tour2ma said:

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

    was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.

    @browns149 said:

    was Brees the "one" out of college? or Brady, or Russ Wilson, or Kaepernik.

    no and neither were drafted in round one either.
  • I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...

  • I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...

    @nickers said:

    I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...

    I'm ready... put me in, Coach... 🙂

  • @nickers said:

    I've always said...and I still think the QB to lead this team will come when least expected and in some obscure way...

    I'm ready... put me in, Coach... 🙂

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm ready... put me in, Coach... 🙂

    Don't forget your Chin and Jock strap...you'll need'em both!..LOL!

  • @tour2ma said:

    I keep hearing that and yet every time I check one out I am unimpressed. And, yes, that includes Boyd and Bridgewater...

    I'm still looking for "the one"...

    Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.

    If we draft #1 and get Clowney, that would be so counter-intuitive

  • @erie-dawg said:

    Exactly, haven't heard one single person with any football credibility say the draft is loaded. If I was drafting #1 I'm taking J. Clowney. You don't take a player in the first 10 picks just based on need alone.

    If we draft #1 and get Clowney, that would be so counter-intuitive

    @adoug319 said:

    If we draft #1 and get Clowney, that would be so counter-intuitive

    ok i have a few more minutes please explain
  • DE is not a position of need.

    And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...

  • DE is not a position of need.

    And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...

    @tour2ma said:

    DE is not a position of need.

    And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...

    WR,QB,DB and OL should be the focus of next years draft and FA class...

  • DE is not a position of need.

    And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...

    @tour2ma said:

    DE is not a position of need.

    And you still have 4 minutes 50 left...

    No it isn't, but I see Zero qb's worthy of a top pick. Is their a Fitzgerald or Julio Jones that you see in college that screams #1 playmaker, sorry don't see it.

    Just because a player is projected to be #1 in his draft for his position don't mean he is worth it. The level of talent at every position goes up or down from year to year.

    So If I had the #1 pick I would take clowney and trade away the excess position for more picks if need be. if you follow football and watch how successful teams draft they don't reach on draft picks and find the best talent in the 3rd thru 5th rounds.

    Just take a look at all of the top picks we've had and reached on in the first round that should be enough right there to make you start to understand. That's why you take the safe low risk high reward pick of clowney and trade your players or trade down to the level at which you think the player of need is worth the risk.

    Sometimes BPA is worth doing even in the first round not just position of need.

  • @soju said:

    and don't worry 1000% we are taking best QB availble in next year's draft, which is good bc it's loaded with good ones.

    Pull it back some chief its still way too early, last year matt Barkley was the cream of the crop early on.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Pull it back some chief its still way too early, last year matt Barkley was the cream of the crop early on.

    a man of reason.

    the newbie has 18 posts and they are all about getting a new QB.

    hey junior, how'd kaep do last night with his big strong arm and mobile/getaway ability and all the read option bullshit against a great defense with the best defensive backfield in the league? what did they muster, 3 points? HA!

    GTFO.

    i want. what i want. i want. what i want.

    just cut the shit already. didn't flacco win the super bowl last year? and he's about as mobile as weeden. actually weeden put up better #'s than flacco sunday...-minus the td of course. but blame that on chornivsky. not weeden.

    all you guys just want to keep drafting QBs every fucking year, when we don't know how to draft anyways, just to get pissed at him in his second year and call for the next one in line.

    shut the fuck up already.