Alex Tanney signed as backup QB
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The point I was making is that, in a run oriented league where it was routine to have 8 (even 9) in the box, a smart QB with even marginal talent could have made mince meat of defenses through the air.
Now, it's different. QB's are attending passing camps and 7 on 7 workshops from middle school. They're playing in offenses throwing the ball 40+ times per game, every game, from B-Team football all the way until their senior year of college. By the time a QB reaches the combine, they've thrown somewhere in the vicinity of 5,000 passes in games. That's not including the 60-70 throws in practice every day.
In high school, our QB coach had our QB's throw 30 passes before they could even put on their pads.
Today's QB's are truly experts. Only the best of the best even make it to the league, and only the top 10% of those find any sort of success.
I thought the point you were making was that a QB from a smaller profile school could make it back in the 70s/80s....but could not do so now. Was that not your point?
If not, then my counter of : Flacco/Delaware, Romo/E. Illinois, McCown/Sam Houston St.. Roethlisberger/Miami Oh. etc. would have been misdirected, no?
I thought the point you were making was that a QB from a smaller profile school could make it back in the 70s/80s....but could not do so now. Was that not your point?
If not, then my counter of : Flacco/Delaware, Romo/E. Illinois, McCown/Sam Houston St.. Roethlisberger/Miami Oh. etc. would have been misdirected, no?
It's included in the point. It was much easier to be a QB in the running era, therefore QB's coming from smaller schools had a much easier time making it than they do nowadays.
McCown is hardly "making it", and even still he was taken in the third round. Roethlisberger was a first round pick. Yes, technically a "smaller school QB", but he was recognized early as being a great talent. Hardly flying under the radar. Same for Flacco.
Tony Romo does fit. A UDFA from a FCS school, nobody expected him to be a franchise QB. I maintain that he still isn't one, but that's an argument for a later date.
It's much tougher to be a QB in the NFL in 2013 than it was in 1973. These guys are superior athletic talents, honing their QB skills from a young age. Add to that the fact that scouting in 1973 was a joke, and it all points to the fact that it's much harder for a guy to fall through the cracks now. Good talent is recognized. Sometimes early, sometimes late, but it still tends to be recognized.
The internet age makes scouting a breeze. If you know what you're looking for and have access to game tape, you can be a scout. I can scout hundreds of players without leaving this Starbucks.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Alex Tanney once beat Caleb Hanie at yahtzee
No. We don't do that to Alex Tanney. Only Caleb Hanie.
You don't taint Alex Tanney.
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I thought the point you were making was that a QB from a smaller profile school could make it back in the 70s/80s....but could not do so now. Was that not your point?
If not, then my counter of : Flacco/Delaware, Romo/E. Illinois, McCown/Sam Houston St.. Roethlisberger/Miami Oh. etc. would have been misdirected, no?
It's included in the point. It was much easier to be a QB in the running era, therefore QB's coming from smaller schools had a much easier time making it than they do nowadays.
McCown is hardly "making it", and even still he was taken in the third round. Roethlisberger was a first round pick. Yes, technically a "smaller school QB", but he was recognized early as being a great talent. Hardly flying under the radar. Same for Flacco.
Tony Romo does fit. A UDFA from a FCS school, nobody expected him to be a franchise QB. I maintain that he still isn't one, but that's an argument for a later date.
It's much tougher to be a QB in the NFL in 2013 than it was in 1973. These guys are superior athletic talents, honing their QB skills from a young age. Add to that the fact that scouting in 1973 was a joke, and it all points to the fact that it's much harder for a guy to fall through the cracks now. Good talent is recognized. Sometimes early, sometimes late, but it still tends to be recognized.
The internet age makes scouting a breeze. If you know what you're looking for and have access to game tape, you can be a scout. I can scout hundreds of players without leaving this Starbucks.
It's much tougher to be a QB in the NFL in 2013 than it was in 1973. These guys are superior athletic talents, honing their QB skills from a young age. Add to that the fact that scouting in 1973 was a joke, and it all points to the fact that it's much harder for a guy to fall through the cracks now. Good talent is recognized. Sometimes early, sometimes late, but it still tends to be recognized.The internet age makes scouting a breeze. If you know what you're looking for and have access to game tape, you can be a scout. I can scout hundreds of players without leaving this Starbucks.
Scouting is a breeze in the Internet age? So much improved? Have to disagree. If that were the case there would be zero busts in the first round. Still happens.
So the Browns major failing 1999 on is their assorted FOs and scouting departments can't recognize talent from a hole in the ground. Yup, so easy a Caveman with Internet access can do it. Thanks H & H for giving us Richardson and We-done.
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It's much tougher to be a QB in the NFL in 2013 than it was in 1973. These guys are superior athletic talents, honing their QB skills from a young age. Add to that the fact that scouting in 1973 was a joke, and it all points to the fact that it's much harder for a guy to fall through the cracks now. Good talent is recognized. Sometimes early, sometimes late, but it still tends to be recognized.
The internet age makes scouting a breeze. If you know what you're looking for and have access to game tape, you can be a scout. I can scout hundreds of players without leaving this Starbucks.
Scouting is a breeze in the Internet age? So much improved? Have to disagree. If that were the case there would be zero busts in the first round. Still happens.
So the Browns major failing 1999 on is their assorted FOs and scouting departments can't recognize talent from a hole in the ground. Yup, so easy a Caveman with Internet access can do it. Thanks H & H for giving us Richardson and We-done.
Scouting is a breeze in the Internet age? So much improved? Have to disagree. If that were the case there would be zero busts in the first round. Still happens.
So the Browns major failing 1999 on is their assorted FOs and scouting departments can't recognize talent from a hole in the ground. Yup, so easy a Caveman with Internet access can do it. Thanks H & H for giving us Richardson and We-done.
There's far more busts than there are players with talent that fall through the cracks.
A bust is a bust is a bust. There's nothing you can do to really predict who will bust. Players with the best measurables, best intangibles, coming from the best college programs, turn out to be busts and all for different reasons. Trent Richardson being a bust is completely different than Ryan Leaf being a bust is completely different than Mark Sanchez being a bust.
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Finally was able to watch the trick shot video. Got to say that is some cool shit. Don't know how he will pan out as a QB but I'm willing to give him a try.
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It's kind of the Lombardi M.O.....bring in a young guy who has some talent and give it a look. Maybe you hit on a winner. The older players are pretty well established in what they can do. Now the kid gets 5 games this season and heads in to next season.
Who knows, maybe he is another Kurt Warner who goes from filling grocery bags while waiting for anotther chance to one of the top QB's in the league.
I don't mind long shots at the bottom of the roster and am impressed with the way the team has treated the bottom of the roster. We've made a lot of moves with those last 10 players....and I like it. Do it enough and you are going to pluck a gem every now and then.
We may have plucked one in Rainey, but the coaching staff didn't give it enough of a chance to shine.
Not blaming them, just pointing out the reality.
I doubt Rainey is a real talent. TB has seen success from multiple backs this year.
It makes me really wonder if Muscle Hamster is as good as he seems, or if it's the system.
He may have sucked for us too.
I think Taney's ultimate job is in the Browns' publicity department...
It makes me really wonder if Muscle Hamster is as good as he seems, or if it's the system. He may have sucked for us too.
Hard to know, but if it's the latter... why don't we have one of those systems?
Does anyone think this kid could have "it"?
Could? Yes... Does? No...
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And 1 position will not make or break a great team.XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Tampa Bay has two of the best guards in the NFL.
Or a bad one.
WSS
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And 1 position will not make or break a great team.XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Tampa Bay has two of the best guards in the NFL.
Or a bad one.
WSS
And 1 position will not make or break a great team.
Or a bad one.
WSS
But having 2 good players out of 3 helps the interior run game.
That's the point.
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And 1 position will not make or break a great team.
Or a bad one.
WSS
But having 2 good players out of 3 helps the interior run game.
That's the point.
But having 2 good players out of 3 helps the interior run game.
That's the point.
It seemed to me that the point was to let everyone who wanted to draft a guard know that Tampa Bay has good cards and they still suck. I didn't really see anything else in the post so who knows...
WSS
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But having 2 good players out of 3 helps the interior run game.
That's the point.
It seemed to me that the point was to let everyone who wanted to draft a guard know that Tampa Bay has good cards and they still suck. I didn't really see anything else in the post so who knows...
WSS
It seemed to me that the point was to let everyone who wanted to draft a guard know that Tampa Bay has good cards and they still suck. I didn't really see anything else in the post so who knows...
WSS
I assumed the point was to show that when you have two good guards, you can have three different RB's have 200 yard games.
TB has about 25 different reasons why they suck.
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It seemed to me that the point was to let everyone who wanted to draft a guard know that Tampa Bay has good cards and they still suck. I didn't really see anything else in the post so who knows...
WSS
I assumed the point was to show that when you have two good guards, you can have three different RB's have 200 yard games.
TB has about 25 different reasons why they suck.
that was the point. Tampa started off terribly because of bad QB play and horrible defense.I assumed the point was to show that when you have two good guards, you can have three different RB's have 200 yard games.
TB has about 25 different reasons why they suck.
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god damn finally someone gets it.
fuck all you 'one player makes the team', motherfuckers. if that was the case tim couch would've taken us to the superbowl.
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