What's Wrong With Ray Horton?
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To be fair, our D scored 14 points for us today. Final score would have been 38-17 without that. I agree they seem to melt in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but when Haden went out we were toast against the Bears WRs.
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To be fair, our D scored 14 points for us today. Final score would have been 38-17 without that. I agree they seem to melt in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but when Haden went out we were toast against the Bears WRs.
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I would rather these guys build their own team for the long haul rather than shoehorn some misfits in just to win a couple extra meaningless games. If the North is even weaker next year than it has been this year, I still don't want to us ass end it into the playoffs just so we can get utterly demolished in the first round. When we make the playoffs, I want us to be legit.
I would rather these guys build their own team for the long haul rather than shoehorn some misfits in just to win a couple extra meaningless games. If the North is even weaker next year than it has been this year, I still don't want to us ass end it into the playoffs just so we can get utterly demolished in the first round. When we make the playoffs, I want us to be legit.
Yup... no shortcuts...
... 2 things were mentioned in the tavern that probably rang true throughout the game. one was the loose zone coverage that we were playing.
BUT anyone who disagrees that we should've never gotten krueger and that we don't need a CB (legit, no miss pick) you are fucking insane.
Well... guess I am officially insane...
And that "loose zone coverage" being decried in the Tavern was in actuality responsible for two turnovers. It was the way to play a rusty QB on a windy day. It put DBs in position for tipped ball INTs.
Yeah he looked terrible, but it was really windy down there. Cutler was missing throws too
Jason seemed to be unengaged again today... just odd... But he does not throw a penetrating ball and was having big issues both into and cross wind.
Cutler does throw a penetrating ball, but had issues throwing with the wind. Plus we have to remember that one of Jay's TD passes was disguised as a punt.
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To be fair, our D scored 14 points for us today. Final score would have been 38-17 without that. I agree they seem to melt in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but when Haden went out we were toast against the Bears WRs.
To be fair, our D scored 14 points for us today. Final score would have been 38-17 without that. I agree they seem to melt in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but when Haden went out we were toast against the Bears WRs.
Yes... No doubt that Haden's loss hurt us.
Also hurt that Forte ran for 127 yds...
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I hope not, because what you're saying then is that the Ravens and Steelers have hit rock bottom this year. I hope the suffering lasts longer than that.
I hope not, because what you're saying then is that the Ravens and Steelers have hit rock bottom this year. I hope the suffering lasts longer than that.
well, as long as the Refs are going to let the Squealers take opposing players heads off with no-calls, (took the Bengals punter out with a Campbell style cheap shot)- they;ll be right in the thick of things.
Zombo said:
We suck.
The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.
Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.
Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.
Zombo
We are what our record says we are. The mighty defense yet again can't hold a lead.
And that "loose zone coverage" being decried in the Tavern was in actuality responsible for two turnovers. It was the way to play a rusty QB on a windy day. It put DBs in position for tipped ball INTs.
Jason seemed to be unengaged again today... just odd... But he does not throw a penetrating ball and was having big issues both into and cross wind.
Cutler does throw a penetrating ball, but had issues throwing with the wind. Plus we have to remember that one of Jay's TD passes was disguised as a punt.
excuse me, but no excuse for giving a guy a 10- yard cushion on third and seven.
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Browns have given up scoring drives on 8 of 9 drives in the 4th quarter of the last 3 games.
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How many TD's has Haden given up this year? 8? 9?
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I hope not, because what you're saying then is that the Ravens and Steelers have hit rock bottom this year. I hope the suffering lasts longer than that.
well, as long as the Refs are going to let the Squealers take opposing players heads off with no-calls, (took the Bengals punter out with a Campbell style cheap shot)- they;ll be right in the thick of things.
Zombo said:
We suck.
The 2013 Cleveland Browns blow.
Josh Gordon, Jordon Cameron. Phil Taylor , Joe Haden and TJ Ward are good.
Everybody else is interchangeable/subpar.
Zombo
We are what our record says we are. The mighty defense yet again can't hold a lead.
And that "loose zone coverage" being decried in the Tavern was in actuality responsible for two turnovers. It was the way to play a rusty QB on a windy day. It put DBs in position for tipped ball INTs.
Jason seemed to be unengaged again today... just odd... But he does not throw a penetrating ball and was having big issues both into and cross wind.
Cutler does throw a penetrating ball, but had issues throwing with the wind. Plus we have to remember that one of Jay's TD passes was disguised as a punt.
excuse me, but no excuse for giving a guy a 10- yard cushion on third and seven.
well, as long as the Refs are going to let the Squealers take opposing players heads off with no-calls, (took the Bengals punter out with a Campbell style cheap shot)- they;ll be right in the thick of things.
Holy shite you got that right. I can't believe they let that one go. And I mean that for any team, not just because it was the Stoolers.
Another thing that caught my eye (I only saw the last few minutes of the game, just got back home from the long drive from Cleveland)...the final drive for Cincy to try and stay in the game...Dalton threw to AJ Green and Polamalu had a hand in there chopping at AJ's hands as he was trying to reach for the ball. Last week's Patriots game...McFadden wasn't nearly as aggressive as that and gets the PI call.
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We don't have anyone that can do that. All our lb's are slow. They can't cover Te's let alone rb's
Behind QB I believe a quality inside LB may be our top draft priority.
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Agreed. We'll see what free agency & possible trades bring, but QB, WR, & ILB DO appear to top the list.
Mike
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Don't worry.At his weekly press conference this week Ray Horton will tell us how
great his defense is pulling out a remarkable stat that the Browns defense is #1 in
the league on third and long in the third quarter during November when it is sunny
and the wind is less than 10mph on their home field going south blah,blah,blah.
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Agreed. We'll see what free agency & possible trades bring, but QB, WR, & ILB DO appear to top the list.
Mike
Agreed. We'll see what free agency & possible trades bring, but QB, WR, & ILB DO appear to top the list.
Mike
CB should be high on the list too
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