Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Well, BK was a FA I believe- and yes I was rooting for Bernie to do well- just to spite Bill B, but I didn't become a Cowboys fan. Call it casual interest.
Yea, well, think about it, BB cut BK in favor of Todd Philcox. Do you think Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones would have given Todd Philcox a contract for a million dollars to play backup for the rest of that season for them? Unlikely.
So, yes, that sparked some interest in how Bernie would do that year. But I still was rooting for the Bills to win that year, not the Cowboys.
But, you know....in a sense, I am somewhat just like Everlast........He is rooting for the QB that came from his school (I assume T-A&M is his school) that was drafted by the Browns.
I too had the opportunity to root for a QB from my school that was drafted by the Browns.......by the name of Charlie Frye. And we know how that turned out.
Let's hope that JFF does not turn out to be the next Charlie Frye.
(but, you know, I am fearful there is a chance he just might)
Yea, well, think about it, BB cut BK in favor of Todd Philcox. Do you think Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones would have given Todd Philcox a contract for a million dollars to play backup for the rest of that season for them? Unlikely.
So, yes, that sparked some interest in how Bernie would do that year. But I still was rooting for the Bills to win that year, not the Cowboys.
But, you know....in a sense, I am somewhat just like Everlast........He is rooting for the QB that came from his school (I assume T-A&M is his school) that was drafted by the Browns.
I too had the opportunity to root for a QB from my school that was drafted by the Browns.......by the name of Charlie Frye. And we know how that turned out.
Let's hope that JFF does not turn out to be the next Charlie Frye.
(but, you know, I am fearful there is a chance he just might)
Charlie's Fryes. I remember it well.
I have nothing but a hunch that Johnny Football is going to be a great Quarterback. Think he will be the starter after Bye week.
If the Browns are 0-3 you're going to get your wish.
There is only 1 QB on the roster with the upside to win a Super Bowl.
What else matters?
A little less JFF love and more objectivity would be a start. Hey, I'm an Ohio State homer- remember Dan Wilkinson (doubtful) the next Bruce Smith? Didn't quite work out that way.
Two words- Kurt Warner. Remember him? Grocery bagger washout. BTW, the Browns passed on him in the expansion draft his stock was so low.
You Johnny lovers gonna have conniptions when he doesn't start day 1? Here's a clue- it's Training Camp- preseason- which doesn't mean jack shit when the REAL season starts. If you Johnny homos start creaming your pants over his amazing exploits in the next couple months, I'm not quite certain what us Mods will have to do.
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Yea, well, think about it, BB cut BK in favor of Todd Philcox. Do you think Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones would have given Todd Philcox a contract for a million dollars to play backup for the rest of that season for them? Unlikely.
So, yes, that sparked some interest in how Bernie would do that year. But I still was rooting for the Bills to win that year, not the Cowboys.
But, you know....in a sense, I am somewhat just like Everlast........He is rooting for the QB that came from his school (I assume T-A&M is his school) that was drafted by the Browns.
I too had the opportunity to root for a QB from my school that was drafted by the Browns.......by the name of Charlie Frye. And we know how that turned out.
Let's hope that JFF does not turn out to be the next Charlie Frye.
(but, you know, I am fearful there is a chance he just might)
Charlie's Fryes. I remember it well.
I have nothing but a hunch that Johnny Football is going to be a great Quarterback. Think he will be the starter after Bye week.
If the Browns are 0-3 you're going to get your wish.
There is only 1 QB on the roster with the upside to win a Super Bowl.
What else matters?
A little less JFF love and more objectivity would be a start. Hey, I'm an Ohio State homer- remember Dan Wilkinson (doubtful) the next Bruce Smith? Didn't quite work out that way.
Two words- Kurt Warner. Remember him? Grocery bagger washout. BTW, the Browns passed on him in the expansion draft his stock was so low.
You Johnny lovers gonna have conniptions when he doesn't start day 1? Here's a clue- it's Training Camp- preseason- which doesn't mean jack shit when the REAL season starts. If you Johnny homos start creaming your pants over his amazing exploits in the next couple months, I'm not quite certain what us Mods will have to do.
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this season he will fit nicely between the QB coach and the 3rd stringer on the sidelines holding a clipboard.
just a little punch in the gut to start the day....
morning!!
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@douche-nozzle said:
If Al Davis were alive he would fit nicely in the black hole
al davis butt fuck joke. really?
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@everlastingxxx said:
“When he walked down the street people would’ve looked and they would’ve said there goes Johnny Manziel, the best there was in this game.”
So? You think he can outdo OGs record of 7 titles in 10 years?
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@douche-nozzle said:
If Al Davis were alive he would fit nicely in the black hole
The Black Hole is where the Raiders fans congregate. Are you saying that he would be no better than some fan?
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@douche-nozzle said:
It's a moot point. It's like asking "do you walk to work or carry your lunch". The common denominator is pretty easy to find
Johnny
Brandon
Brady
Tim
What is that common denominator? Just the fact that they were all first round QB picks by the Browns? By your comment are you implying that JFF will go the route of Quinn/Weeden?
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@douche-nozzle said:
The debate seems to be whether he will be a super star this year or if it will take a year or two? Is there a chance he becomes the latest bust in a long line of QB's in Cleveland?
Is it possible the NFL will be too fast, too strong, too smart, for him?
Is it possible his lifestyle will be what he ends up being known best for?
Is it possible the Browns use him incorrectly and destroy his chance at stardom?
The answer is certainly yes to all those questions. Anything IS possible....including that he could become a Superstar....or maybe a decent QB.
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Aside:
Can't wait for the 2014 edition of "This Week in the AFCN".
You're goin' down... at least vs. the spread...
I'm going to Vegas during prime NFL season in early November so I can't wait to start practicing with the browns board spread this year. I bet last year and failed epically so I'm going to pay a lot closer attention to how it all usually breaks down.
I'm going to Vegas during prime NFL season in early November so I can't wait to start practicing with the browns board spread this year. I bet last year and failed epically so I'm going to pay a lot closer attention to how it all usually breaks down.
In the Yahoo game we use Yahoo's line. I use it in the AFCN picks as well while Z uses a mystery line...
This site gives all the casino lines.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/
When Bernie was traded to Dallas, I was pissed, but I didn't become a Cowboys fan.
Therefore you were a Bernie hater...
There is only 1 QB on the roster with the upside to win a Super Bowl.
What else matters?
That the upside you see is real and not a mirage?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
If he keeps his head on a swivel and doesn't do anything dumb... The sky is the limit for the DragonSlayer.
If he keeps his head on a swivel and doesn't do anything dumb... The sky is the limit for the DragonSlayer.
Peter MacNicol is our QB? Pa-pa-pa-pa-Poughkeepsie...
Yeah- Grahams accomplishments get lost in the mists of time. Graham played in the highest level Championship game every year he played professional football.
Yup... while we may know he was great, we don't remember how dominant he was.
But to me even more startling in that Wiki-chart is that our two, modern-day icons were both a mere 2 games over .500. While three names only those of us of a certain age even know all won at least two-thirds of their games.
@everlastingxxx said:
“When he walked down the street people would’ve looked and they would’ve said there goes Johnny Manziel, the best there was in this game.”
Would've??? Damn, I thought JM was a lock, but instead he's football's Roy Hobbs?
You'd better pray for the movie version. Things did not work out so well for either the book Hobbs or the real life inspiration for the novel, Eddie Waitkus.
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Johhn is the last guy on this video, and he kinda rubs me the wrong way in it. Hoyer was all upbeat and JF just looked like a dick.
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Johhn is the last guy on this video, and he kinda rubs me the wrong way in it. Hoyer was all upbeat and JF just looked like a dick.
Johhn is the last guy on this video, and he kinda rubs me the wrong way in it. Hoyer was all upbeat and JF just looked like a dick.
I didn't watch the video but I think thats just his face.
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He is sorta dickfaced.
Johnny the dickfaced midget.
Still reminds me of Tarkenton though ... and for you youngsters ... that's a good thing.
Z
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apparently it's logical to think the Browns drafted a QB in the 1st who doesn't have the upside of being able to win a super bowl.
this is just Retarded. fan boy this, fan boy that.
i'm arguing with women.
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Yea, well, think about it, BB cut BK in favor of Todd Philcox. Do you think Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones would have given Todd Philcox a contract for a million dollars to play backup for the rest of that season for them? Unlikely.
So, yes, that sparked some interest in how Bernie would do that year. But I still was rooting for the Bills to win that year, not the Cowboys.
But, you know....in a sense, I am somewhat just like Everlast........He is rooting for the QB that came from his school (I assume T-A&M is his school) that was drafted by the Browns.
I too had the opportunity to root for a QB from my school that was drafted by the Browns.......by the name of Charlie Frye. And we know how that turned out.
Let's hope that JFF does not turn out to be the next Charlie Frye.
(but, you know, I am fearful there is a chance he just might)
Charlie's Fryes. I remember it well.
I have nothing but a hunch that Johnny Football is going to be a great Quarterback. Think he will be the starter after Bye week.
If the Browns are 0-3 you're going to get your wish.
There is only 1 QB on the roster with the upside to win a Super Bowl.
What else matters?
A little less JFF love and more objectivity would be a start. Hey, I'm an Ohio State homer- remember Dan Wilkinson (doubtful) the next Bruce Smith? Didn't quite work out that way.
Two words- Kurt Warner. Remember him? Grocery bagger washout. BTW, the Browns passed on him in the expansion draft his stock was so low.
You Johnny lovers gonna have conniptions when he doesn't start day 1? Here's a clue- it's Training Camp- preseason- which doesn't mean jack shit when the REAL season starts. If you Johnny homos start creaming your pants over his amazing exploits in the next couple months, I'm not quite certain what us Mods will have to do.
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apparently it's logical to think the Browns drafted a QB in the 1st who doesn't have the upside of being able to win a super bowl.
this is just Retarded. fan boy this, fan boy that.
i'm arguing with women.
apparently it's logical to think the Browns drafted a QB in the 1st who doesn't have the upside of being able to win a super bowl.
this is just Retarded. fan boy this, fan boy that.
i'm arguing with women.
Nope, it's just after (I think it's up to something like 23) different quarterbacks since 1999 come in and flop, we tend to analyze their weaknesses rather harshly. Like JFF has no holes in his game? So, he might, possibly be good enough to win a Super Bowl eventually- with the proper talent around him. You're assuming he's going to be great- going by past draft stats, there's a 33% chance of that. There's also around a 33% bust rate for first round quarterbacks, in case you didn't realize. Nope, no way Johnny could possibly bust. Well, we've seen too much of that to totally discount the possibility.
Even having a great qb is no guarantee you're going to get to the Promised Land. Just ask the Patriots, Niners, Lions and Falcons. Their quarterbacks until your man crush proves differently- are on another planet compared to him.
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apparently it's logical to think the Browns drafted a QB in the 1st who doesn't have the upside of being able to win a super bowl.
this is just Retarded. fan boy this, fan boy that.
i'm arguing with women.
Nope, it's just after (I think it's up to something like 23) different quarterbacks since 1999 come in and flop, we tend to analyze their weaknesses rather harshly. Like JFF has no holes in his game? So, he might, possibly be good enough to win a Super Bowl eventually- with the proper talent around him. You're assuming he's going to be great- going by past draft stats, there's a 33% chance of that. There's also around a 33% bust rate for first round quarterbacks, in case you didn't realize. Nope, no way Johnny could possibly bust. Well, we've seen too much of that to totally discount the possibility.
Even having a great qb is no guarantee you're going to get to the Promised Land. Just ask the Patriots, Niners, Lions and Falcons. Their quarterbacks until your man crush proves differently- are on another planet compared to him.
Nope, it's just after (I think it's up to something like 23) different quarterbacks since 1999 come in and flop, we tend to analyze their weaknesses rather harshly. Like JFF has no holes in his game? So, he might, possibly be good enough to win a Super Bowl eventually- with the proper talent around him. You're assuming he's going to be great- going by past draft stats, there's a 33% chance of that. There's also around a 33% bust rate for first round quarterbacks, in case you didn't realize. Nope, no way Johnny could possibly bust. Well, we've seen too much of that to totally discount the possibility.
Even having a great qb is no guarantee you're going to get to the Promised Land. Just ask the Patriots, Niners, Lions and Falcons. Their quarterbacks until your man crush proves differently- are on another planet compared to him.
Hey now, he's a Cowboy fan. They know good QB play when they see it. I mean they always support their QB, especially when he is the only reason they've been lucky enough to pull of 8-8 for the past 5-20 years.
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now that jim brown opened his yap about manziel there is NO pressure on the FO to lean towards manziel, huh?
dude needs to keep his mouth shut and let people do their jobs.
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He is sorta dickfaced.
Johnny the dickfaced midget.
Still reminds me of Tarkenton though ... and for you youngsters ... that's a good thing.
Z
Zombo said:
He is sorta dickfaced.
Johnny the dickfaced midget.
Still reminds me of Tarkenton though ... and for you youngsters ... that's a good thing.
Z
I remember Tarkenton when I was a kid..if JFF is anything remotely close to FT..were gonna have some rolicking fun..But I'm down with Hoyer as the season opener starter..If we sit Manziel for a season or 2..I wont be upset with that but, common sense us tells he'll start sooner rather than later.,,And great thread Gipper..I enjoyed this one...
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