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Stockton Shorts Discusses Brian Hoyer

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  • So we shouldn't win unless Manziels playing. And everybody who disagrees is an idiot. Got it.

    @bbedward said:

    So we shouldn't win unless Manziels playing. And everybody who disagrees is an idiot. Got it.

    Yep...He's a dickhead. He's even worse than our old friend Lumburgh the Derek Anderson homo. At least Lumburgh was funny from time to time. This assclowns act is just repetitive and boring.

  • Retard daddy must be Stuckin Shorts, cause the best part of Stockton must have ran down his daddies leg and got stuck in his shorts. What an obnoxious, self centered, egotistical, ill mannered, pessimistic dolt.

  • Retard daddy must be Stuckin Shorts, cause the best part of Stockton must have ran down his daddies leg and got stuck in his shorts. What an obnoxious, self centered, egotistical, ill mannered, pessimistic dolt.

    @darkside5 said:

    What an obnoxious, self centered, egotistical, ill mannered, pessimistic dolt.

    History will be kind to your statement, Darkside.

    Zombo

  • So...

    Stocky is mad because I can lick my balls and he can't?

  • FWIW, take out the Jacksonville game and Hoyer's stats this season are:

    61.6 % comp, 8 TD, 1 INT, 0 fumbles, 250 ypg (and team +7 turnover margin)

    editorial note - "quarterback rating" is a joint CIA-communist plot.

    The 2nd Steeler game hurts, too, but the Browns could run the single wing with the QB lead blocking the whole game, complete 0 passes, and quick kicks on third downs, and if it's Browns 31, Steelers 10, it's all good. (Basically the same argument as "Hoyer's 7-3, all other QBs since '99 are 74-161" - which shouldn't automatically mean, "Hoyer's the man for the next 5 years! Sign him for $80 million!" but I'm happy with, "let's see if it keeps going.")

    About every NFL team can make the same argument, but the Browns could be anywhere from 6-1 to 2-5. Pittsburgh week 1 and vs. Baltimore were more on the defense than Hoyer, so with that spin, Hoyer was crap vs. Jacksonville and done enough to win the other six games.

    Specifically, if we're 6-3 and 1st in the division after Thursday, who thinks we should make a switch at that point? So hum the Brian Hoyer/Hallelujah song and just watch the fucking games for at least the next two games.

  • As bad as Hoyer has been on thrid down, Johnny is still his back-up.

    What does that say about Johnny?

  • FWIW, take out the Jacksonville game and Hoyer's stats this season are:

    61.6 % comp, 8 TD, 1 INT, 0 fumbles, 250 ypg (and team +7 turnover margin)

    editorial note - "quarterback rating" is a joint CIA-communist plot.

    The 2nd Steeler game hurts, too, but the Browns could run the single wing with the QB lead blocking the whole game, complete 0 passes, and quick kicks on third downs, and if it's Browns 31, Steelers 10, it's all good. (Basically the same argument as "Hoyer's 7-3, all other QBs since '99 are 74-161" - which shouldn't automatically mean, "Hoyer's the man for the next 5 years! Sign him for $80 million!" but I'm happy with, "let's see if it keeps going.")

    About every NFL team can make the same argument, but the Browns could be anywhere from 6-1 to 2-5. Pittsburgh week 1 and vs. Baltimore were more on the defense than Hoyer, so with that spin, Hoyer was crap vs. Jacksonville and done enough to win the other six games.

    Specifically, if we're 6-3 and 1st in the division after Thursday, who thinks we should make a switch at that point? So hum the Brian Hoyer/Hallelujah song and just watch the fucking games for at least the next two games.

    @andruw-u said:

    FWIW, take out the Jacksonville game and Hoyer's stats this season are:

    61.6 % comp, 8 TD, 1 INT, 0 fumbles, 250 ypg (and team +7 turnover margin)

    Only Stocky is allowed to cherry-pick his data...

    @browns149 said:

    As bad as Hoyer has been on thrid down, Johnny is still his back-up.

    What does that say about Johnny?

    It's not what it says about JM. It's what it says about you insisting to bring performance into a conversation that is really about "vision"...

  • Most Browns fans are tired of rebuilding. It's always "wait until next year....". The Browns are finally in a position to win NOW. Why push the reset button yet again with a new starting QB? They had a QB competition and Hoyer won, Hoyer puts the Browns in the best position to win RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for next year.

    Remember all the other rookie QBs the Browns drafted that were supposed to save the team? It's refreshing to actually have a rookie learn before throwing him in the AFC north and hoping for the best. It'd be one thing if Johnny lit it up during preseason and was shown to be NFL ready, but he hasn't. Even in the few "Johnny packages" the Browns ran with him he didn't do anything spectacular that screamed FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Relax, let him learn under Hoyer, enjoy the wins and let's not ruin another QB.

  • jerry jones will be calling soon when he realized weeden is a dolt with a strong arm and romo's days are numbered.

  • Most Browns fans are tired of rebuilding. It's always "wait until next year....". The Browns are finally in a position to win NOW. Why push the reset button yet again with a new starting QB? They had a QB competition and Hoyer won, Hoyer puts the Browns in the best position to win RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for next year.

    Remember all the other rookie QBs the Browns drafted that were supposed to save the team? It's refreshing to actually have a rookie learn before throwing him in the AFC north and hoping for the best. It'd be one thing if Johnny lit it up during preseason and was shown to be NFL ready, but he hasn't. Even in the few "Johnny packages" the Browns ran with him he didn't do anything spectacular that screamed FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Relax, let him learn under Hoyer, enjoy the wins and let's not ruin another QB.

    @browns1216 said:

    Most Browns fans are tired of rebuilding. It's always "wait until next year....". The Browns are finally in a position to win NOW. Why push the reset button yet again with a new starting QB? They had a QB competition and Hoyer won, Hoyer puts the Browns in the best position to win RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for next year.

    Remember all the other rookie QBs the Browns drafted that were supposed to save the team? It's refreshing to actually have a rookie learn before throwing him in the AFC north and hoping for the best. It'd be one thing if Johnny lit it up during preseason and was shown to be NFL ready, but he hasn't. Even in the few "Johnny packages" the Browns ran with him he didn't do anything spectacular that screamed FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Relax, let him learn under Hoyer, enjoy the wins and let's not ruin another QB.

    +1 on that.

    For a long time, all people talked about was how we ruined Couch, McCoy & Weeden by rushing them in before they were ready and playing them before we had the right talent around them.

    But, NOW, we're hearing how we should rush JFF in, so he can learn under fire. Makes zero sense. It's just more stupid shit swirling around and around the bowl.

  • jerry jones will be calling soon when he realized weeden is a dolt with a strong arm and romo's days are numbered.

    @miktoxic said:

    jerry jones will be calling soon when he realized weeden is a dolt with a strong arm and romo's days are numbered.

    I wouldn't bet against it. I'll send them JFF for the Cowboys first rounder next year.

  • @miktoxic said:

    jerry jones will be calling soon when he realized weeden is a dolt with a strong arm and romo's days are numbered.

    I wouldn't bet against it. I'll send them JFF for the Cowboys first rounder next year.

    @mark-o said:

    I wouldn't bet against it. I'll send them JFF for the Cowboys first rounder next year.

    Even with Dustin Vaughn waiting in the wings?

    Vaughan, Dustin QB 6-5 233 23 R West Texas A&M

  • Did Brian Hoyer just get criticized on Tailgate for NOT going to the Cavs game Thursday?!? Some people really need to get a grasp on reality.

  • Did Brian Hoyer just get criticized on Tailgate for NOT going to the Cavs game Thursday?!? Some people really need to get a grasp on reality.

    @ramblin said:

    Did Brian Hoyer just get criticized on Tailgate for NOT going to the Cavs game Thursday?!?

    Was it by a caller named Stockton?

    Can't wait for this week's breakdown...

  • Brian Hoyer had the most yards of all the QB's in the early games if I just saw that list correctly..

  • ......... and he's now 8-3 as the Browns' starting QB. He threw for 300yds today, on a day they couldn't run and were missing their Pro Bowl Center, TE and WR from last year.

  • Hoyer had a good game. Demonstrated his mobility, One bad throw to benji early that was incomplete, the first pick was flat out bad, and the 2nd pick was more or less a bad play call by shanny - but not a bad throw.

  • Keep wagging your tails in the car.


    This is not a playoff team, Browns are wasting their time.


    Hoyer struggles with a TB secondary that gave up what 5 TDs to Flacco in the first half? Atlanta dropped 59 on them? Browns need missed FG, Blocked FG, Blocked Punt, INT in the endzone to hold on to beat TB.


    The fact you see today as a positive only shows how small you think.


    Miller Light in a Champaign League.

  • 8-3 as a starting quarterback...dickhead.

  • Keep wagging your tails in the car.


    This is not a playoff team, Browns are wasting their time.


    Hoyer struggles with a TB secondary that gave up what 5 TDs to Flacco in the first half? Atlanta dropped 59 on them? Browns need missed FG, Blocked FG, Blocked Punt, INT in the endzone to hold on to beat TB.


    The fact you see today as a positive only shows how small you think.


    Miller Light in a Champaign League.

    @stocktonshorts said:

    Keep wagging your tails in the car.

    This is not a playoff team, Browns are wasting their time.

    Hoyer struggles with a TB secondary that gave up what 5 TDs to Flacco in the first half? Atlanta dropped 59 on them? Browns need missed FG, Blocked FG, Blocked Punt, INT in the endzone to hold on to beat TB.

    The fact you see today as a positive only shows how small you think.

    Miller Light in a Champaign League.

    Hoyer had to extend many plays to get the ball off, and we had 50 pathetic rushing yards.