Stockton Shorts Discusses Brian Hoyer
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FWIW, take out the Jacksonville game and Hoyer's stats this season are:
61.6 % comp, 8 TD, 1 INT, 0 fumbles, 250 ypg (and team +7 turnover margin)
editorial note - "quarterback rating" is a joint CIA-communist plot.
The 2nd Steeler game hurts, too, but the Browns could run the single wing with the QB lead blocking the whole game, complete 0 passes, and quick kicks on third downs, and if it's Browns 31, Steelers 10, it's all good. (Basically the same argument as "Hoyer's 7-3, all other QBs since '99 are 74-161" - which shouldn't automatically mean, "Hoyer's the man for the next 5 years! Sign him for $80 million!" but I'm happy with, "let's see if it keeps going.")
About every NFL team can make the same argument, but the Browns could be anywhere from 6-1 to 2-5. Pittsburgh week 1 and vs. Baltimore were more on the defense than Hoyer, so with that spin, Hoyer was crap vs. Jacksonville and done enough to win the other six games.
Specifically, if we're 6-3 and 1st in the division after Thursday, who thinks we should make a switch at that point? So hum the Brian Hoyer/Hallelujah song and just watch the fucking games for at least the next two games.
FWIW, take out the Jacksonville game and Hoyer's stats this season are:
61.6 % comp, 8 TD, 1 INT, 0 fumbles, 250 ypg (and team +7 turnover margin)
Only Stocky is allowed to cherry-pick his data...
As bad as Hoyer has been on thrid down, Johnny is still his back-up.
What does that say about Johnny?
It's not what it says about JM. It's what it says about you insisting to bring performance into a conversation that is really about "vision"...
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Most Browns fans are tired of rebuilding. It's always "wait until next year....". The Browns are finally in a position to win NOW. Why push the reset button yet again with a new starting QB? They had a QB competition and Hoyer won, Hoyer puts the Browns in the best position to win RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for next year.
Remember all the other rookie QBs the Browns drafted that were supposed to save the team? It's refreshing to actually have a rookie learn before throwing him in the AFC north and hoping for the best. It'd be one thing if Johnny lit it up during preseason and was shown to be NFL ready, but he hasn't. Even in the few "Johnny packages" the Browns ran with him he didn't do anything spectacular that screamed FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Relax, let him learn under Hoyer, enjoy the wins and let's not ruin another QB.
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jerry jones will be calling soon when he realized weeden is a dolt with a strong arm and romo's days are numbered.
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Most Browns fans are tired of rebuilding. It's always "wait until next year....". The Browns are finally in a position to win NOW. Why push the reset button yet again with a new starting QB? They had a QB competition and Hoyer won, Hoyer puts the Browns in the best position to win RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for next year.
Remember all the other rookie QBs the Browns drafted that were supposed to save the team? It's refreshing to actually have a rookie learn before throwing him in the AFC north and hoping for the best. It'd be one thing if Johnny lit it up during preseason and was shown to be NFL ready, but he hasn't. Even in the few "Johnny packages" the Browns ran with him he didn't do anything spectacular that screamed FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Relax, let him learn under Hoyer, enjoy the wins and let's not ruin another QB.
Most Browns fans are tired of rebuilding. It's always "wait until next year....". The Browns are finally in a position to win NOW. Why push the reset button yet again with a new starting QB? They had a QB competition and Hoyer won, Hoyer puts the Browns in the best position to win RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for next year.
Remember all the other rookie QBs the Browns drafted that were supposed to save the team? It's refreshing to actually have a rookie learn before throwing him in the AFC north and hoping for the best. It'd be one thing if Johnny lit it up during preseason and was shown to be NFL ready, but he hasn't. Even in the few "Johnny packages" the Browns ran with him he didn't do anything spectacular that screamed FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Relax, let him learn under Hoyer, enjoy the wins and let's not ruin another QB.
+1 on that.
For a long time, all people talked about was how we ruined Couch, McCoy & Weeden by rushing them in before they were ready and playing them before we had the right talent around them.
But, NOW, we're hearing how we should rush JFF in, so he can learn under fire. Makes zero sense. It's just more stupid shit swirling around and around the bowl.
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jerry jones will be calling soon when he realized weeden is a dolt with a strong arm and romo's days are numbered.
jerry jones will be calling soon when he realized weeden is a dolt with a strong arm and romo's days are numbered.
I wouldn't bet against it. I'll send them JFF for the Cowboys first rounder next year.
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Did Brian Hoyer just get criticized on Tailgate for NOT going to the Cavs game Thursday?!? Some people really need to get a grasp on reality.
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Hoyer had a good game. Demonstrated his mobility, One bad throw to benji early that was incomplete, the first pick was flat out bad, and the 2nd pick was more or less a bad play call by shanny - but not a bad throw.
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Keep wagging your tails in the car.
This is not a playoff team, Browns are wasting their time.
Hoyer struggles with a TB secondary that gave up what 5 TDs to Flacco in the first half? Atlanta dropped 59 on them? Browns need missed FG, Blocked FG, Blocked Punt, INT in the endzone to hold on to beat TB.
The fact you see today as a positive only shows how small you think.
Miller Light in a Champaign League. -
Keep wagging your tails in the car.
This is not a playoff team, Browns are wasting their time.
Hoyer struggles with a TB secondary that gave up what 5 TDs to Flacco in the first half? Atlanta dropped 59 on them? Browns need missed FG, Blocked FG, Blocked Punt, INT in the endzone to hold on to beat TB.
The fact you see today as a positive only shows how small you think.
Miller Light in a Champaign League.Keep wagging your tails in the car.
This is not a playoff team, Browns are wasting their time.
Hoyer struggles with a TB secondary that gave up what 5 TDs to Flacco in the first half? Atlanta dropped 59 on them? Browns need missed FG, Blocked FG, Blocked Punt, INT in the endzone to hold on to beat TB.
The fact you see today as a positive only shows how small you think.
Miller Light in a Champaign League.
Hoyer had to extend many plays to get the ball off, and we had 50 pathetic rushing yards.
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8-3 as a starting quarterback...dickhead.
Might want to get that framed (and keep counting Buffalo last year)
It's about to change rapidly.
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Might want to get that framed (and keep counting Buffalo last year)
It's about to change rapidly.
Keep rooting against the Browns so your boyfriend can start playing. And fine...7-3 as a starter dickhead... 5-3 this year. True Browns fans are enjoying the fact that the team is in the hunt at the half way point in the season. The only ones not happy about the team having a winning record are you Johnny Manziel fags.
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Might want to get that framed (and keep counting Buffalo last year)
It's about to change rapidly.
Keep rooting against the Browns so your boyfriend can start playing. And fine...7-3 as a starter dickhead... 5-3 this year. True Browns fans are enjoying the fact that the team is in the hunt at the half way point in the season. The only ones not happy about the team having a winning record are you Johnny Manziel fags.
Keep rooting against the Browns so your boyfriend can start playing. And fine...7-3 as a starter dickhead... 5-3 this year. True Browns fans are enjoying the fact that the team is in the hunt at the half way point in the season. The only ones not happy about the team having a winning record are you Johnny Manziel fags.
Then True Browns fan are too dumb to realize that 2007 set the Browns back 5 years. This year is going to do the same damage. We're not contenders, we're builders and we're delaying the process and wasting time. Now everyone we just bought on defense is going to be a year older when we have to restart.
This team doesn't make the playoffs. Not a contender. Just played the 3 worst teams in the NFL and struggled against all 3. Easiest schedule in the NFL and with 5 home games we're 5-3. That's not great. Its fine, not great and not a good sign.
Keep wagging your tail in the car.
History will be kind to me on this.
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Keep wagging your tails in the car.
This is not a playoff team, Browns are wasting their time.
Hoyer struggles with a TB secondary that gave up what 5 TDs to Flacco in the first half? Atlanta dropped 59 on them? Browns need missed FG, Blocked FG, Blocked Punt, INT in the endzone to hold on to beat TB.
The fact you see today as a positive only shows how small you think.
Miller Light in a Champaign League.Miller Light in a Champagne League.
Is that like a Johnny Football Knob Muncher on a Browns forum? (You should know)
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Keep rooting against the Browns so your boyfriend can start playing. And fine...7-3 as a starter dickhead... 5-3 this year. True Browns fans are enjoying the fact that the team is in the hunt at the half way point in the season. The only ones not happy about the team having a winning record are you Johnny Manziel fags.
Then True Browns fan are too dumb to realize that 2007 set the Browns back 5 years. This year is going to do the same damage. We're not contenders, we're builders and we're delaying the process and wasting time. Now everyone we just bought on defense is going to be a year older when we have to restart.
This team doesn't make the playoffs. Not a contender. Just played the 3 worst teams in the NFL and struggled against all 3. Easiest schedule in the NFL and with 5 home games we're 5-3. That's not great. Its fine, not great and not a good sign.
Keep wagging your tail in the car.
History will be kind to me on this.
Then True Browns fan are too dumb to realize that 2007 set the Browns back 5 years. This year is going to do the same damage. We're not contenders, we're builders and we're delaying the process and wasting time. Now everyone we just bought on defense is going to be a year older when we have to restart.
This team doesn't make the playoffs. Not a contender. Just played the 3 worst teams in the NFL and struggled against all 3. Easiest schedule in the NFL and with 5 home games we're 5-3. That's not great. Its fine, not great and not a good sign.
Keep wagging your tail in the car.
History will be kind to me on this.
So, the only winning season we had in 11 years set us back 5 years?
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