Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I'd say most of us hate the Cowboys. In order of hatred:
Steelers Ravens Bengals and Cowboys.
Others I generally root against but don't hate too badly Miami Dolphins Denver Broncos, Atlanta Falcons, Philadelphia Eagles, Oakland Raiders, New Orleans Saints. Some I just kind of don't like Seattle Seahawks, Jacksonville Jaguars, Washington Redskins, Carolina Panthers, Houston dumbass Texans, Arizona Cardinals,......
The rest I either don't mind and root for if it doesn't affect the Browns or just don't care.
WSS
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I drove to Chicago a couple weeks ago. It was the same day OSU played Michigan and I just planned to listen to the game as I drove across Indiana....
You'd think it would be on, right?.....not!
All I got was Indiana- Purdue(understandable....I guess)....or the Illinois game....channel after channel....no osu - mich.....wtf????
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I drove to Chicago a couple weeks ago. It was the same day OSU played Michigan and I just planned to listen to the game as I drove across Indiana....
You'd think it would be on, right?.....not!
All I got was Indiana- Purdue(understandable....I guess)....or the Illinois game....channel after channel....no osu - mich.....wtf????
I drove to Chicago a couple weeks ago. It was the same day OSU played Michigan and I just planned to listen to the game as I drove across Indiana....
You'd think it would be on, right?.....not!
All I got was Indiana- Purdue(understandable....I guess)....or the Illinois game....channel after channel....no osu - mich.....wtf????
Exactly !
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Great qb post zombo. Jeez what a clusterfuck
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I drove to Chicago a couple weeks ago. It was the same day OSU played Michigan and I just planned to listen to the game as I drove across Indiana....
You'd think it would be on, right?.....not!
All I got was Indiana- Purdue(understandable....I guess)....or the Illinois game....channel after channel....no osu - mich.....wtf????
Exactly !
Exactly !
Bad enough I couldnt watch...but not even on the radio?
Yep....you bet I was pissed off and cussing Indiana that day....
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@everlastingxxx said:
As a Cowboys fan, i always root against the Patriots. They havent won a Super Bowl since they were caught cheating. Their punishment was a hand slap because Goodell is a known Patriot fan. The lame tuck rule that screwed the Raiders. Getting embarrassed by Eli Manning twice in Super Bowls, lol. Who was a Patriots fan before Brady came along? Seriously? I do like Bill Belichick, he is a great coach.
Here is a link for the Pats fan that needs an education in Texas history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_San_Jacinto
It's a shame Bill had to learn how to coach in Cleveland before he moved on to NE.
To Art Modell's credit- he will go down in history of having the acumen to fire TWO HOF coaches. Paul Brown, and I consider Bill B to be a lock to get in eventually.
Regarding the Cowboys- us guys up North despise the "America's Team" moniker. I had the pleasure of flipping Jerry Jones the bird- along with a few hundred other Browns fans- the last time the Cowboys played in Cleveland. Old Jerry was sitting in the owners box right behind us.
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I don't think its Tom Brady that gives New England fans this arrogance- even for all the years the Red Sox and Patriots weren't great, New England fans are typically arrogant jackasses who can only respond to disagreement by insisting that they are right.
Nothing new to me, I am a lawyer after all.
Also I don't think the Pats will necessarily be a bad team again just because Brady retires. If they let Jimmy G. learn behind Brady for a few years I could see him being a decent franchise quarterback. He is a FAR better backup skill-set wise than Mallet and Hoyer ever were (though you guys know all too well about the latter)
Oh, now you really sound like a freeking Steeler fan: "We are great because we are great and nothing will ever turn us from the path of greatness."
FYI, I think only twice in the history of the NFL did a team lose a HOF caliber QB and follow it up with another HOF caliber QB.
Joe Montana followed by Steve Young
Brett Favre followed by Aaron Rodgers.
and maybe include Bob Waterfield followed by Norm Van Brocklin.
(and in the near future probably Peyton followed by Luck)
Jimmy Garropolo might be your Mark Malone (who had to follow up both Terry Bradshaw and Dan Fouts) or your Brian (not Bob) Griese or your Jay Fiedler or your Quincy Carter...or your Tommy O'Connell
I never said Jimmy G. would be a HoF QB, nor did I say that we would be a championship team. I said I think he has the talent to be a "decent franchise quarterback". Also do I think we will still be contenders? As long as we have Bill Belichick, yes we will be. We may not win the AFC east every year after Brady leaves but yes we will still be in the running because Belichick knows how to assemble a good squad of guys year after year.
I never said Jimmy G. would be a HoF QB, nor did I say that we would be a championship team. I said I think he has the talent to be a "decent franchise quarterback". Also do I think we will still be contenders? As long as we have Bill Belichick, yes we will be. We may not win the AFC east every year after Brady leaves but yes we will still be in the running because Belichick knows how to assemble a good squad of guys year after year.
Well, BB had 5 seasons here and he had a losing record in 4 out of 5. In his first year in NE without Brady starting he went 5-11.
So, the only evidence we have is that without Tom Brady at QB.... he has been a loser in 5 out of 6 years.
But my suspicion is that BB will retire as the HC of the NEP when Brady calls it quits.....and then you will have a guy born in the same hospital as me for your HC.
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Texas is a cute place with a fascinating lack of self-awareness.
They fetishize their military history ["Don't Mess With Texas"] yet the actual historical record shows that Texas conclusively lost every engagement they were in.
The "free" state of Texas was bailed out by the US Federal Government - each and every time.
Texas is a cute place with a fascinating lack of self-awareness.
They fetishize their military history ["Don't Mess With Texas"] yet the actual historical record shows that Texas conclusively lost every engagement they were in.
The "free" state of Texas was bailed out by the US Federal Government - each and every time.
No, the Battle of San Jacinto was all Texas (with the help, sure, of voluteers from various states).....they won that battle and their independence on their own.
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I never said Jimmy G. would be a HoF QB, nor did I say that we would be a championship team. I said I think he has the talent to be a "decent franchise quarterback". Also do I think we will still be contenders? As long as we have Bill Belichick, yes we will be. We may not win the AFC east every year after Brady leaves but yes we will still be in the running because Belichick knows how to assemble a good squad of guys year after year.
Well, BB had 5 seasons here and he had a losing record in 4 out of 5. In his first year in NE without Brady starting he went 5-11.
So, the only evidence we have is that without Tom Brady at QB.... he has been a loser in 5 out of 6 years.
But my suspicion is that BB will retire as the HC of the NEP when Brady calls it quits.....and then you will have a guy born in the same hospital as me for your HC.
Well, BB had 5 seasons here and he had a losing record in 4 out of 5. In his first year in NE without Brady starting he went 5-11.
So, the only evidence we have is that without Tom Brady at QB.... he has been a loser in 5 out of 6 years.
But my suspicion is that BB will retire as the HC of the NEP when Brady calls it quits.....and then you will have a guy born in the same hospital as me for your HC.
Agreed. However you have to take into account that he didn't quite run the Browns like he runs the Patriots. The Pats are the BB show. He is GM and HC and he gets the players HE wants, and does what HE wants with them. His first year here, he didn't have as much of a chance to craft the team and he pretty much got what was handed to him, and look at the pick that he DID make in the draft. He picked arguably one of the All-Time greatest QB's in the game of football when no other team even gave him a look. But there are many other things that make him a great coach, I think too many people emphasize the Brady thing. It will be very interesting indeed to see what happens when the Brady days are over.
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Haha....I always laugh when folks act like hot, dusty, sweaty, nasty places are better because there isnt snow or cold.....
I'll take my winter....to be rewarded with glorious springs....perfectly tolerable(and GREEN) summers......beautiful, cool falls......all topped by a blanket of white for christmas.....
My bro lives in Tucson, the ugliest and most hostile environment Ive ever been in.....I wouldn't last a week there.....
And I visit Texas & Oklahoma about 5-6 times a year and wouldn't trade for a day.....or an hour....
Well, to be honest, that has been my attitude too......but now that I am the age I am dealing with ice where you have to walk...and snow is becoming a problem. Plus I am starting to get some of those little tweeking pains from the cold...so I could see leaving the cold weather. But where would be the best place to go? I hate humid sweltering heat.....like Fla/Louisiana/ parts of Texas. San Diego and other parts of California might be great weather wise....but the traffic/cost of living etc. seem intolerable. Arizona is a possibility....but not Tuscon or Phoenix.....north toward Prescott or Sedona might be good. Flagstaff is too far north as they get a ton of snow there.
Well, to be honest, that has been my attitude too......but now that I am the age I am dealing with ice where you have to walk...and snow is becoming a problem. Plus I am starting to get some of those little tweeking pains from the cold...so I could see leaving the cold weather. But where would be the best place to go? I hate humid sweltering heat.....like Fla/Louisiana/ parts of Texas. San Diego and other parts of California might be great weather wise....but the traffic/cost of living etc. seem intolerable. Arizona is a possibility....but not Tuscon or Phoenix.....north toward Prescott or Sedona might be good. Flagstaff is too far north as they get a ton of snow there.
My vote is for Sedona/Prescott. I visited there five years back and loved it. Plan to return and seriously considering retiring there someyear.
Browns Board HOF worthy summary there Z...
Maybe we need a "history" section?
Indeed. I'm copying and saving that summary for my own use when someone asks me about Browns woes and the QB carousel! (credit to Z)
One big difference is the sports media and portions of the country outside of Ohio are tuning in to see what Johnny does. The previous QB no one cared except Browns fans and a few college fanboy followers. Nothing to this degree though.
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Anybody notice who the analyst is for Derek Anderson's start in Carolina this week? That's right ... Brady Quinn
AWKWARD
Zombo
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Bullshit. We kicked the Mexicans ass or we would still be part of Mexico. Kicked the Comanches ass too. AND kicked a bunch of outlaws ass to boot. Commit a capital crime in Texas and you get the death penalty.
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We may have a chihuahua leading the Dawg Pound but not a midget. Marvin Lewis,Jeremy Hill and Greg Little are mental midgets.
GO JOHNNY "CHIHUAHUA" MANZIEL AND GO BROWNS !
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I'd say most of us hate the Cowboys. In order of hatred:
Steelers Ravens Bengals and Cowboys.
Others I generally root against but don't hate too badly Miami Dolphins Denver Broncos, Atlanta Falcons, Philadelphia Eagles, Oakland Raiders, New Orleans Saints. Some I just kind of don't like Seattle Seahawks, Jacksonville Jaguars, Washington Redskins, Carolina Panthers, Houston dumbass Texans, Arizona Cardinals,......
The rest I either don't mind and root for if it doesn't affect the Browns or just don't care.
WSS
I'd say most of us hate the Cowboys. In order of hatred:
Steelers Ravens Bengals and Cowboys.
Others I generally root against but don't hate too badly Miami Dolphins Denver Broncos, Atlanta Falcons, Philadelphia Eagles, Oakland Raiders, New Orleans Saints. Some I just kind of don't like Seattle Seahawks, Jacksonville Jaguars, Washington Redskins, Carolina Panthers, Houston dumbass Texans, Arizona Cardinals,......
The rest I either don't mind and root for if it doesn't affect the Browns or just don't care.
WSS
Oh, OK, I guess we can all give our list of ranking how we feel about each team. From worst to best here we go
Steelers
Ravens
Bengals
Broncos
Cowboys
Patriots
Raiders
49ers
Giants
Redskins
Lions
Colts
Titans
Jaguars
Seahawks
Rams
Buccaneers
Falcons
Texans
Dolphins
Chiefs
Eagles
Vikings
Jets
Panthers
Bears
Cardinals
Bills
Chargers
Packers
Yanks (Boston or NY)
Dodger/Tigers (Brooklyn)
Dallas Texans
Maroons
Jeffersons
Steam Roller
Yellow Jackets
Kelleys
Panhandles
Celts
Triangles
Indians
Bulldogs
Pros
Browns
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Bullshit. We kicked the Mexicans ass or we would still be part of Mexico. Kicked the Comanches ass too. AND kicked a bunch of outlaws ass to boot. Commit a capital crime in Texas and you get the death penalty.
Bullshit. We kicked the Mexicans ass or we would still be part of Mexico. Kicked the Comanches ass too. AND kicked a bunch of outlaws ass to boot. Commit a capital crime in Texas and you get the death penalty.
And save your Confederate money boys the south shall rise again.
(I have to admit I framed a set for my wall of 11 Confederate bills $1 thru $100-but I'm an amateur Civil War historian) . -
Well, BB had 5 seasons here and he had a losing record in 4 out of 5. In his first year in NE without Brady starting he went 5-11.
So, the only evidence we have is that without Tom Brady at QB.... he has been a loser in 5 out of 6 years.
But my suspicion is that BB will retire as the HC of the NEP when Brady calls it quits.....and then you will have a guy born in the same hospital as me for your HC.
Agreed. However you have to take into account that he didn't quite run the Browns like he runs the Patriots. The Pats are the BB show. He is GM and HC and he gets the players HE wants, and does what HE wants with them. His first year here, he didn't have as much of a chance to craft the team and he pretty much got what was handed to him, and look at the pick that he DID make in the draft. He picked arguably one of the All-Time greatest QB's in the game of football when no other team even gave him a look. But there are many other things that make him a great coach, I think too many people emphasize the Brady thing. It will be very interesting indeed to see what happens when the Brady days are over.
Agreed. However you have to take into account that he didn't quite run the Browns like he runs the Patriots. The Pats are the BB show. He is GM and HC and he gets the players HE wants, and does what HE wants with them. His first year here, he didn't have as much of a chance to craft the team and he pretty much got what was handed to him, and look at the pick that he DID make in the draft. He picked arguably one of the All-Time greatest QB's in the game of football when no other team even gave him a look. But there are many other things that make him a great coach, I think too many people emphasize the Brady thing. It will be very interesting indeed to see what happens when the Brady days are over.
Seriously? Why don't you just release him right now and rely on your backup QB....and then let's see how good BB would come out.
One of the greatest coaches in history...Paul Brown had his troubles after Otto Graham retired. Almost all dynasties are great coach/QB combinations.
The only guy to really win big with multiple QBs was Joe Gibbs.
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Anybody notice who the analyst is for Derek Anderson's start in Carolina this week? That's right ... Brady Quinn
AWKWARD
Zombo
Zombo said:
Anybody notice who the analyst is for Derek Anderson's start in Carolina this week? That's right ... Brady Quinn
AWKWARD
Zombo
Wow! I didn't even know he had gotten a gig with Fox. That is fairly hilarious, ironic, pathetic.....and a lot of other adjectives.
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Zombo said:
Anybody notice who the analyst is for Derek Anderson's start in Carolina this week? That's right ... Brady Quinn
AWKWARD
Zombo
Wow! I didn't even know he had gotten a gig with Fox. That is fairly hilarious, ironic, pathetic.....and a lot of other adjectives.
Wow! I didn't even know he had gotten a gig with Fox. That is fairly hilarious, ironic, pathetic.....and a lot of other adjectives.
I wonder if Horseballs ever said to him "Oh yeah, I'll still be starting in this league, and you'll be up in the booth calling my games!"
Zombo
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Wow! I didn't even know he had gotten a gig with Fox. That is fairly hilarious, ironic, pathetic.....and a lot of other adjectives.
I wonder if Horseballs ever said to him "Oh yeah, I'll still be starting in this league, and you'll be up in the booth calling my games!"
Zombo
Zombo said:
I wonder if Horseballs ever said to him "Oh yeah, I'll still be starting in this league, and you'll be up in the booth calling my games!"
Zombo
Barfing Hard will need psychiatric counseling.
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ooOOhhh.....a hate list!!!.....I LOVE hate lists.....here's my top 10
- I hate our whole division......... They all suck rocks and are equally hateable.
- Dallas Cowboys.......... They simply make me sick. Always have. Always will. HATE them.
- Denver Broncos..........no explanation necessary
- New England Patriots..........just a fucking bunch of Red Sox fans in disguise
- Seattle Seahawks.........because I've always hated their uniforms. They dont look like ballers. The new neon shit is gay.
- Carolina Panther....i hate new teams. They never feel like they belong. Tampa & Seattle still feel new to me.
- Jacksonville Jaguars....See above. PLUS, I used to confuse them with the Panthers. 2 new teams, both cats, both suck.
And my 10 favorites:
- DA BROWNS......of course
- Minn. Vikings.....my favorite as a front running 8 year old...foreman, tarkenton, marshall, rashad...still love that team!
- DA Bears!.........always seemed like a gritty team and just my flavor
- Green Bay Packers.......see above..Plus, I love cheese!
- Detroit Lions.....that fucking barge is everything....we own you detroit!(well, not really....)
- LA Raiders....always liked the team and image. Not so much now. They'll be back.
- Houston Oilers.....maybe because I miss them? If they were still here, Id put em on the hate list
- ........................hmmm, it appears I only like 7 teams
The rest are ....eh
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