time to start the draft talk you Blunts.
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Zombo said:
Wilson is just damn smart and poised. One is suited to be a college QB and one is suited to be an NFL stud. We got the college guy. Manziel plays small. Yesterday he played tiny. I thought a lineman was going to hold him up by his little pants with his arms and legs flailing. Like the cartoons. Except it is our personal hell.
On one sack the lineman just grabbed the midget with one paw and then Johnny's little tiny shoes tripped over the guys other hand.
Zombo
Unfortunately Z this is the NFL. and a DL would get flagged for unnecessary roughness if they did a repeat to JF what Suh did when he ragdoll tossed Colt McCoy for around 5 yards when he was at Texas. For the record- Colt 6'2" 215, Johnny Football 6'0", 215. Unfortunately Z this is the NFL. and a DL would get flagged for unnecessary roughness if they did a repeat to JF what Suh did when he ragdoll tossed Colt McCoy for around 5 yards when he was at Texas. For the record- Colt 6'2" 215, Johnny Football 6'0", 215.
Here he is getting sacked by one hand.
Meanwhile, we hit Ben or Flacco with three guys and they escape and throw a dart.
Zombo
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Yes the QBs don't seem that appealing to me this year.
Beef up the lines, add a receiver, grab some front 7 depth in general on defense.
I'm cool with Hoyer starting behind our line with 3 probable pro bowlers on it (Thomas, Mack, Bitonio) next year.
I'd really like to see a premium nose tackle.
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the losing culture will return right quick if we change regimes again.
and no, no fucking qb in next years draft. Get Hoyer signed, he needs to be our qb for the next two years at least. Johnny just has to sit on the bench and learn...but Hoyer needs to understand that it's an open comp. None of this johnnny has to leave BS.
the losing culture will return right quick if we change regimes again.
and no, no fucking qb in next years draft. Get Hoyer signed, he needs to be our qb for the next two years at least. Johnny just has to sit on the bench and learn...but Hoyer needs to understand that it's an open comp. None of this johnnny has to leave BS.
I agree, but I don't think Hoyer will be here next year, and they are not going into the season with Manziel and Shaw. They will have to get a veteran from free agency not another rookie unless they decide to part ways with Manziel, and I doubt that.
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the losing culture will return right quick if we change regimes again.
and no, no fucking qb in next years draft. Get Hoyer signed, he needs to be our qb for the next two years at least. Johnny just has to sit on the bench and learn...but Hoyer needs to understand that it's an open comp. None of this johnnny has to leave BS.
I agree, but I don't think Hoyer will be here next year, and they are not going into the season with Manziel and Shaw. They will have to get a veteran from free agency not another rookie unless they decide to part ways with Manziel, and I doubt that.
I agree, but I don't think Hoyer will be here next year, and they are not going into the season with Manziel and Shaw. They will have to get a veteran from free agency not another rookie unless they decide to part ways with Manziel, and I doubt that.
Not many good ones, I'd rather keep Brian than take Sanchez, Ponder, Locker, etc, etc.
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Yep....There is definitely no magic pill out there in the NFL.....a bunch of retreads.....bad QB's....back ups......or old men....
And college wise, it's a weak class. No great prospects. So, unless Farmer finds that magic Genie, we gotta work with what we got and fish for a lucky draw later in the draft.....
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if manziel looks as bad as he did against the bengals last week in the last 2 remaining games i wouldn't be so sure about next year's roster.
hoyer blew his chance for a big contract with the browns, or so it looked until manziel took the field.
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Agreed. Coaching. Take the same players and place them on a well coached team and you'd see results. Coaching.
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I agree, but I don't think Hoyer will be here next year, and they are not going into the season with Manziel and Shaw. They will have to get a veteran from free agency not another rookie unless they decide to part ways with Manziel, and I doubt that.
Not many good ones, I'd rather keep Brian than take Sanchez, Ponder, Locker, etc, etc.
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Agreed. Coaching. Take the same players and place them on a well coached team and you'd see results. Coaching.
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Agreed. Coaching. Take the same players and place them on a well coached team and you'd see results. Coaching.
Agreed. Coaching. Take the same players and place them on a well coached team and you'd see results. Coaching.
you can't make that call after 1 year. Vince Lombardi could rise up out of the grave and still need a few years to gel with guys. Like Pettine or not, we don't have a choice but to stick with him for years to come. Blame past FO's but it is what it is now....another coaching change means we'll NEVER get anyone here worth a damn. You want the Browns to become a yearly procession of CFL and D3 cast outs? You think we'll get a Cowher type here if we demonstrably prove that any coach that comes here has to "at least" make the playoffs year 1? No chance.
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This should Chuds 2nd year and more importantly Hortons 2nd year with this defense. I think our offense production would be fairly similar to what it was but I think our defense would have been much improved over last year given the same scheme. I def think the scheme change had at least a good part to do with the onset of the complete inability to track down runners.
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If what we saw on the field Sunday is the other option, blech.
If we beef up the line, I think the good Brian (the one who doesn't throw picks) is a fine option for awhile.
Unless he wants the same contract that he did earlier this year. If he's a complete dick and says well you have to give me what I want otherwise you're stuck with Johnny...than I'd rather see JM out there or even Grossman. Hoyer should take the deal he was offered, if the Browns or so inclined anymore (I hope they are), and thank the lord above he'll be starting on an NFL team next year.
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also...change the thread title back to cunts, thanks.
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some people just don't get it.
everyone called our defense 'championship caliber' after the Indy game. now they think they're bums. do you know who didn't play?
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some people just don't get it.
everyone called our defense 'championship caliber' after the Indy game. now they think they're bums. do you know who didn't play?
some people just don't get it.
everyone called our defense 'championship caliber' after the Indy game. now they think they're bums. do you know who didn't play?
I think everybody understood it was just one game. I don't think anybody was actually thinking one game proved our D turned any corners. Especially against a team that started Trich in the backfield.
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so i guess they were bums in the 7 games we won? take away our biggest run stopper our top corner our top safety and some other key components............oh you're a waste of time.
you are the new flip flopper only behind walter.
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So you start 11 men on Defense from our initial 11 starters, we were missing or lost early
Armonty Bryant
Phil Taylor
Carlos Dansby
Joe Haden
Buster Skrine
Tashaun Gipson
add the players nursing injuries....
Sheard
Winn
Mingo
Leaves you with basically 2-3 "healthy" starters...out of 11....from day 1....
But maybe the defense collapsed because of Haslam or bad coaching or they hated Johnny or something(sarcasm)...please
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This should Chuds 2nd year and more importantly Hortons 2nd year with this defense. I think our offense production would be fairly similar to what it was but I think our defense would have been much improved over last year given the same scheme. I def think the scheme change had at least a good part to do with the onset of the complete inability to track down runners.
This should Chuds 2nd year and more importantly Hortons 2nd year with this defense. I think our offense production would be fairly similar to what it was but I think our defense would have been much improved over last year given the same scheme. I def think the scheme change had at least a good part to do with the onset of the complete inability to track down runners.
Only the browns fans would call for a coaching change.
4-12 to 7-7,8-8, or 9-7 is a fine improvement. Splitting everybody in the division would be an improvement too, if we beat Baltimore.
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Zombo said:
Let's get him an All Pro WR, a Pro Bowl TE and a HOF Left tackle.
Oh wait ... already got those. Let's get him a little periscope so he can see what is going on above the linemen's heads.
Zombo
Wonder of there is submarine play book?
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