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  • Tell ya what.....Ill smile today if I see the money sign from a Browns player.....not so much if it's the opposition.....😉

  • "These guys" are quoting Bengal players...

    Youse guy is saying what he thinks is right... waste of Sainthood.

    And the Terrible Towels are just piss-stained, Dolphin hankies... the original, waveable fan-cloths.

    @tour2ma said:

    "These guys" are quoting Bengal players...

    Youse guy is saying what he thinks is right... waste of Sainthood.

    And the Terrible Towels are just piss-stained, Dolphin hankies... the original, waveable fan-cloths.

    Ok have it your way. The beating in Cincinnati meant nothing to the Bengals and they probably would have laid down had it not been for the money sign. You win.

    😁

    WSS

  • c'mon steve's right.

    bengals didn't kick our ass because of the money sign.

    but if not for the JF money sign there would be no money sign. get it?

  • But Mud one of the things these guys are bitching about it is that it pisses off the opposition. Do you think the Steelers love the sound of the dog pound? Browns fans cheer at the sight of those fucking yellow rags?

    And the dog thing is a tradition started by Hanford and Minny and continues today. I wouldn't mind seeing the money sign stay in Cleveland after johnny has won a couple Super Bowls and retired.

    😉

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    But Mud one of the things these guys are bitching about it is that it pisses off the opposition. Do you think the Steelers love the sound of the dog pound? Browns fans cheer at the sight of those fucking yellow rags?

    And the dog thing is a tradition started by Hanford and Minny and continues today. I wouldn't mind seeing the money sign stay in Cleveland after johnny has won a couple Super Bowls and retired.

    😉

    WSS

    I get it and think celebration and team things are fine...barking, toweling, leaping and getting excited is all great stuff. I think the only place we differ is the individual vs team thing....me vs we....etc....

    Like you said about the money sign "staying" in Cleveland....I would ask why it didnt stay in Texas?...or if his teammates here will adopt it as a Browns thing...because if they dont, it pretty much squares up what Ive been saying....

    BUT, I will give in and say that... if Johnny starts scoring and his teammates start doing it....Im all in!

    @tour2ma said:

    And the Terrible Towels are just piss-stained, Dolphin hankies... the original, waveable fan-cloths.

    They're the dumbest thing ever.....never got it myself

    @hounddawg said:

    Aaron has EARNED that right on the pro level

    Coming from an accomplished player makes it at least a little tolerable....

  • so i just saw the A promo loop of the qbs when their game is mentioned. we all know it's done in front of a blue screen. and of course they put the subjects in the best light both literally and subjectively.

    the forever move is to have the subject go from looking down to looking up into the camera lens. then it became a whole scene.

    anyways, cam's was him doing a running/heisman trophy stance type thing and manziel's was just him doing the money sign.

    weep wop.

  • @dwplayer said:

    Flashing money signs before ever taking a snap in the NFL never worked out for anyone.

    The money sign is absolutely meaningless.

    Get over it.

    WSS

    Let's revisit the start of the discussion shall we? In response to another member Saint Steve posted:

    @westside-steve said:

    The money sign is absolutely meaningless. Get over it. WSS


    To which I replied:

    @tour2ma said:

    Disagree... I think it's symptomatic of a lot of things, but can set that aside.

    What cannot be set aside is the its impact on opponents. Bengals D talked about how the spector of that "meaningless" gesture pumped them up. That they did not want to see it and their play was driven by their desire to not see it.

    It's permanent bulletin board material... even if there's nothing new to fuel the fire, there's "the money sign" to fall back upon.


    And then...

    @westside-steve said:

    Oh horse shit. You take it seriously because you don't like the kid. What pumped the Bengals up is the fact that we fuck them in the ass in their own house.

    It also cost the Cincinnati morons at least one penalty. WSS


    So the only absolute position in the "discussion" belonged to The Saint.
    The only attempt to label motivation for a position was by The Saint.

    Steve, it was two divergent opinions.

    All I ever said was that I disagree with yours.

    There is no winning such a discussion, but, as you showed, you can lose it.

    Go Browns...

  • Quote from CBS sports: The biggest surprise of all, though? The Browns are the THIRD best-selling team. In the NFL. Out of all the teams!

    Yesterday, while Christmas shopping here in Houston, I saw Browns Throw blankets, Tervis mugs, jerseys, coffee cups and an assortment of other shit in stores like Bed Bath and Beyond, Academy, Sports Authority, places where I had never seen items before.

    South Texas thinks the Browns are a bunch of losers, but who could blame them. The Texans are 5 and 3 against the Browns with their last loss in 2007. The Texans have been to the playoffs twice since then beating Cincy both times in the first round. To have all that gear in the stores is only due to Johnny. Texas folks love their football and are very knowledgeable and they know Johnny can play. Too bad we have a screw up at OC who rode along on his dad's and Kubiac's coattails.

    We will see in a few minutes if he can play - Oh wait, the wife pulled the Sunday ticket so I guess I won't see and the Texans are at home.

  • Quote from CBS sports: The biggest surprise of all, though? The Browns are the THIRD best-selling team. In the NFL. Out of all the teams!

    Yesterday, while Christmas shopping here in Houston, I saw Browns Throw blankets, Tervis mugs, jerseys, coffee cups and an assortment of other shit in stores like Bed Bath and Beyond, Academy, Sports Authority, places where I had never seen items before.

    South Texas thinks the Browns are a bunch of losers, but who could blame them. The Texans are 5 and 3 against the Browns with their last loss in 2007. The Texans have been to the playoffs twice since then beating Cincy both times in the first round. To have all that gear in the stores is only due to Johnny. Texas folks love their football and are very knowledgeable and they know Johnny can play. Too bad we have a screw up at OC who rode along on his dad's and Kubiac's coattails.

    We will see in a few minutes if he can play - Oh wait, the wife pulled the Sunday ticket so I guess I won't see and the Texans are at home.

    @edwardejw said:

    Quote from CBS sports: The biggest surprise of all, though? The Browns are the THIRD best-selling team. In the NFL. Out of all the teams!

    Yesterday, while Christmas shopping here in Houston, I saw Browns Throw blankets, Tervis mugs, jerseys, coffee cups and an assortment of other shit in stores like Bed Bath and Beyond, Academy, Sports Authority, places where I had never seen items before.

    South Texas thinks the Browns are a bunch of losers, but who could blame them. The Texans are 5 and 3 against the Browns with their last loss in 2007. The Texans have been to the playoffs twice since then beating Cincy both times in the first round. To have all that gear in the stores is only due to Johnny. Texas folks love their football and are very knowledgeable and they know Johnny can play. Too bad we have a screw up at OC who rode along on his dad's and Kubiac's coattails.

    We will see in a few minutes if he can play - Oh wait, the wife pulled the Sunday ticket so I guess I won't see and the Texans are at home.

    The browns have a big traveling fan base. Not all that surprising.

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    This might be good for Manziel. Imagine if he came in and lit it up right away? Look at RG3. He came in, was great and was given the key to the city. Look at him now, complete mess. Look at Kap, he looks horrible after looking so great last season. Might be good for Manziel to shit down his leg these final games. Realize that he has to stop the parting, mature and work his ass off in the off season.

    You are Retarded...

    This is the NFL. He is who we think he is.

  • And now the Diva got injured... Welcome to the NFL Johnny Failure.

  • And now the Diva got injured... Welcome to the NFL Johnny Failure.

    @itoldyou said:

    And now the Diva got injured... Welcome to the NFL Johnny Failure.

    SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!

    Next

  • Teddy is looking pretty damn good...

  • Done with johnny. We knew what he was coming out. We know what he could be.

    Turns out he is what he was

  • Teddy is looking pretty damn good...

    @vikesguy05 said:

    Teddy is looking pretty damn good...

    Please, don't rub it in...

    Some real idiots fell for that combine BS.

    Teddy is for realz.

  • This kid texted me "Hurry up and draft me, let's wreck this league" he must be drafted in the first round. Yep stupid FO keeps it consistent.

  • Johnny will be the presumed starter next year. He's had five and a half quarters as a starter so far. That's not even enough time to start the beginnings of an evaluation yet. Maybe Johnny will eventually bust out, but we are a long way from finding out

  • Another 76% complete took rate with 2 TD on the road for Teddy.

    Oh how we could had Teddy,

    Teddy franchiszheous..

    But we are left with wreck'em Manziel.

  • Johnny will be the presumed starter next year. He's had five and a half quarters as a starter so far. That's not even enough time to start the beginnings of an evaluation yet. Maybe Johnny will eventually bust out, but we are a long way from finding out

    @tacosman said:

    Johnny will be the presumed starter next year. He's had five and a half quarters as a starter so far. That's not even enough time to start the beginnings of an evaluation yet. Maybe Johnny will eventually bust out, but we are a long way from finding out

    Lol

  • They've had him in practice for 20 weeks now....they know if he looks like a pro or not already.....their off season moves will tell us all we need to (or already) know

  • Yeah we will see....that much is true. Just would be extremely unusual to give up on a first round qb after 26 throws as a starter and 5 and a half qtrs.