Haslam/Farmer Post Season Presser
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@everlastingxxx said:
You can't dump first round picks after one season unless you want to tank your franchise for the next 10 years. You have to hit on them. They have to be given every chance to be successful.
No. Dumping a shitty first round pick after one year sets you back a year. Forcing them into the lineup because you want to pretend the pick wasn't horrible can cost several more years. You can polish a turd - but it is still a turd. And Manziel stinks..
No. Dumping a shitty first round pick after one year sets you back a year. Forcing them into the lineup because you want to pretend the pick wasn't horrible can cost several more years.
Yup... kinda like Andy Dalton?
Not sure I'm comfortable with the responsibility of speaking for any of you. The difference between myself and a lot of you is that although I love the Browns and want them to win each and every week, its not something that pisses me off. The season was a fun one since we were actually relevant into December, only really played 1 truly stinker game and I think heading in the right direction. Whether we truly are heading in the right direction or not remains to be seen but I feel pretty good about the front office for the first time in a few years. Probably since Mangini...I thought he had us heading in the right direction as well.
LOL... be afraid, be very afraid...
We're pretty much in lockstep there, Mark. There is something to be said for impassionate analysis.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Getting draft picks in return is always a good thing. Browns hosed the Colts on the Richardson trade.
I don't think you would get much for Manziel. His off the field stuff is too much.
Not to mention his on the field stuff.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Getting draft picks in return is always a good thing. Browns hosed the Colts on the Richardson trade.
I don't think you would get much for Manziel. His off the field stuff is too much.
Not to mention his on the field stuff.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Getting draft picks in return is always a good thing. Browns hosed the Colts on the Richardson trade.
I don't think you would get much for Manziel. His off the field stuff is too much.
I agree...but if that's the case then the best thing would be to cut bait with him if the team/FO feels that he's not worth the distraction.
Given how young he is, I'd be shocked if we couldn't get even a 5th or 6th round pick for him. Maybe we could just trade him to the Rams for Bradford.
I agree...but if that's the case then the best thing would be to cut bait with him if the team/FO feels that he's not worth the distraction.
Given how young he is, I'd be shocked if we couldn't get even a 5th or 6th round pick for him. Maybe we could just trade him to the Rams for Bradford.
Sam's a pariah due to his contract, but I think Chip Kelly might be interested in a QB raised in an up tempo system.
In any case, if decisions been made to move on, delay if need be, but get what you can when you can and move on.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I agree...but if that's the case then the best thing would be to cut bait with him if the team/FO feels that he's not worth the distraction.
Given how young he is, I'd be shocked if we couldn't get even a 5th or 6th round pick for him. Maybe we could just trade him to the Rams for Bradford.
Sam's a pariah due to his contract, but I think Chip Kelly might be interested in a QB raised in an up tempo system.
In any case, if decisions been made to move on, delay if need be, but get what you can when you can and move on.
Sam's a pariah due to his contract, but I think Chip Kelly might be interested in a QB raised in an up tempo system.
In any case, if decisions been made to move on, delay if need be, but get what you can when you can and move on.
I'll take Nick Foles for Manziel and let him battle it out with Hoyer and Shaw.
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i get the size issue. problem is farmer didn't think it was necessary to draft a wr last draft. so until i get given the keys to the GM office i'll let the guy in there already do his job without wailing outside like a little girl every time something goes wrong.
i mean mcdonalds hasn't fired you for every fry you drop on the floor correct?
do they even make MD 20/20 anymore?
Putting faith in the guy who drafted Manziel/Gilbert, good call, put down the cleaning products
Putting faith in the guy who drafted Manziel/Gilbert, good call, put down the cleaning products
That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Putting faith in the guy who drafted Manziel/Gilbert, good call, put down the cleaning products
That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
Nope...no positives allowed. All we can do is bitch and whine and focus on the negatives.
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Sam's a pariah due to his contract, but I think Chip Kelly might be interested in a QB raised in an up tempo system.
In any case, if decisions been made to move on, delay if need be, but get what you can when you can and move on.
I'll take Nick Foles for Manziel and let him battle it out with Hoyer and Shaw.
I'll take Nick Foles for Manziel...
Possibly would require a sweetener, but something along those lines.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Putting faith in the guy who drafted Manziel/Gilbert, good call, put down the cleaning products
That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
And k'wuan Williams, possibly this Solomon fellow, Gabriel, etc.That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
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Sam's a pariah due to his contract, but I think Chip Kelly might be interested in a QB raised in an up tempo system.
In any case, if decisions been made to move on, delay if need be, but get what you can when you can and move on.
I'll take Nick Foles for Manziel and let him battle it out with Hoyer and Shaw.
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There will be some team that is willing to think they can change Puffy, and that he is the missing piece they need to make a run, so he does have trade value.
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Putting faith in the guy who drafted Manziel/Gilbert, good call, put down the cleaning products
That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
I said pretty much the same thing to Bacondufus. You have to look at the overall body of work. He is the prototypical glass half empty rain cloud. I agree the first rounders were dice rolls that came up snake eyes probably. Overall though it's the most talent we have gotten in a draft and UDFA's in a long time.That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
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I said pretty much the same thing to Bacondufus. You have to look at the overall body of work. He is the prototypical glass half empty rain cloud. I agree the first rounders were dice rolls that came up snake eyes probably. Overall though it's the most talent we have gotten in a draft and UDFA's in a long time.That same guy also drafted Bitonio, West, Kirksey, Desir and signed both Shaw and Crowell.
But that's none of my business...
I said pretty much the same thing to Bacondufus. You have to look at the overall body of work. He is the prototypical glass half empty rain cloud. I agree the first rounders were dice rolls that came up snake eyes probably. Overall though it's the most talent we have gotten in a draft and UDFA's in a long time.
Not to mention players like Austin and Leonhard.
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Pettine just said he wouldnt talk about the "3" today because it would be disrespectful to the guys wearing the uniform today...
tough words about those guys...sounds very pissed and indicated they wouldn't let them on the field today
The "3" sounds like a sci-fi movie about tiny aliens inhabiting the bodies of some of the Browns players.Pettine just said he wouldnt talk about the "3" today because it would be disrespectful to the guys wearing the uniform today...
tough words about those guys...sounds very pissed and indicated they wouldn't let them on the field today
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On tonight's episode of the "3", armed security guards combed the countryside in search of the lost "3". The leader Mo was found unconcience in his pajamas while Larry turned up wearing the wrong jersey. Curly was finally located passed out in a limo near the Bearea training facility.
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The only positive ( and I use that term very loosely) is that it was an extra first round pick that was wasted. We still have 2 this year.
Admitting a mistake and moving on would certainly earn Haslam and company a ton of respect from the fans.
what makes you so sure they won't mess up the next draft also?
what makes you so sure they won't mess up the next draft also?
Did they really fuck up the draft?
Manziel was a real head scratcher, but if Gilbert decides he wants to start taking things seriously, he could turn it around. They also got an extra first round pick and hit on all the other picks. Bitonio, kirksey, west, desir. When you look at the draft from top to bottom and add in the UDFA class, this has to be the best offseason for the Browns in a long time. I know focusing only on first round picks and bitching is a lot more fun than not being a Retard, but c'mon man.
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you weren't saying that shit when the browns were winning, real fan.
just pick moments in time when you think people don't remember what you say, come back rearrange your whole stance and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about now.
you're a joke. a bad one.
Dobbs Ferry must be out of MD 20/20.
Not saying that Benjamin, Hawkins and Gabriel deserve to be cut tomorrow but the NFL requires that you have bigger receivers and those three are tiny. They won't win 50/50 balls and they showed that today.
Dobbs Ferry must be out of MD 20/20.
LMAO sorry Mik that was fucking funny
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