Bryan Hoyer open to returning to Browns
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This makes me giddy, Die.
A backup QB - one who wants to stay in the league - is 'open' to returning. Usually, it is star quality players who say this. Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck.
He could start in very few - if any - NFL cities. Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
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This makes me giddy, Die.
A backup QB - one who wants to stay in the league - is 'open' to returning. Usually, it is star quality players who say this. Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck.
He could start in very few - if any - NFL cities. Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
You can call him a backup, but a Poor man's Matt Flynn?! You are insane..
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I have no problem at all with resigning Hoyer. The line is the basic foundation of the team. You build the foundation first. Draft O and D linemen. If they used every pick they have in this years draft on linemen, Hoyer will do fine. And Crow and West will have stellar seasons. Those 2 running behind a stud line and Hoyer running the show sits just fine with me.
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This makes me giddy, Die.
A backup QB - one who wants to stay in the league - is 'open' to returning. Usually, it is star quality players who say this. Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck.
He could start in very few - if any - NFL cities. Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
So what does that make JFF? A poor man's Eric Crouch?
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Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
So what does that make JFF? A poor man's Eric Crouch?
So what does that make JFF? A poor man's Eric Crouch?
A poor mans Ryan Leaf.
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JFF? spoiled rich kid
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This makes me giddy, Die.
A backup QB - one who wants to stay in the league - is 'open' to returning. Usually, it is star quality players who say this. Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck.
He could start in very few - if any - NFL cities. Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
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This makes me giddy, Die.
A backup QB - one who wants to stay in the league - is 'open' to returning. Usually, it is star quality players who say this. Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck.
He could start in very few - if any - NFL cities. Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
I'd be willing to bet Houston says different douche bag. Just another JF fanboy favor who hooked their wagon to an ass.
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This makes me giddy, Die.
A backup QB - one who wants to stay in the league - is 'open' to returning. Usually, it is star quality players who say this. Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck.
He could start in very few - if any - NFL cities. Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
”
This makes me giddy, Die.
A backup QB - one who wants to stay in the league - is 'open' to returning. Usually, it is star quality players who say this. Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck.
He could start in very few - if any - NFL cities. Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
Call him an excellent backup option John- I'm not suggesting offering him starter money and I thnk Brian is smart enough to realize that. However, if some GM is dumb enough to offer it, he'd be stupid not to take it.
So what does that make JFF? A poor man's Eric Crouch?
Well put. Or Gino Torretta.
I'd be willing to bet Houston says different douche bag. Just another JF fanboy favor who hooked their wagon to an ass.
FYI- Chicopee is NOT a JFF fanboy.
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Brother John I believe that's the first time I've heard you called douchebag....
WSS
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Here's the thing...
Since most of the shit that we hear and repeat is speculation on its best day let's just say we don't know how BHS ego plays into this.
Is he looking for a place that he will be a guaranteed starter?
Is he (or more likely his agent) looking to sign for starter money and let the chips fall where they may?
Would he be happier as a backup in another city?
Are the couple of teams with lesser rated quarterbacks better overall teams in the Browns? If not he quite possibly won't be successful there either.
If he is, in fact, better than the other free agent quarterbacks what are those statistics? It seems that others have spent more time starting in the NFL.
I fear that the bottom line is that the Browns need a better quarterback than anyone on the roster at this moment.
That means that if the Johnny haters are correct and he is an abject failure then we will need a starting quarterback and Brian Hoyer will be a decent back up here.
I would imagine there would be at least some level of humiliation in that position.
WSS
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Brother John I believe that's the first time I've heard you called douchebag....
WSS
Brother John I believe that's the first time I've heard you called douchebag....
WSS
He is neither a JFF fanboi or a douchebag.
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Resigning Hoyer is the most stable prospect we have at the position right now. Sad but true. And I think he could've brought more wins to us if our o-line didn't suffer.
Unless they have a solid plan for going in a different direction next year, resign him with a contract deal that is appropriate.
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Agree... Hoyer would be the best immediate option in Shanny's system, but will Shanny be here?
And then there's the whole:
Said Hoyer: “It’s a great scenario here, but you have to be wanted back.”
To say, "Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck," is douche-baggery... whatever the fuck "tag along with" means.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Agree... Hoyer would be the best immediate option in Shanny's system, but will Shanny be here?
And then there's the whole:
Said Hoyer: “It’s a great scenario here, but you have to be wanted back.”
To say, "Hoyer just wants to tag along with collecting an NFL paycheck," is douche-baggery... whatever the fuck "tag along with" means.
And then there's the whole:......: “It’s a great scenario here, but you have to be wanted back.”
Exactly.....I think thats what Ward said last year......
Hey, if the Browns "know" BH isn't the future, then I respect them for moving on. I get that he may be the best option right now, but if that option isn't good enough for the long term, then it's best to start working toward finding the right one.
Why waste time on players you dont think you can win it all with? Now is the time to get it sorted....
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And then there's the whole:......: “It’s a great scenario here, but you have to be wanted back.”
Exactly.....I think thats what Ward said last year......
Hey, if the Browns "know" BH isn't the future, then I respect them for moving on. I get that he may be the best option right now, but if that option isn't good enough for the long term, then it's best to start working toward finding the right one.
Why waste time on players you dont think you can win it all with? Now is the time to get it sorted....
Exactly.....I think thats what Ward said last year......
Hey, if the Browns "know" BH isn't the future, then I respect them for moving on. I get that he may be the best option right now, but if that option isn't good enough for the long term, then it's best to start working toward finding the right one.
Why waste time on players you dont think you can win it all with? Now is the time to get it sorted....
Good luck finding any QB available to the Browns in the next 6 months that you can "win it all with".
Sometimes you have to make due with what you've got.
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Exactly.....I think thats what Ward said last year......
Hey, if the Browns "know" BH isn't the future, then I respect them for moving on. I get that he may be the best option right now, but if that option isn't good enough for the long term, then it's best to start working toward finding the right one.
Why waste time on players you dont think you can win it all with? Now is the time to get it sorted....
Good luck finding any QB available to the Browns in the next 6 months that you can "win it all with".
Sometimes you have to make due with what you've got.
Actually no one is seriously disputing Johnny's talent, just his attitude. Attitudes can change.Good luck finding any QB available to the Browns in the next 6 months that you can "win it all with".
Sometimes you have to make due with what you've got.
(or not I know)
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This might will be the best place for BH.
A fan base who wants to give you the benefit of the doubt and a team that should be a little bit better next year. The downside would be the horrendous schedule we face. But unless I'm mistaken, & I might well be, he does not seem like a money grubber or an opportunist. If there's any money grubbing to be done its most likely his agent. That's what they get paid for.
WSS
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Exactly.....I think thats what Ward said last year......
Hey, if the Browns "know" BH isn't the future, then I respect them for moving on. I get that he may be the best option right now, but if that option isn't good enough for the long term, then it's best to start working toward finding the right one.
Why waste time on players you dont think you can win it all with? Now is the time to get it sorted....
Good luck finding any QB available to the Browns in the next 6 months that you can "win it all with".
Sometimes you have to make due with what you've got.
Good luck finding any QB available to the Browns in the next 6 months that you can "win it all with".
Sometimes you have to make due with what you've got.
Yeah, I get that....but the Browns may feel like they are spinning their wheels by playing players they KNOW aren't the guy...
Make do or try something new?...I think they want to keep moving forward and, to them, making do isn't moving forward....
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Hoyer is closer to "the guy" than Shaw or Manziel for 2015, at least so far.
That could change but I don't see Manziel or Shaw being there yet.
My question is who's the best guy for this football team in 2015, at this point I don't see one better than Hoyer available.
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Hoyer is closer to "the guy" than Shaw or Manziel for 2015, at least so far.
That could change but I don't see Manziel or Shaw being there yet.
My question is who's the best guy for this football team in 2015, at this point I don't see one better than Hoyer available.
My question is who's the best guy for this football team in 2015, at this point I don't see one better than Hoyer available.
Yeah..I dont know.
And, to be clear, Im not arguing that Hoyer "isnt" the best guy for 2015. Im hearing the Browns may not want him and am speculating on the "why" of that....
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Actually no one is seriously disputing Johnny's talent, just his attitude. Attitudes can change.Good luck finding any QB available to the Browns in the next 6 months that you can "win it all with".
Sometimes you have to make due with what you've got.
(or not I know)
also
This might will be the best place for BH.
A fan base who wants to give you the benefit of the doubt and a team that should be a little bit better next year. The downside would be the horrendous schedule we face. But unless I'm mistaken, & I might well be, he does not seem like a money grubber or an opportunist. If there's any money grubbing to be done its most likely his agent. That's what they get paid for.
WSS
Actually no one is seriously disputing Johnny's talent
WSS
I am. Always have. His game is not suited for the pro level and his improvement since his time in College Station has been minimal at best.
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Call him a poor man's Matt Flynn.
So what does that make JFF? A poor man's Eric Crouch?
So what does that make JFF? A poor man's Eric Crouch?
Imagine....................................................................he is an unproven commodity.
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