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  • gumby73 gumby73G Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    I believe I heard the NFL Cap is going up for all teams in 2015. This I think will help teams to keep players like Sheard and Cameron. We will take upgrades at any position at this point though..

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      L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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      D LINE

      D LINE

      D LINE

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        If we're losing Taylor and Rubin for sure than yeah the 1st pick has to be a DT/NT....unless Pettine and Oneil decide that maybe more 4-3 looks are the way to go than maybe a DE? We'll probably be losing Sheard and converting Kruger to DE is probably the best thing that could happen to him.

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        thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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        @clevfan4life said:

        If we're losing Taylor and Rubin for sure than yeah the 1st pick has to be a DT/NT....unless Pettine and Oneil decide that maybe more 4-3 looks are the way to go than maybe a DE? We'll probably be losing Sheard and converting Kruger to DE is probably the best thing that could happen to him.

        Why would we lose Taylor?

        Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending

        @bermeck08 said:

        Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say

        Best OL @ 12

        Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.

        Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??

        I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?

        #Justsayin'
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          @clevfan4life said:

          If we're losing Taylor and Rubin for sure than yeah the 1st pick has to be a DT/NT....unless Pettine and Oneil decide that maybe more 4-3 looks are the way to go than maybe a DE? We'll probably be losing Sheard and converting Kruger to DE is probably the best thing that could happen to him.

          Why would we lose Taylor?

          Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending

          @bermeck08 said:

          Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say

          Best OL @ 12

          Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.

          Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??

          I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?

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          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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          @thenew23 said:

          Why would we lose Taylor?

          Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending

          Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??

          I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?

          I agree, actually. I'd be going DL/OLB, as it stands, without FA being even thought about yet. Pick up an OT/OG like Bitonio who can play/cover both positions, dump McQuistan who was supposed to be that guy this year, and go from there.

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            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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            For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.

            http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000441570/article/tracking-underclassmen-intentions-for-2015-nfl-draft

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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              A ton of talent on the Dline coming out this year. A great fit to begin addressing the needs of this team.

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                @clevfan4life said:

                If we're losing Taylor and Rubin for sure than yeah the 1st pick has to be a DT/NT....unless Pettine and Oneil decide that maybe more 4-3 looks are the way to go than maybe a DE? We'll probably be losing Sheard and converting Kruger to DE is probably the best thing that could happen to him.

                Why would we lose Taylor?

                Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending

                @bermeck08 said:

                Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say

                Best OL @ 12

                Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.

                Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??

                I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?

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                D darubes wrote on last edited by
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                @thenew23 said:

                Why would we lose Taylor?

                Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending

                Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??

                I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?

                I agree. I think our O line is fine. Obviously it needs depth but no need to burn

                a first or even second round pick here.There are so many other holes that need

                filled.QB is the glaring weakness on this team as it always is. Putting that aside

                you need a run stopper and a pass rusher on the D line and a WR.We may as well

                try to make a dominant defense as we can't seem to find even an average QB.

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                  For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.

                  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000441570/article/tracking-underclassmen-intentions-for-2015-nfl-draft

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  I do not understand the thinking of D-line over O-line...

                  It took only one injury to decimate our O-line. It took three to diminish our D-line.

                  @texasag1969 said:

                  For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.

                  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000441570/article/tracking-underclassmen-intentions-for-2015-nfl-draft

                  Thank you, my Ag-ish friend... some talent declaring, more deciding.

                  One thing I just learned was this whole "draft grade request process"... did not know it existed until now.

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                    P Pcollier19 wrote on last edited by
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                    Both of these picks are no brainers if available. Devante Parker at 12 and Eddie Goldman at 19. O line will come after.

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                      L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                      IMO there is almost zero chance of Farmer drafting a WR in the first round.

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                        Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say

                        Best OL @ 12

                        Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.

                        7-9 is an improvement, despite tanking the last 5 games...this team wasnt a playoff team, not even close. Until we build depth and "find our QB"--- i beleive we will stay in this 6/7 win malaise (with sprinkle of embarrasment- ie Bungle game 2)

                        Ownership is OK, kind of a rocky start for Jimmy...but as things calmed down for him and his other problems---he seems to be on the right track---love what he said today...he mentioned the fans and is disqusted with our rookies.

                        GM/Coaching looks good...dont think Farmer had anything to do with johhny football---his other moves seem good...Gilbert is going to come around, the additions to our D is fine. If we are to pull the trigger on another QB in the draft, I hope its all Farmer. Coach Petine is cool calm and collected...eventually he will be a winner.

                        Bermeck (despite the Johhny flop, last off season was a building block...lets keep building - instead of tearing down)

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                        Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                        @bermeck08 said:

                        Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say

                        Best OL @ 12

                        Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.

                        7-9 is an improvement, despite tanking the last 5 games...this team wasnt a playoff team, not even close. Until we build depth and "find our QB"--- i beleive we will stay in this 6/7 win malaise (with sprinkle of embarrasment- ie Bungle game 2)

                        Wasn't a playoff team? We were 6-3 and in 1st place. Couldn't finish the deal- QB play and injuries compromised our depth.

                        We aren't that far away. A solid RT, better QB play (I know, elusive for the Browns), and a reliable WR that is a bigger target would right the ship. The AFC North is tough, but the Browns held their own in every game except the 2nd Cincy game.

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                          Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by Canton Mike
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                          IMHO, immediate help at WR is not coming through the draft. That will be a FA/trade issue & an extremely important one. We need VETERAN WRs who already CAN run solid routes & make the tough catches. Who knows what may happen?

                          Mike

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                            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                            The two lines need talent. The O-Line is especially in need of talent.

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                              5150k95 5150k9 wrote on last edited by
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                              As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

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                                As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

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                                H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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                                @5150k9 said:

                                As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

                                I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

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                                  @5150k9 said:

                                  As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

                                  I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

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                                  5150k95 5150k9 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @hunt-daddy said:

                                  I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

                                  I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?

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                                    TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by TopDawg31
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                                    I saw in somebody's mock they had us taking the OT from Stanford I think, big guy 6-8, 315 beast they said. Andrus Peat.

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                                      @hunt-daddy said:

                                      I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

                                      I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?

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                                      H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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                                      @5150k9 said:

                                      I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?

                                      Gurley has more natural talent and athleticism for the position, but it's hard to argue what Chubb has done this season, especially this game against the third best rush defense in the nation.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        Yes, Gurely is better

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                                          B bermeck08 wrote on last edited by
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                                          OK, depth at OL .... (not that it matters) but folks down in Lexington say Dupree is going to move up...coach stoops wasnt playing him correctly...dude is a freak ---and had some impact against good talent. The FA market looks good either side of the ball. It should be interesting how the organization grades out what we have currently.

                                          Im thinking the only position im happy with on offense is RB ... and yet ,already saw a mock the Browns taking Gurley(Sp)...hell of a back, but we already showed that movie...i think were set with our young backs

                                          Defense line might be the real weakness....hard to imagine with the treasure we spent. Everyone is saying NT.

                                          who knows.

                                          Bermeck (we should be happy...no major coaching changes, and our owner isnt in prison (yet)

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