# 12 and # 19
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If we're losing Taylor and Rubin for sure than yeah the 1st pick has to be a DT/NT....unless Pettine and Oneil decide that maybe more 4-3 looks are the way to go than maybe a DE? We'll probably be losing Sheard and converting Kruger to DE is probably the best thing that could happen to him.
Why would we lose Taylor?
Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending
Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say
Best OL @ 12
Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.
Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??
I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?
Why would we lose Taylor?
Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending
Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??
I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?
I agree, actually. I'd be going DL/OLB, as it stands, without FA being even thought about yet. Pick up an OT/OG like Bitonio who can play/cover both positions, dump McQuistan who was supposed to be that guy this year, and go from there.
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For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.
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A ton of talent on the Dline coming out this year. A great fit to begin addressing the needs of this team.
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If we're losing Taylor and Rubin for sure than yeah the 1st pick has to be a DT/NT....unless Pettine and Oneil decide that maybe more 4-3 looks are the way to go than maybe a DE? We'll probably be losing Sheard and converting Kruger to DE is probably the best thing that could happen to him.
Why would we lose Taylor?
Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending
Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say
Best OL @ 12
Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.
Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??
I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?
Why would we lose Taylor?
Either way, I think Rubin can walk and we need to use a 1st pick on a DT/NT... Free Agency pending
Who exactly on our O-line is so terrible that we NEED to use a 1st round pick to replace them??
I'm all for using picks on the o-line for depth, but really what is so bad with our starting line once Mack returns?
I agree. I think our O line is fine. Obviously it needs depth but no need to burn
a first or even second round pick here.There are so many other holes that need
filled.QB is the glaring weakness on this team as it always is. Putting that aside
you need a run stopper and a pass rusher on the D line and a WR.We may as well
try to make a dominant defense as we can't seem to find even an average QB.
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For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.
I do not understand the thinking of D-line over O-line...
It took only one injury to decimate our O-line. It took three to diminish our D-line.
For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.
Thank you, my Ag-ish friend... some talent declaring, more deciding.
One thing I just learned was this whole "draft grade request process"... did not know it existed until now.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Both of these picks are no brainers if available. Devante Parker at 12 and Eddie Goldman at 19. O line will come after.
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IMO there is almost zero chance of Farmer drafting a WR in the first round.
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Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say
Best OL @ 12
Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.
7-9 is an improvement, despite tanking the last 5 games...this team wasnt a playoff team, not even close. Until we build depth and "find our QB"--- i beleive we will stay in this 6/7 win malaise (with sprinkle of embarrasment- ie Bungle game 2)
Ownership is OK, kind of a rocky start for Jimmy...but as things calmed down for him and his other problems---he seems to be on the right track---love what he said today...he mentioned the fans and is disqusted with our rookies.
GM/Coaching looks good...dont think Farmer had anything to do with johhny football---his other moves seem good...Gilbert is going to come around, the additions to our D is fine. If we are to pull the trigger on another QB in the draft, I hope its all Farmer. Coach Petine is cool calm and collected...eventually he will be a winner.
Bermeck (despite the Johhny flop, last off season was a building block...lets keep building - instead of tearing down)
Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say
Best OL @ 12
Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.
7-9 is an improvement, despite tanking the last 5 games...this team wasnt a playoff team, not even close. Until we build depth and "find our QB"--- i beleive we will stay in this 6/7 win malaise (with sprinkle of embarrasment- ie Bungle game 2)
Wasn't a playoff team? We were 6-3 and in 1st place. Couldn't finish the deal- QB play and injuries compromised our depth.
We aren't that far away. A solid RT, better QB play (I know, elusive for the Browns), and a reliable WR that is a bigger target would right the ship. The AFC North is tough, but the Browns held their own in every game except the 2nd Cincy game.
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IMHO, immediate help at WR is not coming through the draft. That will be a FA/trade issue & an extremely important one. We need VETERAN WRs who already CAN run solid routes & make the tough catches. Who knows what may happen?
Mike
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The two lines need talent. The O-Line is especially in need of talent.
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As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.
As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.
I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.
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I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.
I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?
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I saw in somebody's mock they had us taking the OT from Stanford I think, big guy 6-8, 315 beast they said. Andrus Peat.
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I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.
I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?
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Yes, Gurely is better
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OK, depth at OL .... (not that it matters) but folks down in Lexington say Dupree is going to move up...coach stoops wasnt playing him correctly...dude is a freak ---and had some impact against good talent. The FA market looks good either side of the ball. It should be interesting how the organization grades out what we have currently.
Im thinking the only position im happy with on offense is RB ... and yet ,already saw a mock the Browns taking Gurley(Sp)...hell of a back, but we already showed that movie...i think were set with our young backs
Defense line might be the real weakness....hard to imagine with the treasure we spent. Everyone is saying NT.
who knows.
Bermeck (we should be happy...no major coaching changes, and our owner isnt in prison (yet)
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I saw in somebody's mock they had us taking the OT from Stanford I think, big guy 6-8, 315 beast they said. Andrus Peat.
I saw in somebody's mock they had us taking the OT from Stanford I think, big guy 6-8, 315 beast they said. Andrus Peat.
He hasn't declared yet, but if he does he will likely not be available by #12. We'd have to trade into him and there are too many good OT's out there to justify that this year. One of those is still likely available at #19, so I would not be surprised to see a better run stopper taken at #12.
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For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
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For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?
It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally
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