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  • B bermeck08

    Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say

    Best OL @ 12

    Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.

    7-9 is an improvement, despite tanking the last 5 games...this team wasnt a playoff team, not even close. Until we build depth and "find our QB"--- i beleive we will stay in this 6/7 win malaise (with sprinkle of embarrasment- ie Bungle game 2)

    Ownership is OK, kind of a rocky start for Jimmy...but as things calmed down for him and his other problems---he seems to be on the right track---love what he said today...he mentioned the fans and is disqusted with our rookies.

    GM/Coaching looks good...dont think Farmer had anything to do with johhny football---his other moves seem good...Gilbert is going to come around, the additions to our D is fine. If we are to pull the trigger on another QB in the draft, I hope its all Farmer. Coach Petine is cool calm and collected...eventually he will be a winner.

    Bermeck (despite the Johhny flop, last off season was a building block...lets keep building - instead of tearing down)

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    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    @bermeck08 said:

    Until we can settle on which horrible QB this franchise going to keep... I say

    Best OL @ 12

    Trade out for more players @ 19 ... regime building time. Finally.

    7-9 is an improvement, despite tanking the last 5 games...this team wasnt a playoff team, not even close. Until we build depth and "find our QB"--- i beleive we will stay in this 6/7 win malaise (with sprinkle of embarrasment- ie Bungle game 2)

    Wasn't a playoff team? We were 6-3 and in 1st place. Couldn't finish the deal- QB play and injuries compromised our depth.

    We aren't that far away. A solid RT, better QB play (I know, elusive for the Browns), and a reliable WR that is a bigger target would right the ship. The AFC North is tough, but the Browns held their own in every game except the 2nd Cincy game.

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      Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by Canton Mike
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      IMHO, immediate help at WR is not coming through the draft. That will be a FA/trade issue & an extremely important one. We need VETERAN WRs who already CAN run solid routes & make the tough catches. Who knows what may happen?

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        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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        The two lines need talent. The O-Line is especially in need of talent.

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          5150k95 5150k9 wrote on last edited by
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          As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

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            As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

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            H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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            @5150k9 said:

            As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

            I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

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              @5150k9 said:

              As mentioned earlier, the underclassmen haven't all declared yet, so I won't be specific, but IMHO DL-#12,WR-#19. Off Topic, you guys see that Fournette kid from LSU, He's a beast.

              I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

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              5150k95 5150k9 wrote on last edited by
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              @hunt-daddy said:

              I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

              I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?

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                TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by TopDawg31
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                I saw in somebody's mock they had us taking the OT from Stanford I think, big guy 6-8, 315 beast they said. Andrus Peat.

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                  @hunt-daddy said:

                  I'll stay with the off topic part. Fournette is real good, but he's no Nick Chubb.

                  I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?

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                  H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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                  @5150k9 said:

                  I would take either , haven't watched much Georgia, was Gurley better?

                  Gurley has more natural talent and athleticism for the position, but it's hard to argue what Chubb has done this season, especially this game against the third best rush defense in the nation.

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    Yes, Gurely is better

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                      B bermeck08 wrote on last edited by
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                      OK, depth at OL .... (not that it matters) but folks down in Lexington say Dupree is going to move up...coach stoops wasnt playing him correctly...dude is a freak ---and had some impact against good talent. The FA market looks good either side of the ball. It should be interesting how the organization grades out what we have currently.

                      Im thinking the only position im happy with on offense is RB ... and yet ,already saw a mock the Browns taking Gurley(Sp)...hell of a back, but we already showed that movie...i think were set with our young backs

                      Defense line might be the real weakness....hard to imagine with the treasure we spent. Everyone is saying NT.

                      who knows.

                      Bermeck (we should be happy...no major coaching changes, and our owner isnt in prison (yet)

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                        I saw in somebody's mock they had us taking the OT from Stanford I think, big guy 6-8, 315 beast they said. Andrus Peat.

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                        @topdawg31 said:

                        I saw in somebody's mock they had us taking the OT from Stanford I think, big guy 6-8, 315 beast they said. Andrus Peat.

                        He hasn't declared yet, but if he does he will likely not be available by #12. We'd have to trade into him and there are too many good OT's out there to justify that this year. One of those is still likely available at #19, so I would not be surprised to see a better run stopper taken at #12.

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                          T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                          For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                          It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

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                            For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                            It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

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                            Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                            @tacosman said:

                            For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                            It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

                            Hilarious

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                              For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                              It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              @tacosman said:

                              For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                              It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

                              Lol, Johnny can't even learn a playbook and we're going to let him draft for us now?

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                                For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                                It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @tacosman said:

                                For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                                It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

                                LMAO... priceless.

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                                  There's always a premium placed on offensive tackles and after the incredible impact that the past class of WRs had this season I wouldn't wait to pick up players in those spots if the FO has identified them as areas of weakness. Solid interior linemen are often found in the 2nd round and beyond.

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                                  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                    I do not understand the thinking of D-line over O-line...

                                    It took only one injury to decimate our O-line. It took three to diminish our D-line.

                                    @texasag1969 said:

                                    For Tour: Tracking to Jan 15 Deadline.

                                    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000441570/article/tracking-underclassmen-intentions-for-2015-nfl-draft

                                    Thank you, my Ag-ish friend... some talent declaring, more deciding.

                                    One thing I just learned was this whole "draft grade request process"... did not know it existed until now.

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                                    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    I do not understand the thinking of D-line over O-line....

                                    Probably because our defense ranked dead last out of all teams this year in run defense, allowing an average of over 140 yards rushing per game. Or maybe the fact that the teams we play next year have some of the best running backs in the game, including Le'Veon Bell (twice), Marshawn Lynch, Jeremy Hill (twice), Jamaal Charles, Frank Gore, etc, that will fucking CRUCIFY us unless we get some serious additions to the D-Line. Take your pick.

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                                      For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                                      It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

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                                      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tacosman said:

                                      For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                                      It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

                                      I think it's time for you to stop hittin' the blue there, Heisenberg, and come back to fucking reality.

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                                        For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                                        It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

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                                        5150k95 5150k9 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tacosman said:

                                        For the 12 amd 19 pick, the best thing to do for the draft would be have Pettine and farmer go to Johnny and say - what do you need in this draft to help you succeed? What players out there do you think your game would blend with best?

                                        It's important that your pieces on offense for optimally

                                        Thats Hilarious, I gotta admit you have a great sense of humor. I about fell out of my chair on that 1.

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                                          For the Rose Bowl:

                                          I've watched 80% of Oregon games over the past two years. Here is my watch list.

                                          Arik Armstead DE, #9 - Huge and athletic. Is 6-8, 280 and uses it to eat up space. Great prospect to add to the Defensive line. He played great against Michigan State. After the playoffs and the combine, this guy will rise to a Top 20 Pick.

                                          Byron Marshall WR/RB, #9 - Marshall has always impressed me because of his vision and burst, however, now he is showing his versatility. This year he moved to slot receiver/back and has flourished. I could see him going in the 4th like DeAnthony Thomas. While not as dynamic, Marshall has more polish.

                                          Marcus Mariota - I know there is no chance we would get him on the Browns, however, some members need to watch him to realize that he is not a running quarterback. Also they will see that he progresses through his reads and has excellent pocket movement. So many people post responses incorrectly about Mariota.

                                          Joe Walker ILB, #35 - Always around the ball. Walker is an excellent run stuffer with good size. The last linebacker I remember seeing pop up this much was Kiko Alonso. Walker isn't the athlete Alonso is, however he's a steady force and should make the NFL. Probably stays in school for next season, but should be a solid Day 3 pick.

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