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  • Zombo Z
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    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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    Foles is 6'6 243, 26 years old with 28 games under his belt and a 94 passer rating. I'd grab him. But Texans and Titans may want him more.

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      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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      Foles would instantly become the best QB the Browns have had since 1999, and that's just SAD

      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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        thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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        I'd make a trade, but not exacly the one you propose.

        Maybe our 1st for Foles and another player/s, or Foles and a 2nd rounder or something along those lines...

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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          Toss in Brandon Graham and we might start having a discussion.

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            WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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            This would open up a possibility of Nick Foles becoming a hot offseason commodity for those of you looking at other QB options.

            http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000461759/article/sources-tell-us-inside-scoop-on-prospects-at-senior-bowl

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              I'd make a trade, but not exacly the one you propose.

              Maybe our 1st for Foles and another player/s, or Foles and a 2nd rounder or something along those lines...

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              jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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              @thenew23 said:

              I'd make a trade, but not exacly the one you propose.

              Maybe our 1st for Foles and another player/s, or Foles and a 2nd rounder or something along those lines...

              I would consider Foles and their 2nd for our number 19. The thing is they are going to want to maximize their ammo to trade up this year. In my scenario we give up one of our first and our second, get Foles AND get those picks back next year. They would be lucky if then can pack the two 1's and two 2's to move up where they need to be. If he slips to Jacksonville I think they might consider it. They need a few picks I think.

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                @thenew23 said:

                I'd make a trade, but not exacly the one you propose.

                Maybe our 1st for Foles and another player/s, or Foles and a 2nd rounder or something along those lines...

                I would consider Foles and their 2nd for our number 19. The thing is they are going to want to maximize their ammo to trade up this year. In my scenario we give up one of our first and our second, get Foles AND get those picks back next year. They would be lucky if then can pack the two 1's and two 2's to move up where they need to be. If he slips to Jacksonville I think they might consider it. They need a few picks I think.

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                hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                @jcam222 said:

                I would consider Foles and their 2nd for our number 19. The thing is they are going to want to maximize their ammo to trade up this year. In my scenario we give up one of our first and our second, get Foles AND get those picks back next year. They would be lucky if then can pack the two 1's and two 2's to move up where they need to be. If he slips to Jacksonville I think they might consider it. They need a few picks I think.

                Not happening- Philly does not have the ammo, even if they unload Foles. The picks they would be able to offer to a top 5 team plain aren't high enough.

                @jcam222 said:

                Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

                For Philly to realistically move up to get Mariota, they would need at least our #12, their #20, a first next year- and maybe more than that.

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                  Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                  Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @jcam222 said:

                  Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                  Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

                  In the year prior, with the 29/2 ratio, he was in Kelly's system as well.

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                    This would open up a possibility of Nick Foles becoming a hot offseason commodity for those of you looking at other QB options.

                    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000461759/article/sources-tell-us-inside-scoop-on-prospects-at-senior-bowl

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                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                    @walterwhite said:

                    This would open up a possibility of Nick Foles becoming a hot offseason commodity for those of you looking at other QB options.

                    Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

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                      Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                      Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      @jcam222 said:

                      Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                      Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

                      Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        @jcam222 said:

                        Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                        Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

                        Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

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                        @ballpeen said:

                        Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

                        Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

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                            @ballpeen said:

                            Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

                            Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

                            WSS

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                            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

                            WSS

                            Chip Kelly just doesn't see him as a fit for his system. He has been looking for a mobile QB for awhile now. He had Vick but he is fragile.

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                              @walterwhite said:

                              This would open up a possibility of Nick Foles becoming a hot offseason commodity for those of you looking at other QB options.

                              Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                              @miktoxic said:

                              Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

                              Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                              @tour2ma said:

                              But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo...

                              But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                              So let's go Eagle shopping...

                              Nick Foles -

                              Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                              Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                              Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                              No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

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                                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares
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                                Foles, Lane, and Cox would be fantastic. I just don't see it happening though.

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                                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                  One interesting thing about Foles as I was looking at his stats: I know some people may be turned away with his mediocre 13 TD 10 INT ratio he had before he got hurt this year. However, according to the stats he went from about 25 attempts per game in 2013 to almost 39 this past season. I liked Foles out of the draft and I think he'd be a great trade pick-up. He's got everything you wanna see in a QB other than the scramble ability but Jesus what I wouldn't give up to have a pocket passer in Cleveland.

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                                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                    I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                                    It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

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                                      I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                                      It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

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                                      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                                      It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

                                      So "the Browns fans", I thought there for awhile you were among and one of us.

                                      We have nothing game proven on hand is the point. We WILL bring in someone who has started NFL games and won a few. I think we are simply saying Foles would be a great get. Not only has he done well he is young. If he happened to work out he could be a long term answer or great trade bait if Manziel turns from shit to shine.

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                                        @miktoxic said:

                                        Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

                                        Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo...

                                        But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                                        So let's go Eagle shopping...

                                        Nick Foles -

                                        Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                                        Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                                        Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                                        No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                                        But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                                        So let's go Eagle shopping...

                                        Nick Foles -

                                        Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                                        Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                                        Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                                        No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

                                        Not a chance in hell the Iggles give up Fletcher or Johnson. Those two, aside from a franchise QB are cornerstone's to that team.

                                        Also, perhaps I'm not understanding the obsession with Foles? He looked great in Kelly's system year one. Not so much in year 2.

                                        Sanchez looked like he might have his career and 1st round status revived the first few games under Chip, not so much after other teams had film on him.

                                        Why should we look at Foles any different then we look at Sanchez?

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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                                          But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                                          So let's go Eagle shopping...

                                          Nick Foles -

                                          Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                                          Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                                          Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                                          No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

                                          Not a chance in hell the Iggles give up Fletcher or Johnson. Those two, aside from a franchise QB are cornerstone's to that team.

                                          Also, perhaps I'm not understanding the obsession with Foles? He looked great in Kelly's system year one. Not so much in year 2.

                                          Sanchez looked like he might have his career and 1st round status revived the first few games under Chip, not so much after other teams had film on him.

                                          Why should we look at Foles any different then we look at Sanchez?

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                                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          Not a chance in hell the Iggles give up Fletcher or Johnson. Those two, aside from a franchise QB are cornerstone's to that team.

                                          Also, perhaps I'm not understanding the obsession with Foles? He looked great in Kelly's system year one. Not so much in year 2.

                                          Sanchez looked like he might have his career and 1st round status revived the first few games under Chip, not so much after other teams had film on him.

                                          Why should we look at Foles any different then we look at Sanchez?

                                          Well you can make an argument that the "sophomore slump" is a very real thing with QB's in the NFL. I know this past season was technically year 3, but last year was his first real time starting gig. Again, I think he's a good QB with all the things you want to see in a pocket passing QB. I just think he was a round peg in Kelly's offense because he's not mobile much at all.

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