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  • jcam222J jcam222

    Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

    Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    @jcam222 said:

    Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

    Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

    In the year prior, with the 29/2 ratio, he was in Kelly's system as well.

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      This would open up a possibility of Nick Foles becoming a hot offseason commodity for those of you looking at other QB options.

      http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000461759/article/sources-tell-us-inside-scoop-on-prospects-at-senior-bowl

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      @walterwhite said:

      This would open up a possibility of Nick Foles becoming a hot offseason commodity for those of you looking at other QB options.

      Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

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      • jcam222J jcam222

        Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

        Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

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        @jcam222 said:

        Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

        Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

        Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          @jcam222 said:

          Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

          Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

          Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

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          @ballpeen said:

          Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

          Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

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            An old favorite on why Kelly backed out on the Bucs.....

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              @ballpeen said:

              Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

              Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

              WSS

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              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

              WSS

              Chip Kelly just doesn't see him as a fit for his system. He has been looking for a mobile QB for awhile now. He had Vick but he is fragile.

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                @walterwhite said:

                This would open up a possibility of Nick Foles becoming a hot offseason commodity for those of you looking at other QB options.

                Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                @miktoxic said:

                Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

                Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                @tour2ma said:

                But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo...

                But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                So let's go Eagle shopping...

                Nick Foles -

                Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares
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                  Foles, Lane, and Cox would be fantastic. I just don't see it happening though.

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                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                    One interesting thing about Foles as I was looking at his stats: I know some people may be turned away with his mediocre 13 TD 10 INT ratio he had before he got hurt this year. However, according to the stats he went from about 25 attempts per game in 2013 to almost 39 this past season. I liked Foles out of the draft and I think he'd be a great trade pick-up. He's got everything you wanna see in a QB other than the scramble ability but Jesus what I wouldn't give up to have a pocket passer in Cleveland.

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                      I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                      It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

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                        I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                        It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

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                        jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                        It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

                        So "the Browns fans", I thought there for awhile you were among and one of us.

                        We have nothing game proven on hand is the point. We WILL bring in someone who has started NFL games and won a few. I think we are simply saying Foles would be a great get. Not only has he done well he is young. If he happened to work out he could be a long term answer or great trade bait if Manziel turns from shit to shine.

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                          @miktoxic said:

                          Most of us 'smart' people have been discussing this for awhile now.

                          Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                          @tour2ma said:

                          But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo...

                          But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                          So let's go Eagle shopping...

                          Nick Foles -

                          Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                          Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                          Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                          No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

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                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                          @tour2ma said:

                          Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                          But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                          So let's go Eagle shopping...

                          Nick Foles -

                          Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                          Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                          Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                          No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

                          Not a chance in hell the Iggles give up Fletcher or Johnson. Those two, aside from a franchise QB are cornerstone's to that team.

                          Also, perhaps I'm not understanding the obsession with Foles? He looked great in Kelly's system year one. Not so much in year 2.

                          Sanchez looked like he might have his career and 1st round status revived the first few games under Chip, not so much after other teams had film on him.

                          Why should we look at Foles any different then we look at Sanchez?

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                            @tour2ma said:

                            Not exactly the way I'd put it, but...

                            But to go for Mariotta Chip needs lots of ammo, like our two first rounders atop the Eagles first. Just so happens that per the latest draft pick charts #12+#19+#20 damn near = #1.

                            So let's go Eagle shopping...

                            Nick Foles -

                            Fletcher Cox (DT) - 24-yo, Former #1, has played DE and DT, 2nd team All-Pro

                            Lane Johnson (RT) - 24-yo, Former #4 overall; PED suspension, injured.

                            Connor Barwin (ILB) - 28-yo, oft injured vet, but force on the field.

                            No way I see all four, but Foles plus 2 and perhaps a later pick?

                            Not a chance in hell the Iggles give up Fletcher or Johnson. Those two, aside from a franchise QB are cornerstone's to that team.

                            Also, perhaps I'm not understanding the obsession with Foles? He looked great in Kelly's system year one. Not so much in year 2.

                            Sanchez looked like he might have his career and 1st round status revived the first few games under Chip, not so much after other teams had film on him.

                            Why should we look at Foles any different then we look at Sanchez?

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                            jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                            @tiamat63 said:

                            Not a chance in hell the Iggles give up Fletcher or Johnson. Those two, aside from a franchise QB are cornerstone's to that team.

                            Also, perhaps I'm not understanding the obsession with Foles? He looked great in Kelly's system year one. Not so much in year 2.

                            Sanchez looked like he might have his career and 1st round status revived the first few games under Chip, not so much after other teams had film on him.

                            Why should we look at Foles any different then we look at Sanchez?

                            Well you can make an argument that the "sophomore slump" is a very real thing with QB's in the NFL. I know this past season was technically year 3, but last year was his first real time starting gig. Again, I think he's a good QB with all the things you want to see in a pocket passing QB. I just think he was a round peg in Kelly's offense because he's not mobile much at all.

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                            • jcam222J jcam222

                              Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                              Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

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                              andeftwA andeftw wrote on last edited by
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                              @jcam222 said:

                              Multiple sources are reporting there is great interest within Philly to move up. I happen to like Nick Foles and think that Chip Kellys offense was just not a good fit for him. In the year prior he was an excellent down field passer with 2900 yds, 27 TDs vs 2 INT. In my opinion he is more than just a bridge gap for us and the new OC Flip.

                              Would you give our first rounder number 19 and our 2nd round pick for Philly's 1st and 2nd from 2016 AND Foles? Flame away

                              Is the 19th pick in the draft worth a 2016 second round pick and a starting QB?

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                                Farmer will bring in competition at the QB position. If that competition is a late round prospect or middle of the road FA then he was responsible for the JCF pick. If, however, he uses another high round pick it starts looking like he was saddled with the JCF pick.

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                                  I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                                  It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

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                                  @texasag1969 said:

                                  I find it somewhat amusing that the Browns fans are always in search of the next "savior" like Ian Malcolm of Jurassic Park always in search of "the next ex-Mrs. Malcolm".

                                  It would be nice to allow the new OC to find out for himself what he has on hand before the fans trade again. LOL! 😆

                                  "I don't know if our starting qb is in the building.".

                                  Ag, you're being reasonable- some Johnny thumpers on the other board are gonna kill themselves.

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                                    @ballpeen said:

                                    Philly wants to move up. The best way to get Foles is to tade our pick at 19 for Foles, straight up. That way Philly has more ability to do so.

                                    Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

                                    WSS

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

                                    WSS

                                    I am not necessiarly saying that is what we should do, but on a hypothetical note, you don't always need a "franchise" guy. A good solid QB works as well. I think Foles is that. I don't think spending a 1st rounder for a proven solid QB who still has some upside is a bad trade.

                                    I think the Philly deal is they want a QB who can do more with his feet. A better system fit which could really open their offense.

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      Yes. But that also means that Philadelphia doesn't see him as a franchise quarterback. So is it worth another number one for us?

                                      WSS

                                      I am not necessiarly saying that is what we should do, but on a hypothetical note, you don't always need a "franchise" guy. A good solid QB works as well. I think Foles is that. I don't think spending a 1st rounder for a proven solid QB who still has some upside is a bad trade.

                                      I think the Philly deal is they want a QB who can do more with his feet. A better system fit which could really open their offense.

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                                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                      @ballpeen said:

                                      I am not necessiarly saying that is what we should do, but on a hypothetical note, you don't always need a "franchise" guy. A good solid QB works as well. I think Foles is that. I don't think spending a 1st rounder for a proven solid QB who still has some upside is a bad trade.

                                      I think the Philly deal is they want a QB who can do more with his feet. A better system fit which could really open their offense.

                                      well if he can't get mariotta, we have a guy on the bench who is supposed to be mobile. trade that dud straight up for foles.

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                                        @ballpeen said:

                                        I am not necessiarly saying that is what we should do, but on a hypothetical note, you don't always need a "franchise" guy. A good solid QB works as well. I think Foles is that. I don't think spending a 1st rounder for a proven solid QB who still has some upside is a bad trade.

                                        I think the Philly deal is they want a QB who can do more with his feet. A better system fit which could really open their offense.

                                        well if he can't get mariotta, we have a guy on the bench who is supposed to be mobile. trade that dud straight up for foles.

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                                        @miktoxic said:

                                        well if he can't get mariotta, we have a guy on the bench who is supposed to be mobile. trade that dud straight up for foles.

                                        And we can get a bidding war going between him and Jerrah!

                                        I am sure most are aware that JM had originally committed to Chip at Oregon before switching closer to home with the A&M offer.

                                        plus the price would not be near as high as it will be for Mariota.

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                                          @miktoxic said:

                                          well if he can't get mariotta, we have a guy on the bench who is supposed to be mobile. trade that dud straight up for foles.

                                          And we can get a bidding war going between him and Jerrah!

                                          I am sure most are aware that JM had originally committed to Chip at Oregon before switching closer to home with the A&M offer.

                                          plus the price would not be near as high as it will be for Mariota.

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          And we can get a bidding war going between him and Jerrah!

                                          I am sure most are aware that JM had originally committed to Chip at Oregon before switching closer to home with the A&M offer.

                                          I was under the impression that was because Oregon wouldn't play him at QB though?

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