Resign Sheard and pay Taylor
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It surprises me how many players Browns fans want to keep. This team has barely won any games with these players yet every time one leaves or looks to be leaving, the fans are angry about it.
It surprises me how many players Browns fans want to keep. This team has barely won any games with these players yet every time one leaves or looks to be leaving, the fans are angry about it.
The Browns had a very deep Defensive Line last year, but as deep as it was it was still devastated by massive injuries.
We want to keep these players because they have talent and provide that depth. Losing them does not assure that you will replace them with equal talent....and certainly doesn't help the depth issue.
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Not just a mater of edge rushers... matter of needing a 3-down OLB to play opposite Krugs. When Sheard is opposite him, it's the closest thing to a 5-man D-line since Allen's "over-the-hill-gang" sprang one on Green Bay in an early '70's playoff game.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Not just a mater of edge rushers... matter of needing a 3-down OLB to play opposite Krugs. When Sheard is opposite him, it's the closest thing to a 5-man D-line since Allen's "over-the-hill-gang" sprang one on Green Bay in an early '70's playoff game.
Not just a mater of edge rushers... matter of needing a 3-down OLB to play opposite Krugs. When Sheard is opposite him, it's the closest thing to a 5-man D-line since Allen's "over-the-hill-gang" sprang one on Green Bay in an early '70's playoff game.
Yep....the ole 5-2.....(saw that more than once).....
And when the 5 failed, I kept hearing how bad the 2 were......
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Not just a mater of edge rushers... matter of needing a 3-down OLB to play opposite Krugs. When Sheard is opposite him, it's the closest thing to a 5-man D-line since Allen's "over-the-hill-gang" sprang one on Green Bay in an early '70's playoff game.
. Well when sheard and krug are in there are almost always only two interior lineman. I dont like that formation but pet seemed to love it all season. I hate two dl and two standing olb'ersNot just a mater of edge rushers... matter of needing a 3-down OLB to play opposite Krugs. When Sheard is opposite him, it's the closest thing to a 5-man D-line since Allen's "over-the-hill-gang" sprang one on Green Bay in an early '70's playoff game.
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It surprises me how many players Browns fans want to keep. This team has barely won any games with these players yet every time one leaves or looks to be leaving, the fans are angry about it.
It surprises me how many players Browns fans want to keep. This team has barely won any games with these players yet every time one leaves or looks to be leaving, the fans are angry about it.
Your past girlfriends haven't won any awards but I bet you were pretty pissed when they left you.
Same thing here. They may be ugly bitches, but they are our ugly bitches.
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Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Sheard refused to talk to tje FO? Thats not good....in fact i could probably then assume kruget wont resign when his cont is up either unless this team does a 180 now.
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Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
Sheard refused?.....where did you hear that?....they were talking contract earlier this year...
and where is Taylor going?
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Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
WTF are you talking about. Taylor has been injured.....but has played well when he has been in there.
We are talking about Phil Taylor.....Defensive Tackle for the Cleveland Browns. I am not sure which Phil Taylor you are talking about.
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Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
When we had Phil Taylor for the Thursday night game, the Bungles had no answer, they couldn't run cause of the beast in the middle and they couldn't pass cause Dalton is ass cheeks, and bam, Brownies 24 Bungles 3
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Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
Incorrect.
Phil Taylor hasn't just been injured.. he SUCKS. He is literally a gigantic first-round bust.. and that trade down from Julio Jones is looking foolish.
Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
Phil hasn't been a bust at all. He's been a steady presence and solid contributor. Not all first round picks are rockstars or busts. Some just end up being effective, its that simple.
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Sheard, just like Cameron, refused to talk to the Browns FO.
We do need to draft DL.. because we're losing Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin at a minimum.
Sheard refused?.....where did you hear that?....they were talking contract earlier this year...
and where is Taylor going?
Sheard refused?.....where did you hear that?....they were talking contract earlier this year...
and where is Taylor going?
Taylor is going nowhere this year.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/phil-taylor/
Yeah- I would think Sheard would at least listen to offers.
But- sounds like the Browns aren't interested. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6597/jabaal-sheard
Rubin will definitely either be cut or seriously restructured- not worth anything close to $8 million.
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Another thing to consider in this is that the FA defensive tackle market is pretty impressive this year. Rubin had a pretty disappointing year, I wouldn't mind letting him go and either drafting a DT or picking up one in FA.
I'm not crazy about Taylor but as I understand his salary is full counted against the cap even if we cut him.
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Another thing to consider in this is that the FA defensive tackle market is pretty impressive this year. Rubin had a pretty disappointing year, I wouldn't mind letting him go and either drafting a DT or picking up one in FA.
I'm not crazy about Taylor but as I understand his salary is full counted against the cap even if we cut him.
Another thing to consider in this is that the FA defensive tackle market is pretty impressive this year. Rubin had a pretty disappointing year, I wouldn't mind letting him go and either drafting a DT or picking up one in FA.
I'm not crazy about Taylor but as I understand his salary is full counted against the cap even if we cut him.
Of ESPN/Polian's top rated FA DTs.....four of them come from the Lions:
1. Suh Lions
2. Terence Knighton Denver
3. Jared Odrick Miami
4. Terrell McClain Dallas
5. CJ Mosley Lions
6. Alan Branch, Pats
7. Dwan Edwards Panthers
8. Nick Fairly Lions
9. Andre Fluellen Lions
10. Kevin Vickers KC
Polian actually ranked Sion Fua ahead of Rubin. Not so sure about that.
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With the exveption of suh...we should really make some offers to players on that list. Phil needs a running mate. We cant fold on the middle if he gets hurt again
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Another thing to consider in this is that the FA defensive tackle market is pretty impressive this year. Rubin had a pretty disappointing year, I wouldn't mind letting him go and either drafting a DT or picking up one in FA.
I'm not crazy about Taylor but as I understand his salary is full counted against the cap even if we cut him.
Of ESPN/Polian's top rated FA DTs.....four of them come from the Lions:
1. Suh Lions
2. Terence Knighton Denver
3. Jared Odrick Miami
4. Terrell McClain Dallas
5. CJ Mosley Lions
6. Alan Branch, Pats
7. Dwan Edwards Panthers
8. Nick Fairly Lions
9. Andre Fluellen Lions
10. Kevin Vickers KC
Polian actually ranked Sion Fua ahead of Rubin. Not so sure about that.
Of ESPN/Polian's top rated FA DTs.....four of them come from the Lions:
1. Suh Lions
2. Terence Knighton Denver
3. Jared Odrick Miami
4. Terrell McClain Dallas
5. CJ Mosley Lions
6. Alan Branch, Pats
7. Dwan Edwards Panthers
8. Nick Fairly Lions
9. Andre Fluellen Lions
10. Kevin Vickers KC
Polian actually ranked Sion Fua ahead of Rubin. Not so sure about that.
Surprised Wilfork isn't on that list but I suppose age is getting to him. The top 4 of that list are very good though-Knighton would be a solid FA pickup but I'm not sure what his price tag is going to be.
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That list was probably made before wilfork came free
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Polian is a tard. Rubin is a good space eater but isn't someone I want to over pay. He offers nothing in the pass rush so we should be able to find a young hungry guy to fill his role.
I think we're ok at nose tackle with Phil Taylor and John Hughes. We need to focus on getting another versatile DE to solidify our front 7
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Polian is a tard. Rubin is a good space eater but isn't someone I want to over pay. He offers nothing in the pass rush so we should be able to find a young hungry guy to fill his role.
I think we're ok at nose tackle with Phil Taylor and John Hughes. We need to focus on getting another versatile DE to solidify our front 7
Polian is a tard. Rubin is a good space eater but isn't someone I want to over pay. He offers nothing in the pass rush so we should be able to find a young hungry guy to fill his role.
I think we're ok at nose tackle with Phil Taylor and John Hughes. We need to focus on getting another versatile DE to solidify our front 7
I think we're good at the 5 tech, imo, with the Bryant's.
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