Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Who bought a manziel Jersey. Miktoxic, woody, zombo........,
Hell no. I will get a Funchess jersey if the opportunity presents itself though
and if it doesn't, I should still get a new jersey. Right now, I have a Braylon jersey haha.
If we resigned Skrine I might have gotten his. Not sure now
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You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to. KV
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A. You are BEING an ass.
B. I know it's stupid, but I'm a positive guy, I was born a middle class, goofball BROWNS FAN comedian child.
C. People make their own decisions. It isn't our fault you are frustrated - who isn't? You think bitching helps?
D. Nobody is getting "screwed over". You think the Browns are trying to piz you off? It is what it is, bad start, wrong fo,
wrong coaches. The Browns have fixed that, and last season was their first. It isn't like they draft in the top three picks.
E. I read them for fun, that's why I've been around here for such a long time. Laughing is good.
F. So, you're whining that the Browns should make stupid, expensive moves in FA, just so you can not bitch so much? really?
G. I admire Farmer, and Pettine - and I'm delighted that Flip replaced Shanny. We're good to go now.
H. Oh, you don't like our upbeatness? Gee..."You dont have to click on the threads or even read them"
I. as in, I don't have to have the Browns go to the playoffs or superbowl, to be a fan. Most of us are that way.
J. You might think you're a "peep", but the rest of us will crow when the Browns get it together this coming season,
and really start having a season better than 7 wins.
K. Yes, that's a prediction, and I'm not a quitter, and I don't bitch. Not very much, anyways......
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I don't give up on him as quickly as most of you guys do. Give him a real line that allows more than 2 seconds and better play calling/design that takes advantage of what he can do rather than stuffing him in a system and you may see the real reason he holds a lot of major SEC records. You only saw a shadow of the real Johnny Football. He's a competitive person and when rehab is done he will show the kind of dedication you all expected rather than a guy trying to live up to a name he never asked for. He has the right QB coach and the right OC to give him the best shot at being a real NFL player. I'm banking on the fact he has always taken up the challenge in the past and done the things he needed to do AFTER he won the Heisman to make himself a better player. That now includes putting himself through a very humbling rehab. process that has put him up to ridicule here and elsewhere.
Did the offensive linemen, OC, and QB coach drive him down to happy hour instead of handing him a playbook? It seems as if you are absolving your substance abusing leprechaun from any blame for how he performed.
Did the offensive linemen, OC, and QB coach drive him down to happy hour instead of handing him a playbook? It seems as if you are absolving your substance abusing leprechaun from any blame for how he performed.
Nope they did not and I think by now he knows where the blame lies and realizes it's time to be Johnny Manziel and not Johnny Football. He fell into a trap and now seems to want out and has taken very serious steps to do so. The very first thing we ever heard out his mouth (since Sumlin did not let freshmen speak to the media) was during a taped fun tape played at Kyle Field (A&M) when players were asked what their nicknames were. Here he was about to win the Heisman and his answer was almost in the form of a question, "Well some people call me Johnny Football, I guess." Then he started trying to live it rather than just continue to be himself, a talented player out of Kerrville, Texas. He got caught up in way too much premature fame and it damn near killed him. I think when rehab is done we just see a talented player from Texas A&M who wants to be the best he can be for the Browns. After this past year he knows it's far harder than he thought it would be.
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The Soldier said:
Why does he DESERVE privacy?
Johnny self-promoted his whole life. That's what he's about. He wants to be in the media and he wants attention. He's all about Hollywood.
Can't have it both ways.
Now does he deserve support, maybe another chance, help? Sure. Just as everyone.
But when you beg for attention, you get it when you want it and when you don't.
And why do you deserve to pry?
WSS
And why do you deserve to pry?
WSS
I don't deserve to pry. Never said it did. Actually read the post and don't apply preconceived opinions to it.
Can't beg for media attention, then get mad when you get it.
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I don't give up on him as quickly as most of you guys do. Give him a real line that allows more than 2 seconds and better play calling/design that takes advantage of what he can do rather than stuffing him in a system and you may see the real reason he holds a lot of major SEC records. You only saw a shadow of the real Johnny Football. He's a competitive person and when rehab is done he will show the kind of dedication you all expected rather than a guy trying to live up to a name he never asked for. He has the right QB coach and the right OC to give him the best shot at being a real NFL player. I'm banking on the fact he has always taken up the challenge in the past and done the things he needed to do AFTER he won the Heisman to make himself a better player. That now includes putting himself through a very humbling rehab. process that has put him up to ridicule here and elsewhere.
I don't give up on him as quickly as most of you guys do. Give him a real line that allows more than 2 seconds and better play calling/design that takes advantage of what he can do rather than stuffing him in a system and you may see the real reason he holds a lot of major SEC records. You only saw a shadow of the real Johnny Football. He's a competitive person and when rehab is done he will show the kind of dedication you all expected rather than a guy trying to live up to a name he never asked for. He has the right QB coach and the right OC to give him the best shot at being a real NFL player. I'm banking on the fact he has always taken up the challenge in the past and done the things he needed to do AFTER he won the Heisman to make himself a better player. That now includes putting himself through a very humbling rehab. process that has put him up to ridicule here and elsewhere.
I'm with you 100%.
Manziel showed me guts & determination before, & showed it again by putting his ego & pride aside by entering rehab. I expect a "renewed & improved" Johnny Manziel to come out of rehab. He's backed himself into a corner, but he's the type kid who comes out fighting. Could I be wrong about Johnny?...Absolutely (and I'll be the 1st to admit that IF I am), but I don't think I am wrong about him & I'm rooting for the kid to succeed.
BTW, I don't yet own a Manziel jersey, but still DO have & wear a Manziel t-shirt I bought at last year's draft party. This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now (same as I have never & will never give up on the Browns).
Mike
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Who bought a manziel Jersey. Miktoxic, woody, zombo........,
I have a #2 jersey, but it says COUCH on the back. Boy was that stupid
I won't buy another jersey until someone deserves my money.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
This isn't my crazy speculation but it does have........ Mariota a brown???
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600
Maybe Brian, took a few too many shots to the head during his playing days.....but maybe not....
This isn't my crazy speculation but it does have........ Mariota a brown???
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600
Maybe Brian, took a few too many shots to the head during his playing days.....but maybe not....
A little pro-day pile on there by Baldinger???
But looking above the #12, only the Jets passing on MM in favor of Gurley looks odd.
And looking below the #12 through #18 only Beasley looked competitive to spending the 12 on MM...
B. ...I was born a middle class, goofball BROWNS FAN comedian child.
K. Yes, that's a prediction, and I'm not a quitter, and I don't bitch. Not very much, anyways......
K. Not in the football section anyway...
B. Certainly one of the more unique self-descriptions I've read...
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K. Not in the football section anyway...
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Well....that goes without question.
B. Certainly one of the more unique self-descriptions I've read...********************************************
Fact is stranger than true.....
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I don't give up on him as quickly as most of you guys do. Give him a real line that allows more than 2 seconds and better play calling/design that takes advantage of what he can do rather than stuffing him in a system and you may see the real reason he holds a lot of major SEC records. You only saw a shadow of the real Johnny Football. He's a competitive person and when rehab is done he will show the kind of dedication you all expected rather than a guy trying to live up to a name he never asked for. He has the right QB coach and the right OC to give him the best shot at being a real NFL player. I'm banking on the fact he has always taken up the challenge in the past and done the things he needed to do AFTER he won the Heisman to make himself a better player. That now includes putting himself through a very humbling rehab. process that has put him up to ridicule here and elsewhere.
I'm with you 100%.
Manziel showed me guts & determination before, & showed it again by putting his ego & pride aside by entering rehab. I expect a "renewed & improved" Johnny Manziel to come out of rehab. He's backed himself into a corner, but he's the type kid who comes out fighting. Could I be wrong about Johnny?...Absolutely (and I'll be the 1st to admit that IF I am), but I don't think I am wrong about him & I'm rooting for the kid to succeed.
BTW, I don't yet own a Manziel jersey, but still DO have & wear a Manziel t-shirt I bought at last year's draft party. This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now (same as I have never & will never give up on the Browns).
Mike
BTW, I don't yet own a Manziel jersey, but still DO have & wear a Manziel t-shirt I bought at last year's draft party. This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now (same as I have never & will never give up on the Browns).
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?
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BTW, I don't yet own a Manziel jersey, but still DO have & wear a Manziel t-shirt I bought at last year's draft party. This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now (same as I have never & will never give up on the Browns).
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?
Neither. I may be old, but I am NOT YET senile.
.I won't buy a jersey until I know the player will be here awhile & plays "like a Brown".....aka #73 (which I own). When the new uniforms come out, I'll also buy another number. I'm torn between #75 or #23.
Mike
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I have a #2 jersey, but it says COUCH on the back. Boy was that stupid
I won't buy another jersey until someone deserves my money.
go with a classic - a player who is worthy of the rep
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Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?
Neither. I may be old, but I am NOT YET senile.
.I won't buy a jersey until I know the player will be here awhile & plays "like a Brown".....aka #73 (which I own). When the new uniforms come out, I'll also buy another number. I'm torn between #75 or #23.
Mike
Neither. I may be old, but I am NOT YET senile.
.I won't buy a jersey until I know the player will be here awhile & plays "like a Brown".....aka #73 (which I own). When the new uniforms come out, I'll also buy another number. I'm torn between #75 or #23.
I guess it was not obvious enough that I was referring to your "not jump(ing) up on a chair"...
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BTW, I don't yet own a Manziel jersey, but still DO have & wear a Manziel t-shirt I bought at last year's draft party. This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now (same as I have never & will never give up on the Browns).
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?
"This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now"
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?
When you read it again Tour he sounds like he actually DID jump up on a chair. Or he is senile and forgot whatever it was he did. LOL! We need a chair jumping icon though cliff jumping would more likely win out here.
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You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to. KV
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A. You are BEING an ass.
B. I know it's stupid, but I'm a positive guy, I was born a middle class, goofball BROWNS FAN comedian child.
C. People make their own decisions. It isn't our fault you are frustrated - who isn't? You think bitching helps?
D. Nobody is getting "screwed over". You think the Browns are trying to piz you off? It is what it is, bad start, wrong fo,
wrong coaches. The Browns have fixed that, and last season was their first. It isn't like they draft in the top three picks.
E. I read them for fun, that's why I've been around here for such a long time. Laughing is good.
F. So, you're whining that the Browns should make stupid, expensive moves in FA, just so you can not bitch so much? really?
G. I admire Farmer, and Pettine - and I'm delighted that Flip replaced Shanny. We're good to go now.
H. Oh, you don't like our upbeatness? Gee..."You dont have to click on the threads or even read them"
I. as in, I don't have to have the Browns go to the playoffs or superbowl, to be a fan. Most of us are that way.
J. You might think you're a "peep", but the rest of us will crow when the Browns get it together this coming season,
and really start having a season better than 7 wins.
K. Yes, that's a prediction, and I'm not a quitter, and I don't bitch. Not very much, anyways......
You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to. KV
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A. You are BEING an ass.
B. I know it's stupid, but I'm a positive guy, I was born a middle class, goofball BROWNS FAN comedian child.
C. People make their own decisions. It isn't our fault you are frustrated - who isn't? You think bitching helps?
D. Nobody is getting "screwed over". You think the Browns are trying to piz you off? It is what it is, bad start, wrong fo,
wrong coaches. The Browns have fixed that, and last season was their first. It isn't like they draft in the top three picks.
E. I read them for fun, that's why I've been around here for such a long time. Laughing is good.
F. So, you're whining that the Browns should make stupid, expensive moves in FA, just so you can not bitch so much? really?
G. I admire Farmer, and Pettine - and I'm delighted that Flip replaced Shanny. We're good to go now.
H. Oh, you don't like our upbeatness? Gee..."You dont have to click on the threads or even read them"
I. as in, I don't have to have the Browns go to the playoffs or superbowl, to be a fan. Most of us are that way.
J. You might think you're a "peep", but the rest of us will crow when the Browns get it together this coming season,
and really start having a season better than 7 wins.
K. Yes, that's a prediction, and I'm not a quitter, and I don't bitch. Not very much, anyways......
Nice overreaction!!!
Touched a nerve?
Your whole post is a complete manic attempt at a point.
So your team doesnt have to win to be a fan? Wtf kinda fan is that?? But you say that your frustrated..( who isn't) make up your mind.
Peeps and crows? Easter reference?
You read them for fun...then bitch about them?
Pick a side and stick to it.
If you keep doing the same thing expecting a different result...
I for one dont like mediocrity but hey to each his own, and i get frustrated. My post said nothing about signing a bunch of free agents. Read it again, i said that the bitching will continue till something happens in FA to divert there attention.
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"This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now"
Didn't out of self-restraint or couldn't?
When you read it again Tour he sounds like he actually DID jump up on a chair. Or he is senile and forgot whatever it was he did. LOL! We need a chair jumping icon though cliff jumping would more likely win out here.
"This 68 year old didn't jump up on a chair cheering his being drafted to give up on him now"
When you read it again Tour he sounds like he actually DID jump up on a chair. Or he is senile and forgot whatever it was he did. LOL! We need a chair jumping icon though cliff jumping would more likely win out here.
You Are correct...I DID jump up on a chair!!! You'll find few with my energy at my age, but NO cliff jumping!
I thought Tour was referring to my not buying a jersey.
Mike
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You Are correct...I DID jump up on a chair!!! Canton Mike
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Granddaughter's Barbie chair....
it's about 3 " high........
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No, sorry, I just meant that the rock star or movie star would think
it was a joke, and never took it seriously.
Not talking about a legit relapse.
example:
- www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/993143 CachedLindsay Lohan is adamant that ... lack thereof β and why she thinks rehab is a joke. ... The first few times I was court-ordered to rehab, it was like a joke, ...
- Lindsay Lohan says she's not a big drinker, ... Lindsay Lohan: Rehab is a Joke, ... "I donβtthink I need to be on lockdown for three months.
No, sorry, I just meant that the rock star or movie star would think
it was a joke, and never took it seriously.
Not talking about a legit relapse.
example:
- www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/993143 CachedLindsay Lohan is adamant that ... lack thereof β and why she thinks rehab is a joke. ... The first few times I was court-ordered to rehab, it was like a joke, ...
- Lindsay Lohan says she's not a big drinker, ... Lindsay Lohan: Rehab is a Joke, ... "I donβtthink I need to be on lockdown for three months.
If you think rehab is a joke, you usually wind up DEAD.
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I agree Hoorta.
I wonder how much of Manziels problem is a drinking problem and how much is simply a narcissistic trait in Johnny? My hope is the drinking is less of a problem. Lot's of people drink to excess but don't have the desire to be the center of attention. Possibly part of his being sequestered is to stay out of the medias sight?
The kid has had a high degree of fame at a very young age. That can go to a persons head pretty quickly. Especially when you add in large amounts of money. You see this with a lot of young entertainers. Maybe part of this is to help Johnny understand that he doesn't always have to be the life of the party.
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