Really Different Take on Our First Round...
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I like Hundley and would love to see him rocking the brown and orange, but Im still not sure the Browns are willing to spend first round picks on a QB in consecutive years. It is smoke screen season but I believed Pettine when he said they were focusing on building an elite defense.
WR at 12? No thanks.
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Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.
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So, Tour2ma, would that draft bring joy to your heart?
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i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.
i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.
Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?
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i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.
Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?
Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?
a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?
how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!
oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.
yeah i thought so.........
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For those closely following this year's draft, who's higher up on most draft boards, Kevin White or Amari Cooper? I honestly feel one of those two will fall to us in the draft, in which case, I'd draft a WR.
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Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?
a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?
how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!
oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.
yeah i thought so.........
a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?
how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!
oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.
yeah i thought so.........
I don't know who "my Manziel" is. Prior to the moment he was drafted, I was against us taking him. However, once he became a Brown, I began to cheer for him...because I'm not a butthurt whiny bitch like a lot of people around here. I root for Cleveland Browns, I don't hold personal vendettas because I wanted someone else. If you notice, I don't say shit about Bortles anymore...because he's in Jacksonville, not Cleveland.
All your argument is proving is what I've been saying since my first post 5 years ago...no single person can turn a 4-12 team into a 12-4 team.
The "real value" in the draft is eliminating weak links - getting exponentially better at a position group you were previously weak at. We could anchor our line with 5 first round future HOFers and it wouldn't matter if the rest of our team was shit, just as we can throw a world-beating college QB behind a garbage line and they wouldn't acheive shit.
Joe Thomas physically can't do any better than what he's been...and that's gotten us nowhere. Until we raise the talent level at QB, DT, ILB, and TE, we'll be a shit team. Those are more important positions to us at this current moment than "wasting" a first round pick on an offensive lineman.
Joe Thomas is my idol, so I was giving you Ghoolie-level shit.
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Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.
Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.
Quoted for truth. The guy can not catch. We have more than enough speed on this team. We need a reliable Marvin Harrison-type receiver on this team.
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Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.
They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.
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Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.
They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.
Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.
They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.
giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.
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Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.
They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.
giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.
giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.
That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.
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That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.
no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).
oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.
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That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.
no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).
oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.
no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).
oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.
I was on about the Giants lol !
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I think it's more probable Cooper is there at 12 than Shelton.
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I'm fine with one of the top 3 receivers (NOT Perriman) in the first round for us.
The notion that Hundley is better than Winston is laughable.
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2 issues:: 1. We know Farmer's thoughts on drafting a WR that high when theirs good WR Talent though out the Draft.. 2. We have added 3-4 picks to next years draft and Farmer and Haslem both want Cardell Jones to stay home.. IMO If that's their plan at QB why draft any this year. I still see NT,OLB,OL,TE or FB/HB than WR..
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Farmer has stated multiple times how he's going to draft.
This guy ignores Farmer's comments.
So, I ignore him.
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My dream scenario is
12. NT Danny Shelton
19. TE Maxx Williams
43. ILB Denzel Perryman
77. OLB Nate Orchard
111. WR Tre McBride
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So, Tour2ma, would that draft bring joy to your heart?
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So, Tour2ma, would that draft bring joy to your heart?
Probably not... As with any of the mocks/ sims posted, it's the players available, but not taken that determine my heart's joy level.
For those closely following this year's draft, who's higher up on most draft boards, Kevin White or Amari Cooper? I honestly feel one of those two will fall to us in the draft, in which case, I'd draft a WR.
White and Cooper are very, very close in the aggregate mocks flying around. Right now White is slightly higher with a 6.3 ranking while Cooper's is 6.9.
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