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  • Mudfly MudflyM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    Oh....and Tour Im sure you can appreciate this.....I was anticipating Hundley would move up into the first round, so bought him a week ago figuring he'd start climbing......had an FRX around 38-40 then......so, I buy, and immediately he free falls to 49.....ouch!

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      L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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      BPA at 12 then Perryman at 19 yes please. Hundley cannot recognise pressure and has no play clock in his head, would be a huge reach to take him that high.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        WR Perriman was not taken until the 2rd round of our current mock draft. Hundley has not yet been selected.

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          Browns_Fucking_RuleB Browns_Fucking_Rule wrote on last edited by
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          i think this year we will address the front 7 with both our first round pics... and why not? most of the other 17 teams (ahead of us) will be focused on offense and cb. From what I have been seeing in mocks is that there will be incredible value pass rushers available to be had when we go on the clock both times.

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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.

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              Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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              We won't do that. I hope.

              DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                I like Hundley and would love to see him rocking the brown and orange, but Im still not sure the Browns are willing to spend first round picks on a QB in consecutive years. It is smoke screen season but I believed Pettine when he said they were focusing on building an elite defense.

                WR at 12? No thanks.

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                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                  Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.

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                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                    So, Tour2ma, would that draft bring joy to your heart?

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                      i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.

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                      Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                      @miktoxic said:

                      i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.

                      Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?

                      I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                        @miktoxic said:

                        i don't know about that. besides the 2 QBs i think most teams have learned that the real value in the draft is getting a 10 year starter on either line. wrs, rbs come and go but a wilfork or a michael dean perry? a joe thomas and a kevin mack? you better jump when those guys are there.

                        Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                        Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?

                        a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?

                        how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!

                        oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.

                        yeah i thought so.........

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                          S secondwave wrote on last edited by
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                          For those closely following this year's draft, who's higher up on most draft boards, Kevin White or Amari Cooper? I honestly feel one of those two will fall to us in the draft, in which case, I'd draft a WR.

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                            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                            Joe Thomas has done a lot for us, hasn't he?

                            a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?

                            how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!

                            oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.

                            yeah i thought so.........

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                            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                            @miktoxic said:

                            a lot more than any other player being drafted since then. isn't a LT the cornerstone of an offense?

                            how's your manziel doing? did watkins put the bills over the top? keep it coming. you want to show stats? then let's do stats!

                            oh, i know, you're in love with mariota this year. just like you were with bortles last year. ask him if he'd want a thomas and a mack on his line.

                            yeah i thought so.........

                            I don't know who "my Manziel" is. Prior to the moment he was drafted, I was against us taking him. However, once he became a Brown, I began to cheer for him...because I'm not a butthurt whiny bitch like a lot of people around here. I root for Cleveland Browns, I don't hold personal vendettas because I wanted someone else. If you notice, I don't say shit about Bortles anymore...because he's in Jacksonville, not Cleveland.

                            All your argument is proving is what I've been saying since my first post 5 years ago...no single person can turn a 4-12 team into a 12-4 team.

                            The "real value" in the draft is eliminating weak links - getting exponentially better at a position group you were previously weak at. We could anchor our line with 5 first round future HOFers and it wouldn't matter if the rest of our team was shit, just as we can throw a world-beating college QB behind a garbage line and they wouldn't acheive shit.

                            Joe Thomas physically can't do any better than what he's been...and that's gotten us nowhere. Until we raise the talent level at QB, DT, ILB, and TE, we'll be a shit team. Those are more important positions to us at this current moment than "wasting" a first round pick on an offensive lineman.

                            Joe Thomas is my idol, so I was giving you Ghoolie-level shit.

                            I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                              Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.

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                              @jrb12711 said:

                              Please God no to Perriman-nothing but a combine warrior who is rising because he ran really fast. The tape shows a guy who has a hard time catching the ball and doesn't run good routes. This guy is the next Greg Little, Heyward-Bay waiting to happen.

                              Quoted for truth. The guy can not catch. We have more than enough speed on this team. We need a reliable Marvin Harrison-type receiver on this team.

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                                L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.

                                They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.

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                                  Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.

                                  They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.

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                                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                  @londonbrown said:

                                  Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.

                                  They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.

                                  giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.

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                                    Cooper is the safest receiver in the draft, good route runner and hands. Don't think he gets past Giants, Rams then Vikings though. One of those will take him, probably NYG.

                                    They know Odell next year is going to be gameplanned for so need to give teams other things to worry about to free him up somewhat.

                                    giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.

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                                    @miktoxic said:

                                    giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.

                                    That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.

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                                      D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                      I've seen all of Hundley's games, every one. I like the kid, but if we take him before round 3, I'll be pissed beyond belief.

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                                        @miktoxic said:

                                        giants need to rebuild their OL and DL/LB. no way they draft a WR. no way.

                                        That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.

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                                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                        @londonbrown said:

                                        That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.

                                        no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).

                                        oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.

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                                          That's probably more likely but Cooper tough to pass on for that 1-2. Spent a few high picks on OL last few years and paid Schwartz.

                                          no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).

                                          oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.

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                                          L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                          @miktoxic said:

                                          no one's saying to NOT draft a wr or qb it's about value and depth of the draft. clearly the value on defense is the DL and DE/OLB positions and the best are clumped together in the first round. pass on a 5 star blue-chip DL for a WR? i don't see farmer (with pettine in his ear) passing on a piece that just might finish off the defense for years to come. (schwartz wasn't farmer's pick).

                                          oh and we just signed bowe so there's that........lol.

                                          I was on about the Giants lol !

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