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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    Interesting stuff, regarding Dr. Ben Carson possibly running for president.

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    When you exclude those who said maybe and those who refused to respond or did not know him, 54% of the African Americans polled said YES!

    I was astounded when I saw this number.

    I was also excited.

    But, my excitement is tempered by three things.

    First, the respondents only said that they would consider voting for Ben Carson.

    Second, these results are before any attacks on Ben Carson by the left.

    Third, before being reminded of who Ben Carson is and where he stands on the issues only 38% of these same voters said they would consider voting for Ben Carson.

    Don’t get me wrong, winning 38% of the vote would be fantastic!

    If 38% of African Americans vote for Ben Carson he would win every single swing state and a number of states previously considered to be solid Democrat states.

    Winning 38% of the African American vote would mean a landslide victory for Ben Carson.

    But again, these folks only said that they would consider voting for Ben Carson, not that theywould vote for Ben Carson.

    Interestingly, that 38% vote almost matches other poll results showing that 35% of African Americans identify themselves as conservatives.

    Now, let me share the results of the survey of Hispanic Americans.

    These results are equally encouraging.

    Prior to explaining who Ben Carson is and where he stands on the issues, 52% of Hispanics said they would consider voting for Ben Carson.

    After hearing his life story and being told about his conservative stands, including securing the border, 61% of Hispanics said they would consider voting for Ben Carson for president.

    Again, these results took my breath away.

    But again, these Hispanics are only saying they will consider voting for Ben Carson.

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      From what I have read in the past he sounds like a worthy candidate, but I plead ignorance on knowing where he stands on most major issues.

      "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee
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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        No thanks to Carson. Not unless I see his complete background check, and how he feels on important issues.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          No thanks to Carson. Not unless I see his complete background check, and how he feels on important issues.

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          No thanks to Carson. Not unless I see his complete background check, and how he feels on important issues.

          His take on guns will get him smoked in the primaries.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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            yeah, when he mentioned he'd rather not have semi autos owned by people in urban areas...

            if he thought they would fall into the hands of criminals... my phrasing of what he said,

            to me, that has to have some explanation.

            Offhand, I think he was trying to make a logical point. If I knew joe schmoe's semi auto

            was going to be stolen next year, I'd rather joe schmoe not have that gun that was going to get stolen.

            Which is nonsense, because you don't know the future. I admire him, but once in a while he

            speaks from the hip and misses his point he's trying to make.

            We'll see.

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              StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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              He's different for sure, he's soft spoken...not sure if that is good or bad.

              Some predict that his comments on gaydom will come back to haunt him.

              http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/ben-carson-prisons-gay-choice/

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                Yeah, that point is very much an example, Stuart. What he said was honest,

                and warps the point he was trying to make.

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                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                  People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.

                  People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns.

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                    I was just reading up on this guy.

                    He says he doesn't believe in evolution, but then he says this,

                    β€œI believe it is a very good idea for physicians, scientists, engineers, and others trained to make decisions based on facts and empirical data to get involved in the political arena”.

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.



                      People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149


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                      The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of


                      wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut


                      apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...



                      Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for


                      most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎


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                        People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.



                        People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149


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                        The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of


                        wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut


                        apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...



                        Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for


                        most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎


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                        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.

                        People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149

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                        The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of

                        wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut

                        apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...

                        Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for

                        most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎

                        That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm

                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149

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                          It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...

                          a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.

                          It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.

                          The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush

                          right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.

                          Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.

                          In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.

                          In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves

                          in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.

                          And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.

                          Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take

                          it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                              What kind of pistol,Cal? I can point you in the right direction.

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                                So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

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                                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

                                if thats the case, he has NO chance of winning.

                                Why run and waste all that money for nothing?

                                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

                                  if thats the case, he has NO chance of winning.

                                  Why run and waste all that money for nothing?

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  @browns149 said:

                                  if thats the case, he has NO chance of winning.

                                  Why run and waste all that money for nothing?

                                  I hope he wouldn't win, but I am not sure I have that much faith in our fellow citizens

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    What kind of pistol,Cal? I can point you in the right direction. Logic

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                                    American made SCCY CTX-1. Not a widespread name at all. That's the trouble.

                                    I use the extension on the clip to better fit my hand. It's a tad small on the grip, but it's

                                    very easy to conceal.

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                                      That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149

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                                      It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...

                                      a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.

                                      It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.

                                      The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush

                                      right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.

                                      Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.

                                      In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.

                                      In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves

                                      in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.

                                      And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.

                                      Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take

                                      it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.

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                                      mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149

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                                      It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...

                                      a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.

                                      It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.

                                      The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush

                                      right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.

                                      Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.

                                      In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.

                                      In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves

                                      in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.

                                      And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.

                                      Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take

                                      it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.

                                      A lot of guides in bear country carry pump shotguns with slugs. If an Alaskan Guide will use a 12 guage pump with Brenneke slugs then I'd say it's safe "bear medicine".

                                      And holy shit, someone actually said 21 foot rule!! πŸ˜†πŸ™„

                                      Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                                        mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                                        LogicIsForSquares, on 03 Apr 2015 - 2:18 PM, said:

                                        His take on guns will get him smoked in the primaries.

                                        calfoxwc, on 03 Apr 2015 - 7:11 PM, said:yeah, when he mentioned he'd rather not have semi autos owned by people in urban areas..

                                        At various points Bloomberg and Rudy Guilliani have said the close to the same thing. Perhaps for different reasons than Dr. Carson.

                                        Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                                          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                          There are plenty of different ammo choices for a shotgun. Just type "EXOTIC SHOTGUN AMMO" into youtube and they have some crazy stuff out there.

                                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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