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  • Browns149 Browns149B Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    I was just reading up on this guy.

    He says he doesn't believe in evolution, but then he says this,

    β€œI believe it is a very good idea for physicians, scientists, engineers, and others trained to make decisions based on facts and empirical data to get involved in the political arena”.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.



      People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149


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      The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of


      wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut


      apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...



      Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for


      most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎


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        People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.



        People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149


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        The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of


        wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut


        apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...



        Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for


        most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎


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        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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        @calfoxwc said:

        People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.

        People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149

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        The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of

        wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut

        apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...

        Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for

        most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎

        That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm

        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149

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          It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...

          a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.

          It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.

          The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush

          right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.

          Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.

          In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.

          In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves

          in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.

          And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.

          Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take

          it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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              What kind of pistol,Cal? I can point you in the right direction.

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              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

                if thats the case, he has NO chance of winning.

                Why run and waste all that money for nothing?

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

                  if thats the case, he has NO chance of winning.

                  Why run and waste all that money for nothing?

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @browns149 said:

                  if thats the case, he has NO chance of winning.

                  Why run and waste all that money for nothing?

                  I hope he wouldn't win, but I am not sure I have that much faith in our fellow citizens

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    What kind of pistol,Cal? I can point you in the right direction. Logic

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                    American made SCCY CTX-1. Not a widespread name at all. That's the trouble.

                    I use the extension on the clip to better fit my hand. It's a tad small on the grip, but it's

                    very easy to conceal.

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                      That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149

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                      It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...

                      a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.

                      It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.

                      The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush

                      right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.

                      Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.

                      In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.

                      In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves

                      in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.

                      And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.

                      Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take

                      it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.

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                      mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149

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                      It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...

                      a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.

                      It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.

                      The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush

                      right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.

                      Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.

                      In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.

                      In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves

                      in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.

                      And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.

                      Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take

                      it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.

                      A lot of guides in bear country carry pump shotguns with slugs. If an Alaskan Guide will use a 12 guage pump with Brenneke slugs then I'd say it's safe "bear medicine".

                      And holy shit, someone actually said 21 foot rule!! πŸ˜†πŸ™„

                      Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                        mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                        LogicIsForSquares, on 03 Apr 2015 - 2:18 PM, said:

                        His take on guns will get him smoked in the primaries.

                        calfoxwc, on 03 Apr 2015 - 7:11 PM, said:yeah, when he mentioned he'd rather not have semi autos owned by people in urban areas..

                        At various points Bloomberg and Rudy Guilliani have said the close to the same thing. Perhaps for different reasons than Dr. Carson.

                        Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                          There are plenty of different ammo choices for a shotgun. Just type "EXOTIC SHOTGUN AMMO" into youtube and they have some crazy stuff out there.

                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            I thought of slugs, but if the shotgun is a pumpaction, it takes a few seconds longer

                            to get off fewer shots.

                            eh....with a pistol you can get off shots faster.

                            A lot more .45 slugs with a semi auto than a shotgun.

                            though ,I don't plan on ever meeting up with a grizzly, but I want

                            to take a trip to Yellowstone NP.....

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                              I found a bushmaster superlite ar 5.56 at rural king for $477. Nice.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                I personally would say whatever you feel most comfortable with. A shotgun for home defense is #1 in my book. The sound alone of racking a shotgun is enough to persuade someone from being stupid.

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                                  Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                  .577 Tyrannosaur anyone?

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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    http://texaswildhogremoval.com/wild-hog-attacks.html

                                    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/30/wild-boar-killed-after-attacking-and-injuring-4-people-in-german/

                                    And, warning, don't watch this one with coffee or lunch over your keyboard. Pretty frightening to watch:

                                    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82129905/

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                                      People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.



                                      People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149


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                                      The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of


                                      wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut


                                      apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...



                                      Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for


                                      most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎


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                                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for

                                      most of their life...like woody and chris.... 😎

                                      Wait, why did I get dragged in to this?! One square mile. Sure. Unlike most Americans who are veritable world-travellers.

                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?

                                      Credibility...down.

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                                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                        Sorry, Chris, I was just making myself laugh on that one.

                                        And Cysko - I was reading how somewhere they were buying back

                                        "assualt weapons", and the comments were mostly about guys who

                                        said they'd go out and buy the cheapest carbines etc, to sell them for

                                        $2000 bucks apiece, and then they'd go out and get themselves a

                                        nice, expensive AR-15. That just struck me as hilarious.

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                                          I thought of slugs, but if the shotgun is a pumpaction, it takes a few seconds longer

                                          to get off fewer shots.

                                          eh....with a pistol you can get off shots faster.

                                          A lot more .45 slugs with a semi auto than a shotgun.

                                          though ,I don't plan on ever meeting up with a grizzly, but I want

                                          to take a trip to Yellowstone NP.....

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                                          mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          I thought of slugs, but if the shotgun is a pumpaction, it takes a few seconds longer

                                          to get off fewer shots.

                                          eh....with a pistol you can get off shots faster.

                                          A lot more .45 slugs with a semi auto than a shotgun.

                                          though ,I don't plan on ever meeting up with a grizzly, but I want

                                          to take a trip to Yellowstone NP.....

                                          This sounds like internet or gun store info

                                          1. I have shot revolvers a lot. I can still operate a pump shotgun as fast or faster than a revolver.

                                          2. In something that can take a big bear or big anything down, you are much more likely to get on target faster after your first shot with a pump shotgun/slug than with a handgun loaded for anything capable of taking a big bear. It takes a lot of practice to have a quick follow up shot with a heavy loaded 44 mag or a 454 casull or whatever handgun load.

                                          Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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