America ready to get the Great Ship America back to where she should be
-
That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149
************************************************
It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...
a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.
It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.
The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush
right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.
Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.
In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.
In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves
in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.
And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.
Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take
it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.
That's were rifles and shotguns come into it. Would you rather hunt with a 12 gauge shotgun, 30-06 rifle or a 9mm pistol in the backwoods or on a farm. Browns149
************************************************
It depends. If you are hiking over rough terrain in bear country... a .45 pistol...
a shotgun would make a big bear or hog angry. If the rifle is no problem to carry, then I'd go with the 30-06.
It's the freedom to choose, own, and carry that is my point. Semi-auto is more to my liking.
The 21 foot rule. Say, a bear or hog or crazedonbathsaltshippiewithamachete comes out from a bush
right at you from 28 feet away. They say it takes only about 1.x seconds for a human being to get to you from 21 feet.
Bear and hog can burst a lot faster. Say you have 3 seconds at 30 feet. You're hiking in Yellowstone, on your farm, whatever.
In that 3 seconds, you don't want to have just a shotgun or bolt action rifle. Semi-auto is what you will want to have.
In three seconds? If I already carry one in the chamber with semi auto, I could probably get two shots off. Three wolves
in Canada or Alaska ? I want more than six shots with a revolver. they say a lot of shots to the head of a hog bounce off.
And grizzlies, I suppose you need to aim right to drop one fast enough.
Which reminds me, I still want to get night sights on my pistol, except they are pinned in, and I have to take
it to the gunsmith.... if I can find the right sights to put on it.
A lot of guides in bear country carry pump shotguns with slugs. If an Alaskan Guide will use a 12 guage pump with Brenneke slugs then I'd say it's safe "bear medicine".
And holy shit, someone actually said 21 foot rule!!
-
LogicIsForSquares, on 03 Apr 2015 - 2:18 PM, said:
His take on guns will get him smoked in the primaries.
calfoxwc, on 03 Apr 2015 - 7:11 PM, said:yeah, when he mentioned he'd rather not have semi autos owned by people in urban areas..
At various points Bloomberg and Rudy Guilliani have said the close to the same thing. Perhaps for different reasons than Dr. Carson.
-
There are plenty of different ammo choices for a shotgun. Just type "EXOTIC SHOTGUN AMMO" into youtube and they have some crazy stuff out there.
-
I thought of slugs, but if the shotgun is a pumpaction, it takes a few seconds longer
to get off fewer shots.
eh....with a pistol you can get off shots faster.
A lot more .45 slugs with a semi auto than a shotgun.
though ,I don't plan on ever meeting up with a grizzly, but I want
to take a trip to Yellowstone NP.....
-
I found a bushmaster superlite ar 5.56 at rural king for $477. Nice.
-
I personally would say whatever you feel most comfortable with. A shotgun for home defense is #1 in my book. The sound alone of racking a shotgun is enough to persuade someone from being stupid.
-
.577 Tyrannosaur anyone?
-
http://texaswildhogremoval.com/wild-hog-attacks.html
And, warning, don't watch this one with coffee or lunch over your keyboard. Pretty frightening to watch:
-
People in urban areas are the ones that NEED the semi-automatic guns.
People out in the country are the ones that don't need semi-automatic guns. Browns149
******************************************************
The last part isn't true. Try living in back country Arkansas, one example, with a wild population of
wild boar. Going on vacation to Yellowstone.... being threatened with being shot on your own farm by some nut
apparently on something, because you don't allow hunting...(unless it's me...) in your woods...
Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for
most of their life...like woody and chris....
Single shots don't make it. Not very many people live restricted to a one sq mile area for
most of their life...like woody and chris....
Wait, why did I get dragged in to this?! One square mile. Sure. Unlike most Americans who are veritable world-travellers.
So this guy believes the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it was made by god in 6 days?
Credibility...down.
-
Sorry, Chris, I was just making myself laugh on that one.
And Cysko - I was reading how somewhere they were buying back
"assualt weapons", and the comments were mostly about guys who
said they'd go out and buy the cheapest carbines etc, to sell them for
$2000 bucks apiece, and then they'd go out and get themselves a
nice, expensive AR-15. That just struck me as hilarious.
-
I thought of slugs, but if the shotgun is a pumpaction, it takes a few seconds longer
to get off fewer shots.
eh....with a pistol you can get off shots faster.
A lot more .45 slugs with a semi auto than a shotgun.
though ,I don't plan on ever meeting up with a grizzly, but I want
to take a trip to Yellowstone NP.....
I thought of slugs, but if the shotgun is a pumpaction, it takes a few seconds longer
to get off fewer shots.
eh....with a pistol you can get off shots faster.
A lot more .45 slugs with a semi auto than a shotgun.
though ,I don't plan on ever meeting up with a grizzly, but I want
to take a trip to Yellowstone NP.....
This sounds like internet or gun store info
1. I have shot revolvers a lot. I can still operate a pump shotgun as fast or faster than a revolver.
2. In something that can take a big bear or big anything down, you are much more likely to get on target faster after your first shot with a pump shotgun/slug than with a handgun loaded for anything capable of taking a big bear. It takes a lot of practice to have a quick follow up shot with a heavy loaded 44 mag or a 454 casull or whatever handgun load.
-
Okay, I can buy that. My Dad's old Browning semi auto is lightning fast for me,
but that's two shells.
Interesting.
-
Holy shit, I just saw Cal posted an Ebaumsworld link. I didn't even know that was still around.
-
Holy shit, I just saw Cal posted an Ebaumsworld link. I didn't even know that was still around.
Holy shit, I just saw Cal posted an Ebaumsworld link. I didn't even know that was still around.
that's a redirect from Michigan.edu
-
Holy shit, I just saw Cal posted an Ebaumsworld link. I didn't even know that was still around. Woody
***************************************************
You don't want to watch that one, Woody - it's too frightening.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login