Browns 2015 Dream Draft
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Going NT/OL in the first round doesn't feel right to me - your draft doesn't really deal with our lack of outside pass rushers, something I think will be addressed early in the draft.
Going NT/OL in the first round doesn't feel right to me - your draft doesn't really deal with our lack of outside pass rushers, something I think will be addressed early in the draft.
NT is probably a high probability in the first round. I agree that OL is a luxury given our current roster and the depth of this draft. You are right that OLB needs to be addressed early, so if not in the first round, it's a second round must!
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So, if it's a dream draft, then my dream includes JFF or McCown playing well......here goes nothing....
1-A - Vic Beasley - OLB (opt 2 Alvin Dupree-DE/OLB)
1-B - Danny Shelton - DL (opt 2 Malcolm Brown-DL)
2 - Cameron Erving - OL (opt 2 Breshard Perriman-WR)
3 - Sammy Coates - WR (opt 2 Denzel Perriman-OLB)
4-A - Cody Prewitt - FS/SS (opt 2 Arie Kouandijo-OG)
4-B - Jeff Heuerman - TE (opt 2 Justin Hardy-WR)
5 - Gerod Holliman - SS (opt 2 Chris Conley-WR)
6-A - Justin Manton - K (opt 2 Tyler Varga-FB)
6-B - Jordan Richards - SS (opt 2 Tony Lippett-wr)
7 - BPA
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That is what is tough about mocks. Mud,
I'm not big on Prewitt much, but Holliman - wasted pick, I wouldn't
even sign him as an UFA.
That's how I ended up picking Harris in the third round - a very weak draft for safeties, but I
really like Harris., and I think he's gone somewhere in the late third round and is the last
of the safeties I'd draft, so...I had to grab him early.
I like both of your second round options, but I figured they would both be gone, realistically.
And Sammie Coates would be a great fit, I don't know how soft his hands are... but my mock
kept going one way and then another, and usually I couldn't fit Sammie in until he was already
supposed to be gone - which I think is by the end of round 2.
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That is what is tough about mocks. Mud,
I'm not big on Prewitt much, but Holliman - wasted pick, I wouldn't
even sign him as an UFA.
That's how I ended up picking Harris in the third round - a very weak draft for safeties, but I
really like Harris., and I think he's gone somewhere in the late third round and is the last
of the safeties I'd draft, so...I had to grab him early.
I like both of your second round options, but I figured they would both be gone, realistically.
And Sammie Coates would be a great fit, I don't know how soft his hands are... but my mock
kept going one way and then another, and usually I couldn't fit Sammie in until he was already
supposed to be gone - which I think is by the end of round 2.
That is what is tough about mocks. Mud,
I'm not big on Prewitt much, but Holliman - wasted pick, I wouldn't
even sign him as an UFA.
That's how I ended up picking Harris in the third round - a very weak draft for safeties, but I
really like Harris., and I think he's gone somewhere in the late third round and is the last
of the safeties I'd draft, so...I had to grab him early.
I like both of your second round options, but I figured they would both be gone, realistically.
And Sammie Coates would be a great fit, I don't know how soft his hands are... but my mock
kept going one way and then another, and usually I couldn't fit Sammie in until he was already
supposed to be gone - which I think is by the end of round 2.
Yeah...Im not that high on Holliman either....I just have this nervous twitch about getting some safeties this year.....
Gotta say...it's really hard to mock when no one else is taking players off the board.....dont know whos gonna be there or not, but def tried to keep it real on who might......
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About Collins - he is a solid upgrade at OG and ROT, with the ability
to flip to the LT postion if he needed to, he could step in at LOG and Bitonio
could move to LT if that is really an option.... Those guys don't grow on trees -
and the Browns need him insurance wise in case Joe Thomas GOD FOREBID,
gets malaria or something and has to sit out a while....
"they say" that Collins is one of the safest picks in the first round.
I really like Cameron Irving, but I would be surprised if he is still there
at the middle of round two. No way he gets to the third round, I think.
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http://nflspinzone.com/2015/04/06/cleveland-browns-seven-round-2015-nfl-mock-draft/2/
This draft has us going offense with all early picks
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It's hard to mock for the Browns because we have 10 picks and are likely not going to draft 10 players. There will be a trade somewhere and my guess is its for a QB...
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You mean.... offense...too -many- three and outs?
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I see a lot of defenseive picks. I guess I'm the only one that thinks 3 and outs on this team are a problem.
I see a lot of defenseive picks. I guess I'm the only one that thinks 3 and outs on this team are a problem.
It really boils down to the team & coaches philosophy....which is defense.....
And both Pettine and Farmer have publicly stated(recently) that they are focused on building a dominant defense and will approach this draft with that goal in mind.....
And the reality is that our run defense was clearly our achilles heel this past season. The O moved the ball really well and we were a top scoring scoring team...until our QB forgot how to play.......
So, yeah....3 and outs were an issue....but QB seems to be the reason.....and thats just 1 pick(if there is even one they like)....
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I see a lot of defenseive picks. I guess I'm the only one that thinks 3 and outs on this team are a problem.
It really boils down to the team & coaches philosophy....which is defense.....
And both Pettine and Farmer have publicly stated(recently) that they are focused on building a dominant defense and will approach this draft with that goal in mind.....
And the reality is that our run defense was clearly our achilles heel this past season. The O moved the ball really well and we were a top scoring scoring team...until our QB forgot how to play.......
So, yeah....3 and outs were an issue....but QB seems to be the reason.....and thats just 1 pick(if there is even one they like)....
It really boils down to the team & coaches philosophy....which is defense.....
And both Pettine and Farmer have publicly stated(recently) that they are focused on building a dominant defense and will approach this draft with that goal in mind.....
And the reality is that our run defense was clearly our achilles heel this past season. The O moved the ball really well and we were a top scoring scoring team...until our QB forgot how to play.......
So, yeah....3 and outs were an issue....but QB seems to be the reason.....and thats just 1 pick(if there is even one they like)....
QB play deteriorated after our run game deteriorated after our O-line couldn't cope with Mack's injury. The PAP which was working so well early in the season faltered, and teams challenged us to beat them in the air, which we couldn't. So, either new QB and/or more consistent run game.
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I kind of chalk that up to Mack getting hurt......which(I assume) will be corrected with his return and the development of some backup players like Bowe(for example).....and possibly, a middling pick for G/C......
But, in terms of this discussion and the draft "going offense".....dont see it.....not one bit......
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I agree - like you said, our O was doing what it needed to to win games until our run game ground to a halt. People still respected it for a few games after Mack's injury, but once we stopped going over 140 ypg, they zoned in on our QB, which didn't hold up.
Mack doesn't get injured, or we have competent backups that don't cause such a huge dropoff, and we're in much better shape.
Personally, I'm thinking, if it aligns with BPA, I'd look at going OLB and either NT/WR in the first round. Then look at picking up an extra 2 with our excess of picks, and get either NT/WR and OL in the second.
Just my 2c.
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Once more
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I was arguing with myself about my last mock above. Would the Browns draft one of the top
three wr's...say, Parker, then hope Shelton was there at 19? Or, might they nab Parker,
or one of those top 3 wrs.... and nab Collins, if they knew a NT they would reach for later?
Then another wr later, and all the rest defense?
But I finally decided that
A. The Browns signed some nice veteran free agents at wr.
B. They must stop the run, and I don't see a NT that would be
anywhere near a Shelton.
C. The Browns want a dominant defense.
D. I think the key in this division, is to dominate the los on both sides of the ball.
So, I really, really like the two wr sleepers I "drafted", although obviously they won't step in
NFL ready like Devante Parker. So, I went with Shelton and Collins. The other question was,
would Eli even be there? My second choice was Stephone Anthony instead of Harold at olb.
My favorite olb in this draft is Dupree, who will go in the top 15 or 20 picks. Beasely runs second to him, imhso.
I hope Dupree doesn't fall to the squealers, or I hope Canton Mike doesn't mind me needing a barf bag with me to hang
out at his man cave during the draft.....
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Personally, I'm thinking, if it aligns with BPA, I'd look at going OLB and either NT/WR in the first round. Then look at picking up an extra 2 with our excess of picks, and get either NT/WR and OL in the second. Chris
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I think that is a solid thought - The second round seems like a real solid quality of
players to nab. Wouldn't be surprised at all. We'll see.
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One thing I'm thinking about maybe is if it's Winston-Mariota 1-2, look at trading up to get Leonard Williams, as someone who could be a truly disruptive force and help in both run and pass D. Probably would cost too much though.
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How about Brandon Scherff
How about Brandon Scherff
Overrated... So athletic of an OT that everyone projects him as an OG at the next level.
I was arguing with myself about my last mock above. Would the Browns draft one of the top three wr's...say, Parker, then hope Shelton was there at 19? Or, might they nab Parker, or one of those top 3 wrs.... and nab Collins, if they knew a NT they would reach for later? Then another wr later, and all the rest defense? But I finally decided that
A. The Browns signed some nice veteran free agents at wr.
B. They must stop the run, and I don't see a NT that would be
anywhere near a Shelton.
C. The Browns want a dominant defense.
D. I think the key in this division, is to dominate the los on both sides of the ball.
So, I really, really like the two wr sleepers I "drafted", although obviously they won't step in
NFL ready like Devante Parker. So, I went with Shelton and Collins. The other question was,
would Eli even be there? My second choice was Stephone Anthony instead of Harold at olb.
My favorite olb in this draft is Dupree, who will go in the top 15 or 20 picks. Beasely runs second to him, imhso.
Love the analysis that gets you to Shelton at 12, but not the Collins pick. You're spending a high pick on a guy you end up moving inside in most of your scenarios. Better IMO to draft an inside guy in Rnd 2 or 3.
I like Dupree, but not at 12. Should he fall to 19, I'd gladly nab him, but if not...
Yesterday Todd McShay labeled ILB, Eric Kendricks as the "best cover LB in the draft". That's a premium talent in Pet's scheme and settled me on a plyer that I've liked for a while. I think he's a bit early at 19, so I'd look to trade down a little, but if I can't get a trade down into the mid-20's, then I take him. This allows Robertson or Kirksey to move back outside. I think Craig has 3-down potential outside, but can share time with Mingo until we see what he brings to 2016.
Anyway here's my "dream"...
1.12 - Shelton NT
1.19 - Trade to mid-20's gaining mid-20's second
1.mid-20 - Eric Kendricks, ILB, UCLA
2.11 - Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart - He'd push Greco hard for RG. Could push John all the way to starting RT.
2.mid-20 - Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor - My 2015, "ya gotta keep looking" shot... I like his chances.
3.13 - Reese Dismukes, C, Auburn - tape really reminded me of Mack, will need to get stronger at next level.
4.12 - Henry Anderson, DE - if there, I just can't pass on him. Too much value in this true, 3-4 DE.
4.16 - Jeff Heuerman, TE or Justin Hardy, WR, ECU - going "or" as I feel we're "set" at least at one position.
5.11 - Craig Mager CB/SS - hitter out of Texas State with good size, speed and agility
6.13 - Justin Manton, K, LA-Monroe - can't see standing pat at this position.
6.26 - Matt Jones, RB, Florida - I see him as a potential FB convert.
7.12 - BPA
Fire away...
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