Trading up to #2 for QB Risky
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I still don't think either Winston or Mariotta are #1 & #2 overall material.. And it looks like my Bucs ARE going to take Winston..
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i kinda look at this draft this way. we're not picking in the top ten BUT as soon as you walk down that ten pick avenue turn the corner from 12-19th streets, we own the block.
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12. La'el Collins
I'd rather get Shelton here and Collins at 19
19. Malcom BrownAlthough, I think Brown is excellent, and wouldn't gripe. Don't know if he is a 3-4 NT, though.
43. Devin SmithA great value pick but who knows how terrific he'll be in a pro offense.
77. Mario EdwardsThe DT? nah. More like a 5th round pick that might not make it in the pros.
111 Jeff HeuermanYou betcha
115. Max Garcia, CI kinda like this this pick. Not my favorite - kinda stump footed for the pros, special teams?
147 Benardrick McKinney, ILBMcKinney may very well go in the first round, or top of second. Invalid.
189 Nate Orchard, OLBOrchard may very well go in the late first round, or top half of second. Invalid.
202 Evan Spencer, WRI'd love for Spencer to fall this far, but I think he goes long before this.
229 Kyle Brindza, KickerBrindza is just okay - I really would want the top kicker Manton. Manton is excellent
and wouln't need to be coached up so much, and could easily start.
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"Risky QB"
Beside a few drafted number 1 overall, what QB isn't "risky" in a draft? Taking a step back, what player isn't "risky" in a NFL draft.
I think Marriota is going to be a star in this league. I can see it. He's got it all. I've labeled him Andrew Luck 2.0. Big, tall, strong, intelligent, fast as hell, good arm, not a "me" player, Film room junkie, a leader, not a socialite idiot and have that 'love' for the game. Got the face and look of a franchise player.
What is there NOT to like?
Then again, i'm a Brown's fan and guess what...Star QB + Browns franchise just don't mix.
"Risky QB"
Beside a few drafted number 1 overall, what QB isn't "risky" in a draft? Taking a step back, what player isn't "risky" in a NFL draft.
I think Marriota is going to be a star in this league. I can see it. He's got it all. I've labeled him Andrew Luck 2.0. Big, tall, strong, intelligent, fast as hell, good arm, not a "me" player, Film room junkie, a leader, not a socialite idiot and have that 'love' for the game. Got the face and look of a franchise player.
What is there NOT to like?
Then again, i'm a Brown's fan and guess what...Star QB + Browns franchise just don't mix.
Andrew Luck 2.0. This is getting absurd.
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um, yeah, no. don't want to be the next 'redskins'.
Mariota will at least try to be great- instead of doing SubWay commercials.
Picks for "certain" QBs are not traded.
Exactly.Titans praying for a sucker move on Draft Day.
"Risky QB"
Beside a few drafted number 1 overall, what QB isn't "risky" in a draft? Taking a step back, what player isn't "risky" in a NFL draft.
I think Marriota is going to be a star in this league. I can see it. He's got it all. I've labeled him Andrew Luck 2.0. Big, tall, strong, intelligent, fast as hell, good arm, not a "me" player, Film room junkie, a leader, not a socialite idiot and have that 'love' for the game. Got the face and look of a franchise player.
What is there NOT to like?
Then again, i'm a Brown's fan and guess what...Star QB + Browns franchise just don't mix.
Plenty not to like. A lousy performance against an NFL caliber OSU defense in the title game. A gimmick offense that NFL teams don't use. Accuracy issues.
Um- it's risk VS reward. the Titans taking MM @ #2 is way less of a risk that the Browns betting the ranch on a weak hand. If this year was last year- with the Browns sitting at #4 overall- sure, the move up a couple of spots to take MM is way less of a risk- and I'd approve of the move. FYI- most sell the ranch to move up trades turn out very badly.
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I dont want to see a trade for a QB. We dont have a Andrew Luck in the 2015 NFL Draft and I think if we can get Shelton with the #12 and Maybe #19 Humphries or Collins i would be happy. If we Draft a QB i would Pick Grayson in 2nd or 3rd Round.
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Nope but I think rg3 had a lot more hype than Marcus Mariota the consolation prize in this quarterback Derby.
WSS
RG3 was a one-season overhyped combine champion who got overrated, very quickly.
Mariota would've been a 1st round pick if he would've declared last year. He has been one of the highest rated QBs for the past 3 seasons, and has a career 105-14 TD to INT ratio... Consolation...?
RG3 was a one-season overhyped combine champion who got overrated, very quickly.
Mariota would've been a 1st round pick if he would've declared last year. He has been one of the highest rated QBs for the past 3 seasons, has a career 105-14 TD to INT ratio... Consolation...?
Yeah so why is he rated below crablegs in nearly every outlet?
WSS
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Nope but I think rg3 had a lot more hype than Marcus Mariota the consolation prize in this quarterback Derby.
WSS
RG3 was a one-season overhyped combine champion who got overrated, very quickly.
Mariota would've been a 1st round pick if he would've declared last year. He has been one of the highest rated QBs for the past 3 seasons, and has a career 105-14 TD to INT ratio... Consolation...?
RG3 was a one-season overhyped combine champion who got overrated, very quickly.
Mariota would've been a 1st round pick if he would've declared last year. He has been one of the highest rated QBs for the past 3 seasons, and has a career 105-14 TD to INT ratio... Consolation...?
I agree.....Mariota has been on the horizon for a while now....and RGIII exploded outta nowhere after the combine....(kinda like Clowney and Russell did in preceding years).....
Yeah so why is he rated below crablegs in nearly every outlet?
WSS
Id say crablegs has been on the horizon the whole time too......not a recent climb at all....so, why not rate him tops?
Like Johnny, he won the Heisman as a Freshman(cept he won the championship too) and he's been a top prospect ever since....
so, they both seem to have the college pedigree you'd hope for... and they're not hyped just because of a single season or some combine numbers....
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RG3 was a one-season overhyped combine champion who got overrated, very quickly.
Mariota would've been a 1st round pick if he would've declared last year. He has been one of the highest rated QBs for the past 3 seasons, and has a career 105-14 TD to INT ratio... Consolation...?
I agree.....Mariota has been on the horizon for a while now....and RGIII exploded outta nowhere after the combine....(kinda like Clowney and Russell did in preceding years).....
Yeah so why is he rated below crablegs in nearly every outlet?
WSS
Id say crablegs has been on the horizon the whole time too......not a recent climb at all....so, why not rate him tops?
Like Johnny, he won the Heisman as a Freshman(cept he won the championship too) and he's been a top prospect ever since....
so, they both seem to have the college pedigree you'd hope for... and they're not hyped just because of a single season or some combine numbers....
I agree.....Mariota has been on the horizon for a while now....and RGIII exploded outta nowhere after the combine....(kinda like Clowney and Russell did in preceding years).....
RG3 won the Heisman and was a consensus top-3 pick throughout most of his final season at Baylor. Definitely did not "explode outta nowhere".
Clowney was being talked about as a first overall pick a full season before he even declared for the draft. I think you're misremembering some things.
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I agree.....Mariota has been on the horizon for a while now....and RGIII exploded outta nowhere after the combine....(kinda like Clowney and Russell did in preceding years).....
RG3 won the Heisman and was a consensus top-3 pick throughout most of his final season at Baylor. Definitely did not "explode outta nowhere".
Clowney was being talked about as a first overall pick a full season before he even declared for the draft. I think you're misremembering some things.
RG3 won the Heisman and was a consensus top-3 pick throughout most of his final season at Baylor. Definitely did not "explode outta nowhere".
Clowney was being talked about as a first overall pick a full season before he even declared for the draft. I think you're misremembering some things.
ok...fair enough. My memory could be clouded on that....and Ill agree they were in the discussion as top prospects well before the combine....but lets agree that they went to new heights once they ran a 40 and did some drills at the combine.....
Clowney went from a good 1st round prospect to "the best prospect everrrrrrrr"(according to some)......and RGIII did kind of the same thing......going from possible first rounder to "trade our whole draft to get him" type of guy......
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While interesting, I don't see why past QB's taken at #2 have any influence on future QB's taken at #2.
While interesting, I don't see why past QB's taken at #2 have any influence on future QB's taken at #2.
Its just historical perspective. Certainly it has no effect on the specific player....but historically/statistically it IS apparent that #2 has a much lower success average than #1
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"Risky QB"
Beside a few drafted number 1 overall, what QB isn't "risky" in a draft? Taking a step back, what player isn't "risky" in a NFL draft.
I think Marriota is going to be a star in this league. I can see it. He's got it all. I've labeled him Andrew Luck 2.0. Big, tall, strong, intelligent, fast as hell, good arm, not a "me" player, Film room junkie, a leader, not a socialite idiot and have that 'love' for the game. Got the face and look of a franchise player.
What is there NOT to like?
Then again, i'm a Brown's fan and guess what...Star QB + Browns franchise just don't mix.
Andrew Luck 2.0. This is getting absurd.
Andrew Luck 2.0. This is getting absurd.
Not that I agree with the comparison, but it's not the first time I have seen it. Physically they are very similar. Head and "fire" are where my questions lie.
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But Luck's arm was far, far superior and he came from a pro-style offense. He was a much safer pick.
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tick tock.
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