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  • Football mocks 2 months out from the draft are usually even too far ahead. I enjoy a certain degree of speculation, but good lord... not this.

  • Oh, you stop that. No way we're drafting top without a huge amount of injuries on both sides.

  • What these fucking idiots do is to look at just one position on a team....in this case the most important, QB, and think that the entire team is going to be as bad as their worst position.

    So, while the adage, a team is only as strong as its weakest link may be right in many cases, this is a 22 man game.

    The Browns, in my view, could in fact be exceedingly strong at every one of those 22 positions except 1 or 2.

    And QB, yes, is one of them. But if any of these prognosticators, or any of their opponents think the Browns are going to be a weak team because they have a deficiency at that one position, they have another think coming.

    (actually, I hope they do keep thinking that...because when the Browns deliver a Mike Tyson like blow to their head or gut, those other guys are not going to get up off the canvas)

  • Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

    Cook

    58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
    59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
    Manziel
    69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
    68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
    Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.
  • Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

    Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

  • Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

    Cook

    58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
    59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
    Manziel
    69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
    68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
    Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

    Cook

    58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
    59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
    Manziel
    69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
    68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
    Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.

    This, boys and girls - is why you don't look at stats as your ONLY base to an argument in certain scenarios.

  • Does this mouth breathing mongoloid seriously think this is the worst Browns team since 2000 (the last time the Browns selected #1 overall)?

  • The Patriots will tank the season after the first four losses and then realize come the draft they don't have their first rounder! HA!

  • Speculation

    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

    An aging Carson Palmer

    Geno or Bryce Petty

    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

    Nick Foles

    Mariota on a bad team

    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

  • Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

  • Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    manziel won't see the field this year unless it's a let's see what he can do NOW at game 14 when we hit the wall.

    i don't see the tampa bay mccown showing up with our OL. i see the chicago 2013 showing up which means manziel might be irrelevant unless injury.

    but you can dream on, just like you do with TR and mccoy.

  • Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    Goddamn PoG - after reading your post I seriously felt it move. Keep on keepin' on my friend!

  • My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

    1. Cardale Jones

    2. Connor Cook

    3. Jared Goff

    4. Gunner Kiel

    5. Christian Hackenberg

  • My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

    1. Cardale Jones

    2. Connor Cook

    3. Jared Goff

    4. Gunner Kiel

    5. Christian Hackenberg

    @walterwhite said:

    My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

    1. Cardale Jones

    2. Connor Cook

    3. Jared Goff

    4. Gunner Kiel

    5. Christian Hackenberg

    At this point in time, ranking Cardale Jones #1 on this list is a bit premature. If I was GM for the Browns there's no way I'd draft him after only seeing him play three games.

  • Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

    Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

    @wargograw said:

    Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

    Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

    Right, useless. The most prolific QBs ever were like Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan.....who did diddley in the pros.

  • Speculation

    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

    An aging Carson Palmer

    Geno or Bryce Petty

    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

    Nick Foles

    Mariota on a bad team

    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

    @opal312 said:

    Speculation

    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

    An aging Carson Palmer

    Geno or Bryce Petty

    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

    Nick Foles

    Mariota on a bad team

    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

    Nick Foles is a good QB imo. But I understand what you are saying: While the Browns may not have a good QB situation, there may in fact be teams that are no better or worse.

  • Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    How was your trip to Guyana......because clearly you have been drinking the Kool-Aid.

  • I love how walterfootball based it's analysis on the premise that TB sucked because of McCown exclusively. Yet with the "best" qb in the draft to replace McCown, they have the bucs picking 6th and immediately mentions they need help at Oline. Brilliant stuff.

  • I'll be interested to see how Conner Cook progresses this year-the guy has all the tools you want and looked pretty good overall but wasn't quite there last year.

    I'm hoping that's a moot point though when Manziel tears up this league-right, anyone?...