2016 NFL Mock....look who has the first pick ....
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Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.
Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.
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Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.
Cook
58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptionsManziel69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 intsAdd in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.
Cook
58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptionsManziel69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 intsAdd in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.This, boys and girls - is why you don't look at stats as your ONLY base to an argument in certain scenarios.
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Does this mouth breathing mongoloid seriously think this is the worst Browns team since 2000 (the last time the Browns selected #1 overall)?
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Speculation
If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?
Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:
An aging Carson Palmer
Geno or Bryce Petty
Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel
Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries
Nick Foles
Mariota on a bad team
Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!
Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!
manziel won't see the field this year unless it's a let's see what he can do NOW at game 14 when we hit the wall.
i don't see the tampa bay mccown showing up with our OL. i see the chicago 2013 showing up which means manziel might be irrelevant unless injury.
but you can dream on, just like you do with TR and mccoy.
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Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!
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My top 5 QB prospects in no order:
1. Cardale Jones
2. Connor Cook
3. Jared Goff
4. Gunner Kiel
5. Christian Hackenberg
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My top 5 QB prospects in no order:
1. Cardale Jones
2. Connor Cook
3. Jared Goff
4. Gunner Kiel
5. Christian Hackenberg
My top 5 QB prospects in no order:
1. Cardale Jones
2. Connor Cook
3. Jared Goff
4. Gunner Kiel
5. Christian Hackenberg
At this point in time, ranking Cardale Jones #1 on this list is a bit premature. If I was GM for the Browns there's no way I'd draft him after only seeing him play three games.
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Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.
Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.
Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.
Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.
Right, useless. The most prolific QBs ever were like Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan.....who did diddley in the pros.
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Speculation
If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?
Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:
An aging Carson Palmer
Geno or Bryce Petty
Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel
Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries
Nick Foles
Mariota on a bad team
Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game
Speculation
If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?
Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:
An aging Carson Palmer
Geno or Bryce Petty
Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel
Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries
Nick Foles
Mariota on a bad team
Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game
Nick Foles is a good QB imo. But I understand what you are saying: While the Browns may not have a good QB situation, there may in fact be teams that are no better or worse.
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Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!
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I love how walterfootball based it's analysis on the premise that TB sucked because of McCown exclusively. Yet with the "best" qb in the draft to replace McCown, they have the bucs picking 6th and immediately mentions they need help at Oline. Brilliant stuff.
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I'll be interested to see how Conner Cook progresses this year-the guy has all the tools you want and looked pretty good overall but wasn't quite there last year.
I'm hoping that's a moot point though when Manziel tears up this league-right, anyone?...
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No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
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No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.
if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.
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No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.
if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.
i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.
if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.
Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.
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