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2016 NFL Mock....look who has the first pick ....

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  • Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    manziel won't see the field this year unless it's a let's see what he can do NOW at game 14 when we hit the wall.

    i don't see the tampa bay mccown showing up with our OL. i see the chicago 2013 showing up which means manziel might be irrelevant unless injury.

    but you can dream on, just like you do with TR and mccoy.

  • Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    Goddamn PoG - after reading your post I seriously felt it move. Keep on keepin' on my friend!

  • My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

    1. Cardale Jones

    2. Connor Cook

    3. Jared Goff

    4. Gunner Kiel

    5. Christian Hackenberg

  • My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

    1. Cardale Jones

    2. Connor Cook

    3. Jared Goff

    4. Gunner Kiel

    5. Christian Hackenberg

    @walterwhite said:

    My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

    1. Cardale Jones

    2. Connor Cook

    3. Jared Goff

    4. Gunner Kiel

    5. Christian Hackenberg

    At this point in time, ranking Cardale Jones #1 on this list is a bit premature. If I was GM for the Browns there's no way I'd draft him after only seeing him play three games.

  • Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

    Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

    @wargograw said:

    Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

    Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

    Right, useless. The most prolific QBs ever were like Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan.....who did diddley in the pros.

  • Speculation

    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

    An aging Carson Palmer

    Geno or Bryce Petty

    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

    Nick Foles

    Mariota on a bad team

    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

    @opal312 said:

    Speculation

    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

    An aging Carson Palmer

    Geno or Bryce Petty

    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

    Nick Foles

    Mariota on a bad team

    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

    Nick Foles is a good QB imo. But I understand what you are saying: While the Browns may not have a good QB situation, there may in fact be teams that are no better or worse.

  • Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

    How was your trip to Guyana......because clearly you have been drinking the Kool-Aid.

  • I love how walterfootball based it's analysis on the premise that TB sucked because of McCown exclusively. Yet with the "best" qb in the draft to replace McCown, they have the bucs picking 6th and immediately mentions they need help at Oline. Brilliant stuff.

  • I'll be interested to see how Conner Cook progresses this year-the guy has all the tools you want and looked pretty good overall but wasn't quite there last year.

    I'm hoping that's a moot point though when Manziel tears up this league-right, anyone?...

  • No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

  • No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

    @cambridgeho said:

    No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

    i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

    if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

  • No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

  • No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

    @mudfly said:

    No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

    any relation to walterwhite football?

  • @cambridgeho said:

    No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

    i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

    if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

    @miktoxic said:

    i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

    if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

    Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

  • @miktoxic said:

    i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

    if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

    Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

    @wargograw said:

    Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

    and you would be wrong sir.

  • Why? That's a 0-3 win season.

  • IMO what i'm seeing from haslam>farmer>pettine is a much more connected device than what i've seen in 20+ years. one bad year coming up (when everything is positive in the growth dept. across the board) might mean they do the fail season BUT i hardly doubt that.

    i say haslam knows that this is a tough biz and to find good people who have produced in the 2 years under his employ will not mean to all-of-a-sudden throw that all away cuz with a harder schedule we only win 5 games.

  • I love Bosa and would love to have him but QB is far more important to this franchise.

  • i'll wait to see all the info about rookie TC and TC before i get into predictions.

    'on paper' we're better than last year (mccown/hoyer debate withstanding).

    no injuries, everything ticking i can see us having the same or better record than last year which would make a lot of people sit up and recognize.

    so we pick a QB in the 2nd next year........won't be the end of the world, lol.

  • No way in hell Cook goes #1.