2016 NFL Mock....look who has the first pick ....
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My top 5 QB prospects in no order:
1. Cardale Jones
2. Connor Cook
3. Jared Goff
4. Gunner Kiel
5. Christian Hackenberg
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My top 5 QB prospects in no order:
1. Cardale Jones
2. Connor Cook
3. Jared Goff
4. Gunner Kiel
5. Christian Hackenberg
My top 5 QB prospects in no order:
1. Cardale Jones
2. Connor Cook
3. Jared Goff
4. Gunner Kiel
5. Christian Hackenberg
At this point in time, ranking Cardale Jones #1 on this list is a bit premature. If I was GM for the Browns there's no way I'd draft him after only seeing him play three games.
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Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.
Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.
Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.
Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.
Right, useless. The most prolific QBs ever were like Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan.....who did diddley in the pros.
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Speculation
If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?
Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:
An aging Carson Palmer
Geno or Bryce Petty
Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel
Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries
Nick Foles
Mariota on a bad team
Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game
Speculation
If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?
Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:
An aging Carson Palmer
Geno or Bryce Petty
Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel
Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries
Nick Foles
Mariota on a bad team
Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game
Nick Foles is a good QB imo. But I understand what you are saying: While the Browns may not have a good QB situation, there may in fact be teams that are no better or worse.
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Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!
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I love how walterfootball based it's analysis on the premise that TB sucked because of McCown exclusively. Yet with the "best" qb in the draft to replace McCown, they have the bucs picking 6th and immediately mentions they need help at Oline. Brilliant stuff.
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I'll be interested to see how Conner Cook progresses this year-the guy has all the tools you want and looked pretty good overall but wasn't quite there last year.
I'm hoping that's a moot point though when Manziel tears up this league-right, anyone?...
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No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
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No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.
if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.
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No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.
i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.
if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.
i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.
if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.
Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.
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i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.
if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.
Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.
Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.
and you would be wrong sir.
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IMO what i'm seeing from haslam>farmer>pettine is a much more connected device than what i've seen in 20+ years. one bad year coming up (when everything is positive in the growth dept. across the board) might mean they do the fail season BUT i hardly doubt that.
i say haslam knows that this is a tough biz and to find good people who have produced in the 2 years under his employ will not mean to all-of-a-sudden throw that all away cuz with a harder schedule we only win 5 games.
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I love Bosa and would love to have him but QB is far more important to this franchise.
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i'll wait to see all the info about rookie TC and TC before i get into predictions.
'on paper' we're better than last year (mccown/hoyer debate withstanding).
no injuries, everything ticking i can see us having the same or better record than last year which would make a lot of people sit up and recognize.
so we pick a QB in the 2nd next year........won't be the end of the world, lol.
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No way in hell Cook goes #1.
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NO TEAM has the 1st pick in 2016 yet......PERIOD!!!
Mike
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Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.
Cook
58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptionsManziel69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 intsAdd in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.
Cook
58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
Manziel
69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.
Cook is also 6'4", 220 lb. and, at the time of being drafted, will have had a wealth of experience in a Pro-style offense.
Couple that with his nearly immaculate intangibles and you can see why he's not only favored by most over Manziel, but every QB in his draft class as well.
If Cook continues his progression, he could be a very, very good NFL QB. If Cook plateaus this season, I'd say he's still at least a serviceable starter/absolutely exceptional backup.
I'm very intrigued by Cook at this point in time. To compare him to this year's class, he's basically a taller, slightly more athletic Garrett Grayson who's played against stiffer competition. Considering as my only knocks against Grayson were his athleticism and his competition, you can see why I, at least, seem to like Cook.
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