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  • htownbrown htownbrownH Reacting Well Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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    I love how walterfootball based it's analysis on the premise that TB sucked because of McCown exclusively. Yet with the "best" qb in the draft to replace McCown, they have the bucs picking 6th and immediately mentions they need help at Oline. Brilliant stuff.

    “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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      I'll be interested to see how Conner Cook progresses this year-the guy has all the tools you want and looked pretty good overall but wasn't quite there last year.

      I'm hoping that's a moot point though when Manziel tears up this league-right, anyone?...

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        cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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        No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

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          No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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          @cambridgeho said:

          No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

          i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

          if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

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            MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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            No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

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            • MudflyM Mudfly

              No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

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              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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              @mudfly said:

              No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

              any relation to walterwhite football?

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                @cambridgeho said:

                No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

                i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

                if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

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                W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                @miktoxic said:

                i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

                if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

                Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

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                  @miktoxic said:

                  i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

                  if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

                  Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

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                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                  @wargograw said:

                  Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

                  and you would be wrong sir.

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                    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                    Why? That's a 0-3 win season.

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                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                      IMO what i'm seeing from haslam>farmer>pettine is a much more connected device than what i've seen in 20+ years. one bad year coming up (when everything is positive in the growth dept. across the board) might mean they do the fail season BUT i hardly doubt that.

                      i say haslam knows that this is a tough biz and to find good people who have produced in the 2 years under his employ will not mean to all-of-a-sudden throw that all away cuz with a harder schedule we only win 5 games.

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                        WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                        I love Bosa and would love to have him but QB is far more important to this franchise.

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          i'll wait to see all the info about rookie TC and TC before i get into predictions.

                          'on paper' we're better than last year (mccown/hoyer debate withstanding).

                          no injuries, everything ticking i can see us having the same or better record than last year which would make a lot of people sit up and recognize.

                          so we pick a QB in the 2nd next year........won't be the end of the world, lol.

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                            B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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                            No way in hell Cook goes #1.

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                              Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                              NO TEAM has the 1st pick in 2016 yet......PERIOD!!!

                              Mike

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                                Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

                                Cook

                                58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
                                59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
                                Manziel
                                69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
                                68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
                                Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.
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                                Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                @texasag1969 said:

                                Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

                                Cook

                                58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions

                                59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions

                                Manziel

                                69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints

                                68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints

                                Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.

                                Cook is also 6'4", 220 lb. and, at the time of being drafted, will have had a wealth of experience in a Pro-style offense.

                                Couple that with his nearly immaculate intangibles and you can see why he's not only favored by most over Manziel, but every QB in his draft class as well.

                                If Cook continues his progression, he could be a very, very good NFL QB. If Cook plateaus this season, I'd say he's still at least a serviceable starter/absolutely exceptional backup.

                                I'm very intrigued by Cook at this point in time. To compare him to this year's class, he's basically a taller, slightly more athletic Garrett Grayson who's played against stiffer competition. Considering as my only knocks against Grayson were his athleticism and his competition, you can see why I, at least, seem to like Cook.

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                                  Why? That's a 0-3 win season.

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                                  Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                  @wargograw said:

                                  Why? That's a 0-3 win season.

                                  Pettine would likely be gone before Farmer. Farmer is probably given somewhat of a leash because his drafting and FA pickups have been both fiscally and physically solid.

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                                    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                                    The guy I think blows up this year and creeps up into 1st round consideration is Gunner Kiel.

                                    He has an absolute rocket and he's really accurate, also makes great reads.

                                    He ripped Ohio State apart for a good part of that game

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                                      http://walterfootball.com/draft2016charlie.php

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                                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                      @darren15 said:

                                      http://walterfootball.com/draft2016charlie.php

                                      F-U Walter. This is the same Bozo who said, and I quote "Three first round picks, and a second was the correct price to pay for RG III" You may now eat s**t Walter.

                                      @roycerolls said:

                                      Does this mouth breathing mongoloid seriously think this is the worst Browns team since 2000 (the last time the Browns selected #1 overall)?

                                      I don't see any way in hell the Browns are only going to win 2-3 games this year. The D will be far, far too good.

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                                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                        After Chud was given no weapons.. You best believe Farmer and Pettine must not Draft #1 in 2016 period..

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                                          @wargograw said:

                                          Why? That's a 0-3 win season.

                                          Pettine would likely be gone before Farmer. Farmer is probably given somewhat of a leash because his drafting and FA pickups have been both fiscally and physically solid.

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                                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                          Pettine would likely be gone before Farmer. Farmer is probably given somewhat of a leash because his drafting and FA pickups have been both fiscally and physically solid.

                                          With Textgate that Leash should be tight. Can't Act Dumb and Don't Know in that Position. Yes he can find talent, But now it's time to Win more Games with it. My hope 8-8 but with more Division Wins I love 10-6.. QB play will be a Big Key..

                                          Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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