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  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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    The Patriots will tank the season after the first four losses and then realize come the draft they don't have their first rounder! HA!

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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      Speculation

      If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

      Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

      An aging Carson Palmer

      Geno or Bryce Petty

      Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

      Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

      Nick Foles

      Mariota on a bad team

      Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

      DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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      • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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        PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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        Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

        The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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        • PoeticGP PoeticG

          Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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          @poeticg said:

          Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

          manziel won't see the field this year unless it's a let's see what he can do NOW at game 14 when we hit the wall.

          i don't see the tampa bay mccown showing up with our OL. i see the chicago 2013 showing up which means manziel might be irrelevant unless injury.

          but you can dream on, just like you do with TR and mccoy.

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          • PoeticGP PoeticG

            Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

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            SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by Suomi
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            @poeticg said:

            Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

            Goddamn PoG - after reading your post I seriously felt it move. Keep on keepin' on my friend!

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              WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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              My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

              1. Cardale Jones

              2. Connor Cook

              3. Jared Goff

              4. Gunner Kiel

              5. Christian Hackenberg

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              • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

                My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

                1. Cardale Jones

                2. Connor Cook

                3. Jared Goff

                4. Gunner Kiel

                5. Christian Hackenberg

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                SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by
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                @walterwhite said:

                My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

                1. Cardale Jones

                2. Connor Cook

                3. Jared Goff

                4. Gunner Kiel

                5. Christian Hackenberg

                At this point in time, ranking Cardale Jones #1 on this list is a bit premature. If I was GM for the Browns there's no way I'd draft him after only seeing him play three games.

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                  Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

                  Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @wargograw said:

                  Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

                  Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

                  Right, useless. The most prolific QBs ever were like Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan.....who did diddley in the pros.

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                  • Opal312O Opal312

                    Speculation

                    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

                    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

                    An aging Carson Palmer

                    Geno or Bryce Petty

                    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

                    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

                    Nick Foles

                    Mariota on a bad team

                    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @opal312 said:

                    Speculation

                    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

                    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

                    An aging Carson Palmer

                    Geno or Bryce Petty

                    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

                    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

                    Nick Foles

                    Mariota on a bad team

                    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

                    Nick Foles is a good QB imo. But I understand what you are saying: While the Browns may not have a good QB situation, there may in fact be teams that are no better or worse.

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                      Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @poeticg said:

                      Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

                      How was your trip to Guyana......because clearly you have been drinking the Kool-Aid.

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                        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                        I love how walterfootball based it's analysis on the premise that TB sucked because of McCown exclusively. Yet with the "best" qb in the draft to replace McCown, they have the bucs picking 6th and immediately mentions they need help at Oline. Brilliant stuff.

                        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                          I'll be interested to see how Conner Cook progresses this year-the guy has all the tools you want and looked pretty good overall but wasn't quite there last year.

                          I'm hoping that's a moot point though when Manziel tears up this league-right, anyone?...

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                            cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                            No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

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                              No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

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                              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                              @cambridgeho said:

                              No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

                              i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

                              if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

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                                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                                No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

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                                • MudflyM Mudfly

                                  No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

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                                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mudfly said:

                                  No worries.....it's Walter football.....they've never been right about anything.....

                                  any relation to walterwhite football?

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                                    @cambridgeho said:

                                    No way we would not take Bosa, if we did pick at number 1. Then get our qb in the 2nd.

                                    i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

                                    if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

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                                    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                                    @miktoxic said:

                                    i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

                                    if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

                                    Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

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                                      @miktoxic said:

                                      i don't think farmer would want the number one and try to trade back. is conner cook or cardale jones going to be worth a #1 overall?? i really doubt it. and even though i'm the biggest 'draft defense' guy there is, i think with all the additions the FO made to the Dline in the draft it'd be tough to go back to that trough with our first pick next year (and i'm willing to bet that we don't pick number 1). no, even if mccown works out it will depend on manziel. if he doesn't progress in all facets of his game i think farmer will think long and hard about the 'franchise' qb pick.

                                      if all works out this year as expected i see the browns drafting offensive weapons next year.

                                      Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

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                                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                      @wargograw said:

                                      Highly doubt Farmer is there if we're picking 1.

                                      and you would be wrong sir.

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                                        W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                                        Why? That's a 0-3 win season.

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                                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                          IMO what i'm seeing from haslam>farmer>pettine is a much more connected device than what i've seen in 20+ years. one bad year coming up (when everything is positive in the growth dept. across the board) might mean they do the fail season BUT i hardly doubt that.

                                          i say haslam knows that this is a tough biz and to find good people who have produced in the 2 years under his employ will not mean to all-of-a-sudden throw that all away cuz with a harder schedule we only win 5 games.

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